psyche101 Posted March 7, 2014 #126 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Nice story Thanks, I liked it too, glad you enjoyed it, you should see how he ousted Peter Popoff! Despite all the people who do not like Randi, I believe he does a community service. It's not that I don't believe this guy's story, as much as it is not having enough real solid proof. Usually having more than one credible witness is a good start. Multiple observers always lend credibility to any story such as this one. Given the amount of people who have claimed to see UFOs and had them turn out to be misidentifications are impossible to number. I sure believe the Astronaut saw something, but I honestly doubt he refuses the official explanation. Astronauts do not keep these thing secret, one took a great anomalous photo from the ISS recently and asked what it was on Twitter. He is not the one making a big deal out of this, as usual, it is UFOlogy trying to push a new angle to sell. If we look at the article: The story has since gained significant interest among UFO believers who have argued over whether or not Chiao had witnessed something otherworldly. Skeptics have countered by suggesting that the lights could have been from a fishing boat on the ocean several hundred miles below. UFO believers aka here UFOlogists, are well known to make things up. The Roswell Aliens are a prime example, they did not exist until Stanton Friedman made them up. That is what they are doing here, they have looked for any small instance they can shoehorn an ET claim into. Lets face it, otherwise they would be sitting on their hands. Reports are not what they were in the 60's. The Astronaut says: "I'm skeptical of claims," said Chiao on the subject of extraterrestrial visitation. "I don't rule it out 100 percent. I have an open mind and I do believe there's other life in the universe." Which seems very benign to me, and does not support the UFOlogy assumption at all. ET Simply does not belong in this claim, it's just a zealous retelling of a known event. Legit UFO sightings do happen and NASA people are great witnesses but without anything to back this story up, a story is all we really have. UFO sightings do happen, but the only real connection between UFO's and ET is pop culture. "Astronaut claims" are basically Gordon Cooper. And he did not see anything in space. Ed MItchell says things happened just like NASA said they did, and he does not claim to be under any oath binding him, but if he was, he could say that much. Jim Oberg here know Stony Musgrave personally, and has asked him direct. As far as I know, the only one making actual claims if Cooper, who had a falling out with NASA when they dumped him as mission commander for Apollo 13, the list was them moved to 14, and Shepherd got the honor. It sounds like we have a decent case of sour grapes her as well to be honest. Not taking away from Cooper amazing accomplishments and tough persona, but he would honestly not be the first disgruntled employee who made waves for his ex employer. I would suggest that any such instance that you feel is legitimate ought to be brought forth for discussion for clarification. It's not only great getting the real story, but those tales of "the days" when we were crossing these frontiers is more than fascinating. We have Jim Oberg who has spoken to many of these peoples faces, it seems a golden opportunity for us to overlook the meandering tales spun in the media, and in some cases, like Stony Musgrave, we can even get to the horses mouth so to speak. What more could one ask? Great place this, because it has some really top notch people on here. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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