A license to get on the internet is coming

[F3SS]

no one is really invisible on the net ~

Nobody should be foolish enough to believe they are but to use that as an argument to say what difference would an ID make is plain crazy. I know you're not, just saying.

[SHaYap]

Nobody should be foolish enough to believe they are but to use that as an argument to say what difference would an ID make is plain crazy. I know you're not, just saying.

It depends on who is in possession of the IDs and for what intentions really ~ identity thefts cases lately has shown that it is more than possible to manipulate real world identities quite effectively ~

[seeder]

That's fine with me, just letting everyone know the story is 3 years old and in 3 weeks there will be no internet license.

quote:

A few years back, the White House had a brilliant idea: Why not create a single, secure online ID that Americans could use to verify their identity across multiple websites, starting with local government services. The New York Timesdescribed it at the time as a “driver’s license for the internet.”

Sound convenient? It is. Sound scary? It is.

Next month, a pilot program of the “National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace” will begin in government agencies in two US states, to test out whether the pros of a federally verified cyber ID outweigh the cons.

The goal is to put to bed once and for all our current ineffective and tedious system of using passwords for online authentication, which itself was a cure for the even more ineffective and tedious process of walking into a brick-and-mortar building and presenting a human being with two forms of paper identification.

http://newswatch.us/the-white-house-wants-to-issue-you-an-online-id/#sthash.Y6fIr035.dpuf

[Archangel Oger]

Are You Ready for a Driver’s License for the Internet?

The White House is leading efforts for a new authentication system that would have users prove their identity with a single ID across the Web. And states are starting to pilot the system.

Such incarnations of online authentication technology are sprouting up in state government agencies around the country, led by a White House vision of a new, central form of identification, what some are calling “a driver’s license for the Internet.”

http://www.govtech.c...e-Internet.html

Oh you don't even know the whole story....Check this garbage over here in the states..

http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/28/technology/security/internet-explorer-bug/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security recommends that people ditch Internet Explorer until there's a patch -- or install special software in the meantime instead."

Right...LOL

and

States Quietly Gearing Up For Internet “Driver’s License”

http://newswatch.us/...h.cRscyDHb.dpuf

[andy4]

quote:

A few years back, the White House had a brilliant idea: Why not create a single, secure online ID that Americans could use to verify their identity across multiple websites, starting with local government services. The New York Timesdescribed it at the time as a “driver’s license for the internet.”

Sound convenient? It is. Sound scary? It is.

Next month, a pilot program of the “National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace” will begin in government agencies in two US states, to test out whether the pros of a federally verified cyber ID outweigh the cons.

The goal is to put to bed once and for all our current ineffective and tedious system of using passwords for online authentication, which itself was a cure for the even more ineffective and tedious process of walking into a brick-and-mortar building and presenting a human being with two forms of paper identification.

http://newswatch.us/the-white-house-wants-to-issue-you-an-online-id/#sthash.Y6fIr035.dpuf

Ok that's fair, but it still won't happen. How are try going to get everyone to abide by this? Vey time you start up an internet browser?

Nobody will like this idea and will see it as an invasion of privacy. However, I will remain neutral until i see how the test goes. And no, I'm not siding with the Gov. on this one.

[praetorian-legio XIII]

ID for this, ID for that, trouble if you don't have one or are not willing to produce it when requested by "authorities" but they figure you don't need one to vote. What a joke.

[Mr.United_Nations]

dont you pay for a licence for the internet anyway? with your service provider? and anyway your IP you cannot clock, whatever you do because IPs are tracked all the time

Edited April 29, 2014 by Yes_Man

[F3SS]

Wasn't somebody just screaming about this story being 3 years old and irrelevant?

Government to Test 'Identity Ecosystem' in Two States:: 'Sound scary? It Is'

An online program the White House is calling an "Identity Ecosystem" will be introduced in two states next month.

The concept involves a secure online ID that Americans could use to verify their identity across multiple websites, starting with local government services.

"Sound convenient? It is. Sound scary? It is," Motherboard reported.

The program — formally known as the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace — was introduced three years ago but was more or less placed on the back burner while National Security Agency concerns were stealing headlines.

Now that some of the public backlash has quelled, the system the New York Times described initially called the "driver’s license for the internet" is being reintroduced.

"The NSTIC program has been in (slow) motion for nearly three years, but now, at a time when the public’s trust in government is at an all time low, the National Institute of Standards and Technology is testing the program in Michigan and Pennsylvania," TechDirt reports.

More... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/06/government-to-test-identity-ecosystem-in-two-states-sound-scary-it-is/

Edited May 7, 2014 by F3SS

[F3SS]

Even if this is benign the headache of dozens of passwords and logins gives anyone who cares to a lot more of a challenge to find and access all of my accounts and information than a single login linked to everything. A government ID sounds good solely for government programs and site access but not for my email, my bank or UM.

From the previous link...

The White House’s NSTIC white paper includes some rather strange “envision it” examples (Image source: White House).

[Space Commander Travis]

Even if this is benign the headache of dozens of passwords and logins gives anyone who cares to a lot more of a challenge to find and access all of my accounts and information than a single login linked to everything. A government ID sounds good solely for government programs and site access but not for my email, my bank or UM.

From the previous link...

The White House's NSTIC white paper includes some rather strange "envision it" examples (Image source: White House).

Surely a rather obvious flaw with that utopian idea would be that, if Mary's password was obtained by people for suspicious ends, they'd be able to hack into absolutely everything, including her bank account, redefining her mortgage, and buying a Sweater.

[Yamato]

Thanks for sharing this, seeder. I can't believe I hadn't heard of this yet. That silence was deafening now that I know. Our Executive Branch has grown out of control, and this doesn't bode well for other countries either who are like to copy us.

It looks like the latest iteration of the National ID Card is going digital now and is being made to impact everyone on the internet....whoa...yep, still against it.

Don't feel quite as lonely anymore though. All the new outrage over this will be most welcome. Once the online taxation began and that genie was let out of the bottle, we're all probably going to be online "license" numbers in govt databases soon. Fed Gov feels as though it must get involved in the internet...there's too many illegals doing the jobs nobody else wants to do, there's too many cyber attacks from China. Al Gore invented it. If none of that BS works, they'll fear monger fifty million more Americans into supporting it with warnings of "terrorism".

We're done in this country, govt can do anything it damn near wants.

It's a shame the idea of the old fashioned National ID cards were so widely approved of by people. This is what they get for their acquiescence. As always, if something bad affects us personally, we're not going to like it. I just hope the uproar will be powerful enough to shoot this terrible idea down for a while. People from states where this is being piloted should write their leaders and stop this thing before it's too late.

[+and-then]

Thanks for sharing this, seeder. I can't believe I hadn't heard of this yet. That silence was deafening now that I know. Our Executive Branch has grown out of control, and this doesn't bode well for other countries either who are like to copy us.

It looks like the latest iteration of the National ID Card is going digital now and is being made to impact everyone on the internet....whoa...yep, still against it.

Don't feel quite as lonely anymore though. All the new outrage over this will be most welcome. Once the online taxation began and that genie was let out of the bottle, we're all probably going to be online "license" numbers in govt databases soon. Fed Gov feels as though it must get involved in the internet...there's too many illegals doing the jobs nobody else wants to do, there's too many cyber attacks from China. Al Gore invented it. If none of that BS works, they'll fear monger fifty million more Americans into supporting it with warnings of "terrorism".

We're done in this country, govt can do anything it damn near wants.

It's a shame the idea of the old fashioned National ID cards were so widely approved of by people. This is what they get for their acquiescence. As always, if something bad affects us personally, we're not going to like it. I just hope the uproar will be powerful enough to shoot this terrible idea down for a while. People from states where this is being piloted should write their leaders and stop this thing before it's too late.

I enjoy my time on the internet but I can safely say that the moment this becomes a requirement I will become completely self censoring. I will transact business if it is the only way for it to be done but that will be all I use it for. I'm beginning to think that America fell on 9-11 and we weren't even aware of it.

[Frank Merton]

American now has a national ID card although it is issued by the states. Try doing anything in the States without one or at least an identity card of the same sort. Of course I use my passport but I still found it best to get a American driver's license because of the idiots in the States who "don't accept" passports for ID and want something other than credit cards.

Vietnam censors its printed press that is in Vietnamese, but allows foreign magazines and newspapers and TV and movies and of course the internet. About the only thing they don't like is the anti-Communist Vietnam propaganda produced in Orange County, and I don't know if they are still making that stuff. I would add that they don't like porn but seem to make no particular effort to restrict its access on the internet.

[Space Commander Travis]

American now has a national ID card although it is issued by the states. Try doing anything in the States without one or at least an identity card of the same sort. Of course I use my passport but I still found it best to get a American driver's license because of the idiots in the States who "don't accept" passports for ID and want something other than credit cards.

Vietnam censors its printed press that is in Vietnamese, but allows foreign magazines and newspapers and TV and movies and of course the internet. About the only thing they don't like is the anti-Communist Vietnam propaganda produced in Orange County, and I don't know if they are still making that stuff. I would add that they don't like porn but seem to make no particular effort to restrict its access on the internet.

yes, and of course the fly anywhere you need ID, and even, I believe, to buy a train ticket on Amtrak, they even ask for ID there. And as the good battleship says above, no one seems to question this at all, and people can't seem to understand how people in other countries can't understand why everyone just seems to go along with it, and still call themselves "free".

[Frank Merton]

yes, and of course the fly anywhere you need ID, and even, I believe, to buy a train ticket on Amtrak, they even ask for ID there. And as the good battleship says above, no one seems to question this at all, and people can't seem to understand how people in other countries can't understand why everyone just seems to go along with it, and still call themselves "free".

Well everyone in other countries goes along with it because they are use to it. I don't see it nearly as much an infringement on freedom as a lot of things and it is an immense help to law enforcement to be able to demand ID and have its absence a grounds for arrest. The areas I think Americans should object to is their ability to buy pharmaceutical drugs, their ability to share so-called copyrighted material electronically, the their ability to practice law without a license, and hundreds of other limitations that have been imposed for reasons of limiting competition under the excuse of protecting the public. (I see now the auto dealers are working to prevent people from buying cars except through them).

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

And what's to stop people spoofing their IP address to another country like many already do to access things like Netflix?

And how the bullocks will it be put into place that it won't require such an ID for foreigners like me?

[Frank Merton]

It's technological warfare: they invent a way to block you, you find a way to circumvent that, they find a way to block your circumvention, and so on. The Chinese firewall only works with the technologically naive, but that is most of the population so they are happy and have ways to identify those who have gotten around their blocks (the most common being a "honey pot" -- an easy circumvention that unknown to you reports your transactions to whomever).

[spud the mackem]

i think America (the gov't) is becoming paranoid about security,how many gov't depts are there now, as soon as you step outside your home you are on C.C.T.V. and the people seem to accept this as normal,its the same in most western countries.At least they haven't got around to stopping you in the street and asking for I.D...yet