Sakari Posted May 27, 2014 #26 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) deleted. Edited May 27, 2014 by Sakari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNYC Posted May 27, 2014 #27 Share Posted May 27, 2014 You guys are great at debunking stuff - so I don't even need to read the nonsense. When I see people here get excited about something, then I know it's potentially authentic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalDreamer Posted May 28, 2014 #28 Share Posted May 28, 2014 This is the second time we've had an article involving a ghost in a soccer match, there may be more to this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayde Posted May 28, 2014 #29 Share Posted May 28, 2014 This is the second time we've had such a "manifestation" at a football match, yes? Well, isn't it obvious? Being the World Cup is on this year, it looks like even those who have passed on are eager to go to see a game! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 28, 2014 #30 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I watched it 5 times, freeze framed it 3 times, if I wanted to take the time I would edit the video to copy/paste the shadow on the left, put a reverse or mirror image modifier on that section of video and then play it over the person who comes running into the frame from the right. When the player is running the shadow runs, when the player slows down the shadow slows down. Even more... freeze frame it at every step the shadow and player take, look at the shape of the legs and shoulders of the shadow, then look at the player entering the shot on the right. EXACT MATCH! Furthermore, notice how when the player is out of the camera shot the shadow looks very dark and you can make out everything, the closer the player gets to the center of the camera shot the thinner the shadow gets until the player is nearly in the center of the shot and the shadow is completely gone. Think about it, why would the shadow and the person be running exactly towards each other in a mirrored state. Even furthermore there are only 3 steps throughout the entire video that don't "match up" which is basically the same cause of the mirrored state ie. the player's orientation changing and shadow shape changes between those 3 orientation changes, which is his shoulders pivoting looking back and forth across the field. Also trust me I've been living with ghosts and entities my entire life, I am not just skeptic I'm analytical, that was not a ghost whatsoever, just a trick of a camera lens and the field lights that illuminate the field... You are definetly wrong about the movement. They are not stepping at the same time, one of them starts to skip or hop and the other does not. It's not a ghost though, like you seem to feel anyone saying it's not a camera reflection is implying, I like the explanation of its bleed over from another camera or replay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafterman Posted May 28, 2014 #31 Share Posted May 28, 2014 No big mystery - soccer is just so damned boring that folks die in the stands. Voila - ghosts. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicany Posted May 28, 2014 #32 Share Posted May 28, 2014 It's bigfoot. If thats bigfoot, he sure is transparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regeneratia Posted May 28, 2014 #33 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Having watched this I think it's an internal reflection in the camera. If you watch it follows the same movements at the same time as the player who seems to be running towards it. A technical fault and nothing more. That is what I also saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikko-kun Posted May 28, 2014 #34 Share Posted May 28, 2014 So did the people in the match see this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalDreamer Posted May 28, 2014 #35 Share Posted May 28, 2014 This is the second time we've had such a "manifestation" at a football match, yes? Well, isn't it obvious? Being the World Cup is on this year, it looks like even those who have passed on are eager to go to see a game! So you think the soccer ball was possessed or something? i fail to see the logic here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00dfella Posted May 29, 2014 #36 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I watched it 5 times, freeze framed it 3 times, if I wanted to take the time I would edit the video to copy/paste the shadow on the left, put a reverse or mirror image modifier on that section of video and then play it over the person who comes running into the frame from the right. When the player is running the shadow runs, when the player slows down the shadow slows down. Even more... freeze frame it at every step the shadow and player take, look at the shape of the legs and shoulders of the shadow, then look at the player entering the shot on the right. EXACT MATCH! Furthermore, notice how when the player is out of the camera shot the shadow looks very dark and you can make out everything, the closer the player gets to the center of the camera shot the thinner the shadow gets until the player is nearly in the center of the shot and the shadow is completely gone. Think about it, why would the shadow and the person be running exactly towards each other in a mirrored state. Even furthermore there are only 3 steps throughout the entire video that don't "match up" which is basically the same cause of the mirrored state ie. the player's orientation changing and shadow shape changes between those 3 orientation changes, which is his shoulders pivoting looking back and forth across the field. Also trust me I've been living with ghosts and entities my entire life, I am not just skeptic I'm analytical, that was not a ghost whatsoever, just a trick of a camera lens and the field lights that illuminate the field... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00dfella Posted May 29, 2014 #37 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I watched it 5 times, freeze framed it 3 times, if I wanted to take the time I would edit the video to copy/paste the shadow on the left, put a reverse or mirror image modifier on that section of video and then play it over the person who comes running into the frame from the right. When the player is running the shadow runs, when the player slows down the shadow slows down. Even more... freeze frame it at every step the shadow and player take, look at the shape of the legs and shoulders of the shadow, then look at the player entering the shot on the right. EXACT MATCH! Furthermore, notice how when the player is out of the camera shot the shadow looks very dark and you can make out everything, the closer the player gets to the center of the camera shot the thinner the shadow gets until the player is nearly in the center of the shot and the shadow is completely gone. Think about it, why would the shadow and the person be running exactly towards each other in a mirrored state. Even furthermore there are only 3 steps throughout the entire video that don't "match up" which is basically the same cause of the mirrored state ie. the player's orientation changing and shadow shape changes between those 3 orientation changes, which is his shoulders pivoting looking back and forth across the field. Also trust me I've been living with ghosts and entities my entire life, I am not just skeptic I'm analytical, that was not a ghost whatsoever, just a trick of a camera lens and the field lights that illuminate the field... Well, the angle is different and it maintains velocity. It is, however, the shadow of the roaming camera suspended above the pitch as it passes in front of a floodlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaraT Posted May 30, 2014 #38 Share Posted May 30, 2014 A shadow by any other name is...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Trinity Posted May 30, 2014 #39 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Well I am personally at a loss to offer an explanation for that. I had initially formed the opinion, however wrongly it may be that it was a reflection of some sort on the camera lens from the player who starts to run just as the shadow appears. I must admit having been baffled by it and reading the other posts on the subject that the explanation that made the most sense was the 'camera in front of floodlight' theory, if it isn't a reflective artifact of the running player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000kaos000 Posted June 12, 2014 #40 Share Posted June 12, 2014 maybe a ghost of a past streaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma_Acid Posted June 12, 2014 #41 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I should point out that I am a film maker who has worked for the bbc and oscar winning producer David Puttnam and IMO it's a bog standard reflection. Its only 9:10 and this is already the best reply of the day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjoist Posted June 15, 2014 #42 Share Posted June 15, 2014 My bet is on digital video artifact. I've seen too many of these, and they never turned up before the advent of digital video. (Just as "orbs" never occurred before digital still photography.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubbly_Dooright Posted June 18, 2014 #43 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I think it's a good eye, noticing how the shadow's movements seem to match one of the players. It does seem like that to me. I am also in agreement with some here, the movement of the shadow's doesn't entirely match up to that particular player. Close, but not entirely. I played the video over and over and noticed that the player in the yellow shirt hunched over just after coming into the shot, and the shadow didn't. The yellow shirted player also turned toward his left at the end, and the shadow didn't. Although, I'm not yet thinking this is a ghost, but a reflection. Could it be a remnant from previous shots? The shadow seems to move like the other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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