JGirl Posted April 20, 2014 #76 Share Posted April 20, 2014 it's just the moon folks. geez 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkitecht Posted April 20, 2014 #77 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Actually, there has been very large Earthquakes all over the ring of fire area. (As well as in the middle of the U.S.A.)As for as the blood moon's,it get worse as they progress.(Or so i have read) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beany Posted April 20, 2014 #78 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) The A-B logic was already ignored (MH370 03MAR//Moon eclipse 15APR//Ferry 16APR) in the post that I responded to and that`s why I also used the word influenced for the B-A part as for the MH370/moon eclipse correlation an influence backward in time was assumed. You are correct saying that something always follow A even if not caused by A and that is exact the logic that I pictured with my example and to picture the illogicality of the inital post. Yes, your post made sense to me. Unfortunately, logic & common sense aren't always tools people use when it comes to their belief systems. Edited April 20, 2014 by Beany 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beany Posted April 20, 2014 #79 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Actually, there has been very large Earthquakes all over the ring of fire area. (As well as in the middle of the U.S.A.)As for as the blood moon's,it get worse as they progress.(Or so i have read) [media=] [/media] It's the Ring of Fire, there will always be more geological activity around it than in other areas. I'm wondering what you have read and what the sources are. Are they unbiased sources or ones that have an agenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkitecht Posted April 20, 2014 #80 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I really am not sure where i read that ...But no agenda. Not on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellig heilige Posted April 21, 2014 #81 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Euroninja, Provide a link that can substantiate your statement. As far as I know what you say has not been proven. But maybe I am wrong, show me. "Zechariah 9–14, often called Second Zechariah, contains within the text no datable references to specific events or individuals but most scholars give the text a date in the fifth century BCE. Second Zechariah, in the opinion of some scholars, appears to make use of the books of Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, the Deuteronomistic History, and the themes from First Zechariah. This has led some to believe that the writer(s) or editor(s) of Second Zechariah may have been a disciple of the prophet Zechariah. There are some scholars who go even further and divide Second Zechariah into Second Zechariah (9–11) and Third Zechariah (12–14) since each begins with a heading oracle".Zachariah 14 is work of fiction!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_zachariah Second Epistle of Peter is similar in nature. Why is 2 Peter important? It "explains that God has delayed the Second Coming of Christ so that more people will have the chance to reject evil and find salvation". 2 Peter is fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellig heilige Posted April 21, 2014 #82 Share Posted April 21, 2014 "As a result, many scholars suggest that chapters 9-14 of Zechariah were not written by Zechariah at all. There is very solid evidence to support this position".................................................... http://www.theology.edu/biblesurvey/zecharia.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacelizard667 Posted April 21, 2014 #83 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Holy Crap ! The moon has been doing this from the very dawn of time as a natural cycle even long before there were any humans on Earth to see it happen. If any particular secular group or race [but why name them] wants to point this out as a fearful sign....so what ? That doesn't mean a thing except for that people; fear can be generated and used as a means of keeping the herd dependent on what ever it's leaders decide to do next. It is a means of control and manipulation.....call it the politics of religion. There is nothing at all natural about the Bible so go figure. Edited April 21, 2014 by spacelizard667 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Censorship Posted April 21, 2014 #84 Share Posted April 21, 2014 When I was 8 years old I waited in fear for the end of the world as prophesied by some Christian folks. I faked being sick that day so I could die at home with my family, never said a word to anyone about it, kept the fear locked up inside me. I'm a quick learner, after that day, I never believed in that stuff again. That somewhat sounds like my childhood. That's why I'm a bit cynical and skeptical when it comes to some claimed predictions and prophecies. There might be something to some of the claims, but I proceed with caution. I don't reflexively dismiss each claim, but I don't reflexively embrace them, either. We can create all kinds of alleged links between events and "signs". Sometimes, it verges on pushing square pegs into round holes just to make things fit our claims. It doesn't matter if we use astronomy or numbers. We almost always can find "confirmation" if we look in enough places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted April 21, 2014 #85 Share Posted April 21, 2014 The best course is to reflexively dismiss supernatural claims. If one should turn out to be real, being supernatural there won't be anything you can do about it anyway. The Jews who took Jesus' advice and fled to the mountains were hunted down and killed anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogbin Posted April 21, 2014 #86 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Euroninja, I broke down Zechariah 14:1-4 as I know it to be. If you disagree just simply say so. For some reason (probably because you don't know what you're talking about) you have taken this conversation away from the meaning of the scripture to who wrote it. Agree to disagree on this one. 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted April 21, 2014 #87 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Euroninja, I broke down Zechariah 14:1-4 as I know it to be. If you disagree just simply say so. For some reason (probably because you don't know what you're talking about) you have taken this conversation away from the meaning of the scripture to who wrote it. Agree to disagree on this one. 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: What exactly has this ongoing dialogue to do with a moon eclipse??? Edited April 21, 2014 by toast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogbin Posted April 21, 2014 #88 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Toast, Ask Euroninja, I am just responding to what he his saying to me.. Edit: I am not creating rabit trails.. just following them, seeing where they lead. Goodtimes. Edited April 21, 2014 by Ogbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted April 21, 2014 #89 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I am just responding to what he his saying to me.. Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogbin Posted April 21, 2014 #90 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Toast, Do you have anything constructive to add to this conversation? Or do you just like to meddle? Edit: Maybe you should read our whole conversation before speaking. Edited April 21, 2014 by Ogbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted April 21, 2014 #91 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Do you have anything constructive to add to this conversation? 8 posts by you are related to bible citations, 5 of these are discussions about bible citations. 3 post placed by me were in relation to an astronomic event and were about logic in relation to this event and that`s constructive, isn`t it? Edit: Maybe you should read our whole conversation before speaking. No need for me to get into deeper as I`m not interrested in the object bible in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted April 21, 2014 #92 Share Posted April 21, 2014 This thread shows just how flexible prophecies and Portents are, doesn't it. The earth casts a shadow over the Moon, and that accounts for everything from the sinking of a ship off Korea to the destruction of Damascus to the Second Coming. Shall we try looking at it the other way? How many disasters, man-made and natural, wars and terrorist incidents, etc, have there been when there were no astronomical events of any note, and no matter how imaginative people may have been, they couldn't find anything in the Old Testament that could could be interpreted, even by using the most liberal dose of imagination, as foretelling? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellig heilige Posted April 21, 2014 #93 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Euroninja, I broke down Zechariah 14:1-4 as I know it to be. If you disagree just simply say so. For some reason (probably because you don't know what you're talking about) you have taken this conversation away from the meaning of the scripture to who wrote it. Agree to disagree on this one. 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: I'm making a point. You're following an "end of the world" prophesy based on a "not by a prophet" writing or chapter. Ch.14 is a wannabe. The author of book of revelation plagiarized Ch14 to write his scifi fantasy story with an avenging Jesus. A fiction within a fiction. Isn't Jesus about love??????????????????????????????? "Most modern critical scholars argue that 2 Timothy was not written by Paul but by an anonymous follower, after Paul's death in the First Century". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Censorship Posted April 22, 2014 #94 Share Posted April 22, 2014 This thread shows just how flexible prophecies and Portents are, doesn't it. The earth casts a shadow over the Moon, and that accounts for everything from the sinking of a ship off Korea to the destruction of Damascus to the Second Coming. Shall we try looking at it the other way? How many disasters, man-made and natural, wars and terrorist incidents, etc, have there been when there were no astronomical events of any note, and no matter how imaginative people may have been, they couldn't find anything in the Old Testament that could could be interpreted, even by using the most liberal dose of imagination, as foretelling? Those are excellent examples. If specific predictions and/or prophecies come to pass, that's one thing. If tenuous connections are used as evidence of successful prognostications, that's another thing. The former happens much less than the latter. Try this experiment. Pick a succession of eclipses that took place in the past. Look at the history, positive or negative, on those specific dates. Then, create a pattern that fits all of the days. For instance, you might find that there were major events in eastern Europe and western Asia on the dates in question. Compare the chances of those events taking place on those particular dates to the chances of the Blood Moon events taking place when they did/do. It might add a new perspective for all sides of the discussion. See how much cherry-picking takes place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient astronaut Posted April 22, 2014 #95 Share Posted April 22, 2014 How about a bloody Mary moon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nenaraz Posted April 22, 2014 #96 Share Posted April 22, 2014 So since all this blood moon nonsense popped up you bet people are talking about the end of the world. Not if you live next to the crazed mujaheddin. Not sure about the whole "end of the world", but these "guys" will kill you over the Blood Moon if their version of blood feud is justified by the astronomical data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Censorship Posted April 22, 2014 #97 Share Posted April 22, 2014 How about a bloody Mary moon? Be careful. That's how drunks get arrested for indecent exposure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient astronaut Posted April 22, 2014 #98 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Be careful. That's how drunks get arrested for indecent exposure. HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkitecht Posted April 22, 2014 #99 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Be careful. That's how drunks get arrested for indecent exposure. Naw yer thinkin' of Moonshine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Censorship Posted April 23, 2014 #100 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Naw yer thinkin' of Moonshine! I try not to think about it. I had a bad experience with whiskey one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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