Davros of Skaro Posted May 12, 2014 #51 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Otherwise, the Jews would have believed when they saw the miracles. Or it's a plot device kinda of like Cinderella's wicked step sisters keeping her from going to the Prince's Ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted May 13, 2014 #52 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I saw the movie on Sunday. Greg Kennear was excellent in the lead role and the story wasn't as smarmy as I expected it to be. It approaches the situation in a logical way. That is to say it shows how such a story being told by a child in a small rural community would impact the family and the town at large. I enjoyed it immensely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissionAtlantis Posted May 13, 2014 #53 Share Posted May 13, 2014 All speculative, he could have heard is parents talking about his dead sister, subconsciously picked up clues, and his dad is a preacher, of course the kid "went to heaven." Wait......maybe it is true. Please don't treat your "speculation" as fact. Sure, that's a possibility, but it's also possible the young tike really experienced all of that. You, despite your implied omniscience, don't know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissionAtlantis Posted May 13, 2014 #54 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Not necessarily. God revealed Himself to people when Jesus came, doing miracles for everyone to see. Faith is something beyond what can be physically sensed. Otherwise, the Jews would have believed when they saw the miracles. Very nicely put, Bluefinger. God has revealed Himself many times, when it became necessary or was expedient. Christ said that anyone, with sufficient faith, could move a mountain into the sea. Why didn't he do this? Because it would have served no divine purpose. Skeptics clamor for proof or evidence, but when they receive it, they scoff. Christ was very wise when he said not to caste our pearls before swine. He didn't say this to be mean, but to make the point that some people are so wrapped up in their Egos, that nothing will ever get to them. They are, as Christ said, "first" (egotistical) and will end up being "last" (cast out). But proof is unimportant to those who have Faith, because they already have their reward. Proof comes after Faith, never the other way around. Skeptics have a hard time with this, because they are too used to the mechanics of physical reality -- the continuity and commensurability of this space-time universe. Faith, creation, forgiveness, miracles, inspiration and the like are all discontinuous in nature. They break with physical continuity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafterman Posted May 13, 2014 #55 Share Posted May 13, 2014 e. Skeptics clamor for proof or evidence, but when they receive it, they scoff. Can you share with us some of this scoffed at proof and evidence? As to the rest of your post, I can sum it up as follows "Jesus doesn't want you to think too much". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesussaves Posted May 14, 2014 #56 Share Posted May 14, 2014 "It's an irrational excuse; "God doesnt reveal himself because that interfears with free will", then why did lucifer reject god? There's no reason why a god can't reveal itself in a non subjective superstitius psycholgically explaibable way." You do realize that nowhere in the bible states that Lucifer rejected God as the reason for his fall, right? That little tidbit was made famous by Milton's "paradise lost" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A rather obscure Bassoon Posted May 26, 2014 #57 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Can you share with us some of this scoffed at proof and evidence? As to the rest of your post, I can sum it up as follows "Jesus doesn't want you to think too much". I'd love to see some of this evidence...... Let's face it the religious faithful who loves this sort of stuff have come forth and handed over wads of cash to watch this movie. Mission accomplished. Maybe i'm just an old cynic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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