UM-Bot Posted March 15, 2014 #1 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Scientists have promised a groundbreaking announcement pertaining to the birth of the universe. Speculation is rife that a US team of physicists has detected signs of \"primordial gravitational waves\", an echo of the moment the universe came in to existence some 14 billion years ago. If this turns out to be the case then it will be one of the most important discoveries in physics for years. Read More: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/263820/major-astrophysics-discovery-to-be-revealed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustTerri Posted March 15, 2014 #2 Share Posted March 15, 2014 That's awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient astronaut Posted March 15, 2014 #3 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 15, 2014 #4 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Wow. Looking forward to their report(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyDontYouBeliEveMe Posted March 15, 2014 #5 Share Posted March 15, 2014 there goes GOD ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatsinausername Posted March 16, 2014 #6 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Everything's credible as long as it happened billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions of years ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico13 Posted March 16, 2014 #7 Share Posted March 16, 2014 this is great news! I knew in my heart Allah existed thank you thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 16, 2014 #8 Share Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) this is great news! I knew in my heart Allah existed thank you thank you! This has nothing to do with Allah. It's a cosmological finding. Edited March 16, 2014 by pallidin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Crane Feather Posted March 16, 2014 #9 Share Posted March 16, 2014 HMMMMMM I will have to look into it more, but why can ... should they be able to detect primordial gravitational waves before the can detect those that should be produced by things like black hole collision. If they its a new interpretation on ripples in COBR then I think that's interesting, but black hole.... nutron stars plus black holes....and all kinds of circumstances should produce gravitational waves. Maybe im not up on my math, but primordial gravitational waves...???????? It must be a new some kind of ripple in COBR. Ill check to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Crane Feather Posted March 16, 2014 #10 Share Posted March 16, 2014 HMMMMMM I will have to look into it more, but why can ... should they be able to detect primordial gravitational waves before the can detect those that should be produced by things like black hole collision. If they its a new interpretation on ripples in COBR then I think that's interesting, but black hole.... nutron stars plus black holes....and all kinds of circumstances should produce gravitational waves. Maybe im not up on my math, but primordial gravitational waves...???????? It must be a new some kind of ripple in COBR. Ill check to see. im sorry if you do not pay attention to the extremes that scientist go to to even detect these things. then its hard to understand my skepticism. My thought is that this is a new interpretation on ripples in cosmic back ground radiation. Its the only information we have from anything ...... primordial... note my comments. Im sitting with my 2 year old about to fall asleep and have looked up nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanthurion2 Posted March 16, 2014 #11 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted March 17, 2014 #12 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Here is a heads-up for an announcement to be made on Monday. http://www.universet...-been-detected/ Someone beat me to it. Never mind. Edited March 17, 2014 by sinewave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted March 17, 2014 #13 Share Posted March 17, 2014 This has nothing to do with Allah. It's a cosmological finding. Such of dumb comment sorry ..Allah, God, Buddha, Vishnu, Indra, Zeus, etc....are all cosmological entities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 17, 2014 #14 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Such of dumb comment sorry ..Allah, God, Buddha, Vishnu, Indra, Zeus, etc....are all cosmological entities. That's fine. All opinions are valued in the scope of conversation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted March 17, 2014 #15 Share Posted March 17, 2014 That's fine. All opinions are valued in the scope of conversation. Some just have less value than others.............. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted March 17, 2014 #16 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Two things to note here folks: there is an entire forum for Spirituality vs Skepticism discussion. There is plenty of room there to discuss whether cosmology is/isn't proof of God/Allah/The Flying Spaghetti Monster. Secondly: lets remember that for the next few hours at least this is all just speculation. It is only speculated that this is what is going to be announced, that speculation may be wide of the mark. Since we can't know for sure what is going to be announced we certainly can't know what evidence is going to be presented. As Spock might say, to question the validity of evidence when you don't know what that evidence is is illogical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted March 17, 2014 #17 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) It seems significant that the scientists involved were the source of the claim of a 'major discovery'. If they were being as careful and cautious as scientists are supposed to be, they must really have something big, and be very sure of it. This suggests strong evidence, and that their discovery has independent confirmation. The confirmation process would presumably have been going on quietly for some time. Edited March 17, 2014 by bison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted March 17, 2014 #18 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Some just have less value than others.............. we need all of them... how else does the idea you like stand out among the rest? Light becomes apparent... in darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibeliever Posted March 17, 2014 #19 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Am very interested. This is a BIG piece of the puzzle. Can't wait to hear what they have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted March 17, 2014 #20 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) It seems significant that the scientists involved were the source of the claim of a 'major discovery'. The problem is that what is considered a "major discovery" in a specialised field of science can seem minor or irrelevant to the population at large. Add to this the fact that the non-scientific press have got involved and we have sensationalism added. I have been on this site long enough to have seen plenty of these speculative threads on "major" discoveries. I have seen them talked up and up, only to see most of the participants say, "is that it?" at the end. To be fair this has not gone into the realms of pure fantasy like some of those previous threads have, but there is still the, fairly high, possibility that the actual announcement will seem an anti-climax to many. I don't want to sound like the harbinger of bad news and I hope to be proven wrong, but I don't like to see unrealistic expectations. The press does science no favours with stories like this. When they raise unrealistically high expectations it is not the journalists that face the back lash for printing highly speculative, fact dodging stories, it is the poor scientists making the announcement. In a short time all will be revealed. Then, when we have some actual facts rather than supposition, we will be able to comment in an informed way rather than relying on guess work. Edited March 17, 2014 by Waspie_Dwarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted March 17, 2014 #21 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Here it is. It's confirmed that the major discovery was the detection of gravitational waves providing strong support for cosmic inflation. The researchers spent several years checking the results, to make a better case for their discovery. http://www.space.com/25078-universe-inflation-gravitational-waves-discovery.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted March 17, 2014 #22 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Well the announcement has been made and for once the speculation was correct. I'm happy that my "doom and gloom" post proved to be unnecessary in this case. Unfortunately the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics is so busy at the moment that I can't get on there, but here is the New Scientist report: First glimpse of big bang ripples from universe's birth Waves in the very fabric of the cosmos are allowing us to peer further back in time than anyone thought possible, showing us what was happening in the first slivers of a second after the big bang. If confirmed, the discovery of these primordial waves will have rippling effects throughout science. It backs up key predictions for how the universe began and operates, and offers a glimmer of hope for tying together two foundational theories of modern physics. It might even net the discoverers a Nobel prize.The waves in question are called gravitational waves and are produced when a massive object accelerates through the fabric of space-time, causing ripples. They appear in Einstein's highly successful theory of general relativity, although they have never been directly detected.. Read more... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted March 17, 2014 #23 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Here it is. It's confirmed that the major discovery was the detection of gravitational waves providing strong support for cosmic inflation. To clarify: they have not DIRECTLY detected gravitational waves, but they have seen their tell-tale signatures. Edited to a add: In fact the article you linked to points out that it is inflation the have directly detected which provides the strong evidence for gravitational waves: Astronomers have found the first direct evidence of cosmic inflation, the theorized dramatic expansion of the universe that put the "bang" in the Big Bang 13.8 billion years ago, new research suggests.If it holds up, the landmark discovery — which also confirms the existence of hypothesized ripples in space-time known as gravitational waves Edited March 17, 2014 by Waspie_Dwarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted March 17, 2014 #24 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Here is an article on the new discovery from The NASA JPL http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-082 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00dfella Posted March 17, 2014 #25 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Ahh...my assumptions were correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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