Bizarre rotating object pictured over London

[qxcontinuum]

Nice drone!

[psyche101]

Well we need to get to the truth do we not.

Then why are you posting?

[psyche101]

It's a baby Imperial Scout Drone...

We should get a rather unpleasant visit from the Empire shortly. Anybody know where I can get a lightsaber on the cheap?

I think you are not too far off the mark mate.

This is a new surveillance drone:

This is the 3-pound drone "Scout" being considered by law enforcement in Alameda County in California.

LINK - Surveillance drones could be coming to your hometown

This firefighting drone looks smashing too.

Edited May 1, 2014 by psyche101

[+DieChecker]

I think you are not too far off the mark mate.

This is a new surveillance drone:

This is the 3-pound drone "Scout" being considered by law enforcement in Alameda County in California.

LINK - Surveillance drones could be coming to your hometown

This firefighting drone looks smashing too.

The larger ones can be fixed up with a shotgun or pistol also. And maybe a badge....?

[psyche101]

The larger ones can be fixed up with a shotgun or pistol also. And maybe a badge....?

Actually, have you ever seen the collection of Short Stories titled Master of Science Fiction?

If not - look out for one of the episodes called Watchbird

[GoldenRabbit]

Looks to me Like Monkey Magic flying on his cloud

[Merc14]

I think zoser should be barred from putting "DYOR" in his posts from here on out since he obviously does none himself.

[:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR:]

sigh... more evidence of the cyclical posting style of zoser, nothing to contribute so tries a detour, Now..as you were informed the LAST time you posted that, it was a balloon. And then when I found the image of a very similar balloon, you cry photo-shop

I was really hoping it was this:

[JesseCuster]

Trouble with text is it can be written by any old wag.

Oh, that's going in the old mental database for future reference. Any sources consisting of text are troublesome because anyone can write text. You couldn't make this **** up.

[Brian Topp]

Zoser,

I am going with what i said a year ago..

No Zoser, Do you want me to bring up other threads of "skeptics" explaining very politely with details on why it is a not ufo/alien. My point is your over look peoples explanations and yes, people get frustrated when you don't even research your own claims.

Honestly Zoser, We just want you to start doing proper research on your proof before posting it here.

WTH, I am going to splurge with another quote.

Well, My fellow members did bring up valid points about zoser's evidence.

1. Stories, Yeah there many of them but they are just stories with amazing events. Unless, I, personally was there to witness the events, i will hold all stories with a molecule of halite since stories can be unintentionally/intentionally altered, lied about or just a prank.

2. blurry crappy photos/videos, seriously how is that evidence? You can speculate about it but you can't claim that a blurry picture is a the final evidence that changes every thing. real photos, i mean ones you can make out on, ones that were taken with proper cameras in HD with multiple angles.

3. Youtube videos, they are 99.9999% fake and the 0.0001% i never found yet.

4. I hate when people post of articles or old youtube videos that have been discussed and that Original Poster did not do ANY back ground research. If they did they did not check if it is proven a hoax.

Edited May 1, 2014 by Brian Topp

[scowl]

Oh, that's going in the old mental database for future reference. Any sources consisting of text are troublesome because anyone can write text. You couldn't make this **** up.

Ah Zoser believes that text is easily hoaxed but not photos! Oh yeah, it took me a whole hour to fake this crap.

[Catti-Brie]

Those are cool pictures. Like others have said, though, it looks like an "Air Swimmer." Here's a video of a Air Swimmer set free outside. This is the shark one, and the company also has a killer whale, which would explain the white section in the UFO photos.

[zoser]

Ah Zoser believes that text is easily hoaxed but not photos! Oh yeah, it took me a whole hour to fake this crap.

Testimony from dozens of witnesses seeing the same thing isn't though. That's what makes the Portugal object a good case. Image fakery is for kids.

[scowl]

Image fakery is for kids.

Then balloons and RC aircraft must be for adults.

[zoser]

Then balloons and RC aircraft must be for adults.

Those are for skeptics with weak arguments and lack of research. Think about it.

[seeder]

name='zoser' timestamp='1398970436' post='5156361']

That's what makes the Portugal object a good case. [/b]

You are on a thread about an alleged London UFO, stay on topic or be reported.

[zoser]

You are on a thread about an alleged London UFO, stay on topic or be reported.

It's my ball!

[JesseCuster]

Testimony from dozens of witnesses seeing the same thing isn't though. That's what makes the Portugal object a good case. Image fakery is for kids.

Is it recordings of the witnesses testimony or is it in text form? The problem with testimony written in text form is that anyone wag can write down testimony in text form and claim it's real. If you're going to be hyperskeptical when it suits you, you should at least be consistent and refuse to accept anything you find in text form if you actually believe there's something inherently untrustworthy about text. Of course if you think about it, there's nothing inherently untrustworthy about spoken words, typed words, YouTube videos, etc. and you probably just threw out the first objection that came to mind for the sake of dismissing something. It's not about the form something comes in, it's the author of the piece, the content, how it's written or presented, what evidence is presented, what links and sources are provided to back them up, how well their case is made and argued, etc. Seriously objecting to something in text because anyone can type text is not the argument you should be making if you hope to be taken seriously at all.

Have you got a link with the testimonies of dozens of people who saw the Portugal UFO? My Google skills are failing me and all I can find are websites saying that 25 or 50 people saw it but I can't actually find the testimonies you're talking about. A link would be appreciated.

Edited May 1, 2014 by JesseCuster

[zoser]

Is it recordings of the witnesses testimony or is it in text form? The problem with testimony written in text form is that anyone wag can write down testimony in text form and claim it's real. If you're going to be hyperskeptical when it suits you, you should at least be consistent and refuse to accept anything you find in text form if you actually believe there's something inherently untrustworthy about text. Of course if you think about it, there's nothing inherently untrustworthy about spoken words, typed words, YouTube videos, etc. and you probably just threw out the first objection that came to mind for the sake of dismissing something.

Have you got a link with the testimonies of dozens of people who saw the Portugal UFO? My Google skills are failing me and all I can find are websites saying that 25 or 50 people saw it but I can't actually find the testimonies you're talking about. A link would be appreciated.

Then do some research. Start with the link I gave you.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=265832&st=15#entry5155191

[seeder]

DYOR research JC! Like you didnt already.. like none of us ever do... classic statement from zoser when he has nothing more to add

[Junior Chubb]

DYOR research JC!

Sorry Seeder

[Space Commander Travis]

it's probably a publicity stunt for Ukip.

[JesseCuster]

Then do some research. Start with the link I gave you.

http://www.unexplain...15#entry5155191

A 45 minute video? Are you serious? At least summarise the video before expecting anyone to take up to an hour out of their time to watch it.

What is the video overall about? Is it specifically about the Portugal incident you're talking about? Are the eye-witness accounts I'm interested in there? How many? Does the video contains the "dozens" of matching eyewitness accounts you say exist for the Alfena incident?

Dumping links to long videos without explanation, summary, reason to watch it, etc. is intellectual laziness at its finest.

And here I'm going to explain why text is considered more valuable to people than video. Text can be scanned quickly to get an overall idea of the quality. Text articles online can be immediately scrolled to the end to see if there's a set of links or references to backup the article. The article itself can be scanned to see if links are contained within to relevant material for someone investigating an incident. A quick glance at the quality of the text can allow you to make a quick decision about whether it's worth your while reading it in detail. Etc. etc.

30, 45, 60 minute long videos however are things you have to commit your attention to for a considerable amount of your time in the hope that contained within is something worthy of your attention. Those of us who have experience with reading actual written articles pro- or con- various ideas vs. watching YouTube videos doing the same thing know that 9 times out of 10, the person who has put their argument forth in text form (albeit with relevant video and/or photographic evidence when it's useful and when it's discussing photos and video evidence) is more compelling than those who put what would be far more useful in text form, into video format.

There's a reason that reading books is, everything else being equal, is a far more useful method of self-education than watching YouTube (objections about video evidence noted and mentioned already).

[psyche101]

Testimony from dozens of witnesses seeing the same thing isn't though. That's what makes the Portugal object a good case. Image fakery is for kids.

Unless it does not agree with your personal ETH conclusion. You have directly denied testimony, so your credibility in this respect is in the toilet.

[psyche101]

It's my ball!

I suggest you take a gander at the rules.

And, no, we don't really need offtopic musings that are running through your head at any particular moment, keep those personal updates to yourself would you please.

Then do some research. Start with the link I gave you.

http://www.unexplain...15#entry5155191

Do yours, start with the pictures I posted.