FlyingAngel Posted June 2, 2014 #26 Share Posted June 2, 2014 It's so disgusting that man doesn't get it. We seriously don't get it. They are sentient beings and have the right to their natural lives. It's not "man", it's not "we" and it's not "me" either. It's only small part among the scientists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 2, 2014 #27 Share Posted June 2, 2014 i hope if i'm trying to kill myself by just floating around until i drown that some dolphins will happen about and save me too. seriously. Up where you live it may be an orca so don't try it. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted June 2, 2014 #28 Share Posted June 2, 2014 So everyone (you, me, scientists, etc) agree that dolphins/orcas display an incredible amount of intelligence. Remind me again why we continue to lock sentient creatures in swimming pools and force them to perform tricks for our amusement? I bet in another 50 years, places like SeaWorld will be a strange part of our past. 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 2, 2014 #29 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I was watching a animal rescue show last month about sea world in Florida rescuing 2 deep water infant dolphins that had beached themselves with some kind of infection that affected their equilibrium. This particular breed is rarely seen by man. After nursing them back to health they took them about ten miles out to deep water to release them realizing that it was likely they wouldn't survive without a pod. Before they had even set up the rig to lower them into the water a pod of over 100 individuals surrounded the boat seemingly in anticipation of these dolphin pups release. I believe that somehow that we are unable to understand these dolphins knew exactly what was going on and were there to welcome home their long lost relatives. They are really amazing, seemingly magical creatures. (imho) 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 2, 2014 #30 Share Posted June 2, 2014 So everyone (you, me, scientists, etc) agree that dolphins/orcas display an incredible amount of intelligence. Remind me again why we continue to lock sentient creatures in swimming pools and force them to perform tricks for our amusement? I bet in another 50 years, places like SeaWorld will be a strange part of our past. No they won't, Seaworld does alot more than simply force animals to do tricks. They are great participants of research of the environment, biology of the sea, conservation, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted June 2, 2014 #31 Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Netflix the documentary "Blackfish". Complete expose' on the penny-pinching, feed-the-shareholders mentality that causes the animals much suffering. The employees are fed misinformation about the animals so nothing they witness registers as "abnormal behaviour". It's gained a surprising amount of traction - enough that SeaWorld has had to react several times to the allegations in the film. Edit to add-- Back to my first post, it's not SeaWorld specifically that I am questioning, it's the ethics that we should be revisiting in light of new information. It seems lately more information is coming to light regarding the real intelligence of several different species. Again, I think that begs the question "how smart does an animal have to be before keeping it caged is considered cruel"? Of course, caging an animal because you are trying to increase the numbers of an endangered species is a completely different matter. Edited June 2, 2014 by Dark_Grey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Chubb Posted June 2, 2014 #32 Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) I can't help feeling the day's of Sea World performances are numbered too... If I remember correctly there are/were two legal cases running, one to allow trainers back in the pools with the Killer Whales, while the other is to stop the Killer Whales being kept in captivity altogether. Despite enjoying a recent visit to Sea World and being wowed by the shows this kind of entertainment is from the past and needs to end, especially the Killer Whales. Edited June 2, 2014 by Junior Chubb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 2, 2014 #33 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I can't help feeling the day's of Sea World performances are numbered too... If I remember correctly there are/were two legal cases running, one to allow trainers back in the pools with the Killer Whales, while the other is to stop the Killer Whales being kept in captivity altogether. Despite enjoying a recent visit to Sea World and being wowed by the shows this kind of entertainment is from the past and needs to end, especially the Killer Whales. I'm in partial agreement, yet thank to marine biologists and marine vets being able to interact with and study various creatures of the sea this happened .And this is one of many stories of sea rescues, becoming more and more frequent, that without the close interaction with and understanding of the animals would never been possible, so there is a reverse side of the coin which may be to the benefit of species in the future. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Chubb Posted June 3, 2014 #34 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm in partial agreement, yet thank to marine biologists and marine vets being able to interact with and study various creatures of the sea this happened . And this is one of many stories of sea rescues, becoming more and more frequent, that without the close interaction with and understanding of the animals would never been possible, so there is a reverse side of the coin which may be to the benefit of species in the future. Great story, thanks for posting Almost a reverse of the story from the original article... 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 3, 2014 #35 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I followed it pretty closely when it was happening and thought it was cool how alpha pod just showed up outside the pen the first night she was there. She's had babies since too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libstaK Posted June 3, 2014 #36 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I was watching a animal rescue show last month about sea world in Florida rescuing 2 deep water infant dolphins that had beached themselves with some kind of infection that affected their equilibrium. This particular breed is rarely seen by man. After nursing them back to health they took them about ten miles out to deep water to release them realizing that it was likely they wouldn't survive without a pod. Before they had even set up the rig to lower them into the water a pod of over 100 individuals surrounded the boat seemingly in anticipation of these dolphin pups release. I believe that somehow that we are unable to understand these dolphins knew exactly what was going on and were there to welcome home their long lost relatives. They are really amazing, seemingly magical creatures. (imho) Now that story really made me tear up - what a beautiful scene, humanity bringing precious dolphin pups back to the dolphins. It makes you realize that we are so similar when it is our compassion that is working. Dolphins bring humans to their suffering "pup" and we bring pups back to their dolphins. I really want to hug a dolphin right now. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei4ever Posted August 4, 2014 #37 Share Posted August 4, 2014 This proves that dolphins are much genius than scientists lol..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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