Thorvir Posted May 14, 2014 #51 Share Posted May 14, 2014 thats exactly why , i rarely say something lately in here, its always the same with those self proclaimed EXPERTS. Mainly because you lack the intellectual honesty and critical thinking required to sit and have a discussion as to what these things could be. And, I'm guessing you are using the term EXPERTS as some sort of derogatory phrase, which only proves my first point. I can perhaps give a nod to the Rod theory on this one, but as for anything else, the footage is very short and somewhat nondescript to really assign to UFO's. They could easily be UFO's but this footage is too poor to really prove anything. Not actual "rods" of course, because they aren't real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibeliever Posted May 14, 2014 #52 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) At first glance it was very interesting, but after backing up and looking several times it's clear that they are bugs just a few feet away from the camera. They have the illusion that they're coming from the tree line when in fact they just become visible to the camera once they cross into a background they stand out against. They are out of focus because the camera is focused on objects in the distance and they are relatively close. It was worth a second look though. It got my attention Edited May 14, 2014 by Calibeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyDontYouBeliEveMe Posted May 14, 2014 #53 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I am guessing it is because you cannot argue with said "experts" as you don't have the argumentation to do so - all you have, it seems, is the ability to lean back and complain that you can't argue. Or in other words, the "experts" seem to hold the high ground. Why not get into the game and do some research so you can actually engage in a debate? Cheers, Badeskov yes you are right , i m just way to lazy to do some research on most topics . but one day i will, if its really really worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyDontYouBeliEveMe Posted May 14, 2014 #54 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Mainly because you lack the intellectual honesty and critical thinking required to sit and have a discussion as to what these things could be. And, I'm guessing you are using the term EXPERTS as some sort of derogatory phrase, which only proves my first point. there you go again. there are over 7 billion people on this planet, everyone with their own experience and opinions. what is there to discus about? a bug ? a bird ? Ufo ? yes if we would do some REAL research we would properly find an answer , but i really doubt that anyone on this topic had done some real research about this video. instead they claim to know what it is 'bugs'! as for me , i don't give much though about it. but i really dislike it when people dare to claim to know what it is ! when they don't have a clue. ignorance. and thats why i put them into the category ''self proclaiming Experts'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted May 14, 2014 #55 Share Posted May 14, 2014 there you go again. there are over 7 billion people on this planet, everyone with their own experience and opinions. what is there to discus about? a bug ? a bird ? Ufo ? yes if we would do some REAL research we would properly find an answer , but i really doubt that anyone on this topic had done some real research about this video. instead they claim to know what it is 'bugs'! as for me , i don't give much though about it. but i really dislike it when people dare to claim to know what it is ! when they don't have a clue. ignorance. and thats why i put them into the category ''self proclaiming Experts'' You seem to be more obsessed about this than anyone else. Also, you keep referring to these "self-proclaimed experts", yet don't point them out. No one has claimed to be an expert, so it is very odd where you're coming up with this. Yes, real research has been done. If you would bother yourself to read the thread you can see that. The only ignorance being displayed here is yours. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted May 15, 2014 #56 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I am guessing it is because you cannot argue with said "experts" as you don't have the argumentation to do so - all you have, it seems, is the ability to lean back and complain that you can't argue. Or in other words, the "experts" seem to hold the high ground. Why not get into the game and do some research so you can actually engage in a debate? Cheers, Badeskov I would agree. Instead of complaining, make a few screen captures and play around with them in any of dozens of free editing programs. See what you can find to support your ideas. Maybe you'll see something that looks like the tail of an airplane, or a window, or an exhaust trail..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted May 15, 2014 #57 Share Posted May 15, 2014 yes you are right , i m just way to lazy to do some research on most topics . but one day i will, if its really really worth it! I have no idea if that is actually true or not, but you certainly give the impression that research is not your strong suit, and that you prefer the intellectually lazy approach of just complaining when seeing your beliefs questioned without adding anything to a debate. Why don't you prove me wrong? Show that you actually have the intellectual means to do research and hold your own in a debate - it can be a very educational experience. Try it. Just once. Cheers, Badeskov 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted May 15, 2014 #58 Share Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) there you go again. there are over 7 billion people on this planet, everyone with their own experience and opinions. what is there to discus about? a bug ? a bird ? Ufo ? yes if we would do some REAL research we would properly find an answer , but i really doubt that anyone on this topic had done some real research about this video. instead they claim to know what it is 'bugs'! as for me , i don't give much though about it. but i really dislike it when people dare to claim to know what it is ! when they don't have a clue. ignorance. and thats why i put them into the category ''self proclaiming Experts'' The people on this thread have seen numerous such videos, identified as bugs as that was filmed. Guess what, this looks exactly the same. Walks like a duck etc....you really need to get off those woo woo sites contaminating your brain. Cheers. Badeskov Edited May 15, 2014 by badeskov 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted May 15, 2014 #59 Share Posted May 15, 2014 uhhhh yea sure whatever you want ! i hope you are happy with your findings, BUGS . So you admit you WANT it to be something more exotic? That's usually how Aliens show up in any story. Are you aware of the complete Rod debunking efforts? Have you viewed the evidences? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scowl Posted May 15, 2014 #60 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Haven't some pro-UFO personalities here like zoser proclaimed themselves to be experts of the universe? Whenever someone proposes a mundane explanation their response is always something like "No, blurring from anti-gravity propulsion. Research it." or some other dismissive statement not supported by any known science. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortyStuff Posted May 16, 2014 #61 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Looks like a couple of hummingbirds to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufoscan Posted May 16, 2014 #62 Share Posted May 16, 2014 True, they ARE bugs. HOWEVER... they are bugs from OUTER SPACE ! They look blurry because they have their anti-gravity shields on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted May 17, 2014 #63 Share Posted May 17, 2014 True, they ARE bugs. HOWEVER... they are bugs from OUTER SPACE ! They look blurry because they have their anti-gravity shields on. Now you're channeling Zoser. Stop before you summon him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted May 17, 2014 #64 Share Posted May 17, 2014 The production crew didn't know they'd even filmed anything unusual until the footage had been reviewed. Read More: http://www.unexplain...ver-new-zealand I like these images and there have been a lot of them around recently. Some were captured on my camera some years ago. Just take a look at this short clip and you will see some similar images. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDIqaOPvFxg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted May 17, 2014 #65 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I like these images and there have been a lot of them around recently. Some were captured on my camera some years ago. Just take a look at this short clip and you will see some similar images. https://www.youtube....h?v=NDIqaOPvFxg Are you kidding? This video is PATHETIC. A flower? Why claim a flower is a UFO? A helicopter? This is clearly a helicopter. The one with the lights zipping back and forth could be a laser pointer for all we know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted May 18, 2014 #66 Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) True, they ARE bugs. HOWEVER... they are bugs from OUTER SPACE ! They look blurry because they have their anti-gravity shields on. Not likely. They emerge from the background behind the tree line. The camera would not pick up bugs from that distance. Two bugs? A mating pair perhaps flying in parallel? LOL. Click to enlarge. Edited May 18, 2014 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted May 18, 2014 #67 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Are you kidding? This video is PATHETIC. A flower? Why claim a flower is a UFO? The oddity here is that the image appeared only in one frame. Flowers don't suddenly disappear after one frame. See 0:44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDIqaOPvFxg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted May 18, 2014 #68 Share Posted May 18, 2014 The oddity here is that the image appeared only in one frame. Flowers don't suddenly disappear after one frame. See 0:44 https://www.youtube....h?v=NDIqaOPvFxg Do you have a link to the original video? That video only shows the one frame. Are we to just assume/believe that there are other frames without the flower? Plus look at where that "UFO" is located. It would have to be 3 inches across. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted May 18, 2014 #69 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Do you have a link to the original video? That video only shows the one frame. Are we to just assume/believe that there are other frames without the flower? Plus look at where that "UFO" is located. It would have to be 3 inches across. I saw it on another video (besides the one I linked you). BRB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted May 18, 2014 #70 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I saw it on another video (besides the one I linked you). BRB No couldn't locate it. There is another video showing the 3 frames, and it does indeed only appear on one. There is only the one link above for now. I'll probably stumble across it while browsing and I'll post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted May 19, 2014 #71 Share Posted May 19, 2014 No couldn't locate it. There is another video showing the 3 frames, and it does indeed only appear on one. There is only the one link above for now. I'll probably stumble across it while browsing and I'll post it. There should be an actual video. Otherwise if it is just photos, they could be in any order. Someone could have walked over and picked the "UFO", then taken more pics. Let me know if you find that video. But the other.... Is that not a helicopter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibeliever Posted May 19, 2014 #72 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Not likely. They emerge from the background behind the tree line. The camera would not pick up bugs from that distance. Two bugs? A mating pair perhaps flying in parallel? LOL. Click to enlarge. They don't emerge from the tree line. They emerge from the left of the camera just a few feet away. An optical illusion is created by the tree-line and the line of the bridge railing. It is out of focus because the objects are so close. The article says tree-line but that's just where they become visibly discernable from the background. I want to believe things are paranormal as much as the next guy, which is why I have to keep a clear and objective mind about these things. It is either two large bugs, or two small birds. The illusion that they are far up in the sky is just that, an illusion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted May 19, 2014 #73 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) They don't emerge from the tree line. They emerge from the left of the camera just a few feet away. An optical illusion is created by the tree-line and the line of the bridge railing. It is out of focus because the objects are so close. The article says tree-line but that's just where they become visibly discernable from the background. I want to believe things are paranormal as much as the next guy, which is why I have to keep a clear and objective mind about these things. It is either two large bugs, or two small birds. The illusion that they are far up in the sky is just that, an illusion. You seem so sure. I'll have to call you on that one. It's not convincing. Reason: Bugs don't just emerge. Edited May 19, 2014 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted May 19, 2014 #74 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) You seem so sure. I'll have to call you on that one. It's not convincing. Reason: Bugs don't just emerge. Calibeliever is correct. Go back and watch the video again and do some fast stop/starts just before the bugs show up at the tree line. a light shadow can be seen moving from lower left toward the upper right. I've taken some screen shots and added circles.... It is clear that whatever it is, is in FRONT of the trees at the very least. My best guess would be dragonflies. They like to fly down paved roads. They also like to chase each other. They also can reach very high speeds. Edited May 19, 2014 by DieChecker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted May 19, 2014 #75 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Calibeliever is correct. Go back and watch the video again and do some fast stop/starts just before the bugs show up at the tree line. a light shadow can be seen moving from lower left toward the upper right. I've taken some screen shots and added circles.... OK. BRB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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