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Here's one for ya, Gardener.

Ever since the people of Gaza got "liberated", Israeli jets have flown into Gaza at supersonic speeds and low

altitudes to smash the windows of the homes of the "liberated ones".

Actually, it was ever since a soldier (Gilad Shalit) was kidnapped in a cross-border raid. HAMAS commando's entered Israel and attacked a patrol.

The idea was a form of experimental psychological warfare. It was WRONG; the Palestinians complained, and Israel quickly stopped doing it when they where made aware of the medical consequences. (breaking windows was only a part of it; it was cited as a factor in a number of problems, from miscarraiges to heart attacks).

Can you spell "Nazi"?

Certainly. Can you spell "Hamas" ?

Also, you know that no goods of any kind can reach Gaza without going thru Israel. Remember the blockade?

Not true. They can go through the Egyptian crossing. In principle, the only goods that are restricted by Israel are those with military or dual-use applications.

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Yes, in a war one fights with what is available. Against those who threaten - the combatants. In Israel that means the IDF and in a very limited number of cases the settler movement radicals. On the Palestinians side it means every male above the age of 12 has to be considered a combatant and now even some of the women for pity's sake! Several years have passed now since the 2nd intifada and it's exploding pizza parlors and buses - pieces of people being cleaned up from the roads and malls.

'and then', do you realize that all the bombings took place in OCCUPIED MANDATED Palestine?

The UN won't send in a coalition of forces to get them out...? then the ME operatives will form their OWN

coalition of forces to drive them out. Al Qeda, Hezbollah, Talibani, Muslim Brotherhood, Jihadists of all kinds.

For the Palestinians every Israeli is a target. Even infants. Yes, Israeli bombs kill women and children occasionally in air strikes during combat ops and that is regrettable but the Palestinians shoot indiscriminately even when they are in situations where they could be accurate. They recently fired an anti tank rocket into a big yellow school bus.

My point is that seeing either side as completely justified is pointless and real peace will require changing the minds of the younger generation. In this the Palestinians are doing the exact opposite of what must be done.

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The extremist settlers have proven a constant irritant for all parties and deliberately prevent the peace process and by extension the formation of the state of Palestine. They're another excuse for the police state of Israel that Americans seem to crave.

<SMILE>. yup.

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Actually, it was ever since a soldier (Gilad Shalit) was kidnapped in a cross-border raid. HAMAS commando's entered Israel and attacked a patrol.

The idea was a form of experimental psychological warfare. It was WRONG; the Palestinians complained, and Israel quickly stopped doing it when they where made aware of the medical consequences. (breaking windows was only a part of it; it was cited as a factor in a number of problems, from miscarraiges to heart attacks).

Certainly. Can you spell "Hamas" ?

Not true. They can go through the Egyptian crossing. In principle, the only goods that are restricted by Israel are those with military or dual-use applications.

"Then, to be fair,....", Shouldn't the Palestinians be able to restrict goods with military application going to Israel?

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'and then', do you realize that all the bombings took place in OCCUPIED MANDATED Palestine?

The UN won't send in a coalition of forces to get them out...? then the ME operatives will form their OWN

coalition of forces to drive them out. Al Qeda, Hezbollah, Talibani, Muslim Brotherhood, Jihadists of all kinds.

The so called west bank is disputed territory. Israel didn't "occupy" a single square foot of it until they won it in a war of aggression against themselves. Israel has offered since the end of that war to negotiate it's return. So far they have met only the three no's. As to your sick little fantasy I think you'll find a lot of people who agree partially with you. If you read Psalm 83 there is a seer/prophet named Asaph who was a contemporary of David who prayed that Israel's enemies would be utterly destroyed because they wanted to "make the name of Israel to be no longer known". They also wanted to take the pasture lands of God. The curious thing is that the people groups were listed and their modern day counterparts are EVERY neighbor of modern Israel AND the peoples who formed Hamas and Hezbollah. Some believe that Asaph's prayer is actually a prophecy since it seems to fit modern contexts so much. If so then all of these groups are going to come against Israel and are going to be trounced soundly. You heard it here first, Earl :)
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Change the statement to "The Extremists on both sides have proven.....", and I would wholeheartedly agree with you.

Okay then let's apply our policies proportionately to both sides and act like it.

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