Secretive Bilderberg Group to meet this week

[Stellar]

Interesting...

When it comes to their own privacy, people demand it, say its their right to not be spied on, regardless of whether it helps catch criminals and terrorists or not. Sacrificing your privacy for security is wrong!

When it comes to rich people meeting, people want to spy on them. How dare they hold meetings in private! They may or may not be plotting against you in those secret meetings! In this case, their privacy sure isn't worth your security!

And that is the crux of the matter. That is why "evil", as some people call it, exists in this world --- because people are hypocritical. A right is only viewed as a right when it applies to them. If it doesn't apply to them and may hurt them, it is no longer viewed as a right. People gain power and make decisions based on these views. Most people who yell at "evil government" or speak from some sort of moral high ground are no different in their views and attitudes than the people they speak out against... They're just oblivious to that similarity, and they are not in any position of power, meaning they can't implement their views. Instead, they cast their votes and elect someone who shares their views and beliefs, who then gets to a position of power and implements those very shared views and beliefs based on his new position of power --- which inevitably results in many of those who elected him calling him a liar and feeling as if they've betrayed them.

Some people here on this very forum demand that their privacy be respected, and that very view is shared among most. Those same people, however, go on to claim that the rich shouldn't be meeting in private, and we should spy on these private meetings --- another view widely shared. If one of these people were elected and became rich, they may very well carry over that very belief that their privacy should be respected, and when they attend these meetings in private, they now became the bad guy among all the people that agreed with them in the first place.

So what is it? You want to live in a capitalistic society? Well, those with money will have influence, thats how a capitalistic society works. You believe that privacy is a right that should be afforded to everyone? Then it would be wrong to stop those people with money (influence) from meeting together in private. Unless, of course, privacy is not a right but is a privilege --- but that opens up a whole new debate, as privileges have conditions attached, conditions that may not be agreed upon by all those involved.

Edited June 9, 2014 by Stellar

[ian hacktorp]

A Bilderberger has apparently decided to make his opening remarks at this year's meeting public. This is someone from a very old Dutch family who's roots go back to pre-British America. Many interesting terms used including "Illuminati" and "All-Seeing Eye". He even calls out "Bushs" and others.

Interesting times as such 'openness' is an entirely new behavior from an inner-circle Bilderberger. Are they worried??

At the recent Council on Foreign Relations speech in Brussels a few days ago, I warned that a “global population awareness,” was threatening a revolution towards their governments. - WILLIAM VAN DUYN

http://pentracks.com/blog/2014/05/william-c-van-duyns-opening-remarks-bilderberg-mtg-2014/

[DONTEATUS]

Come on Bilderberger and Babe Ruth are one in the Same, And THats right from the Asses mouth !. THe one that`s printed on the Three Dollar bill under the one eyed Out house painted in Laser ink. If you Hold it up to the Bright light of a dimly lit deep underground Alien Secret base and reflect it into a mirror, as one Stands on one head while all the blood runs out into a 8 pint container. Then just maybe ,just maybe You can Get the meaning of the Top secret plans of Said Babe-a-berger. He`s going to release All his built up frustration ! ITs Going to Flash once ever forty two mins, and then every forty two Hours,to infinty ! At which time His Massive brain the size of a Planet Will then Implode. And upon this Happening ! We all shall be Free to Go on as we are anyway !

[ian hacktorp]

...as one Stands on one head while all the blood runs out into a 8 pint container.

Clearly this can be done to excess...

[DONTEATUS]

Clearly this can be done to excess...

I will throw in a few Bucks to see it happen?

[lightly]

oh great, now everybody knows about the secret meeting! I wonder what those rascals do discuss... and scheme ?

[No Censorship]

oh great, now everybody knows about the secret meeting! I wonder what those rascals do discuss... and scheme ?

Check out Estulin's work. He's the go-to guy for all things Bilderberger.

[preacherman76]

Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberg Organization meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992 said the following as transcribed from a tape recording made by one of the Swiss delegates:

"Today American's would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."

Consolidation of power is what these guys are into. World government being the end game, under a unversal currency by the world bank.

Edited June 15, 2014 by preacherman76

[preacherman76]

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years."

He went on to explain:

"It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."

-- David Rockefeller, Speaking at the June, 1991 Bilderberger meeting in Baden, Germany (a meeting also attended by then-Governor Bill Clinton and by Dan Quayle

[preacherman76]

“I don’t think it’s true to say that we want to keep it [bilderberg] out [of the public consciousness], we never wanted to get it in. We don’t encourage people to mention it in the mainstream press because we don’t encourage idle speculation about what we do. …… We forbid individual attendees from giving press meetings at our conferences, and we do that not because we’re secrecy mad, but because we want to control the politicians who come.” Martin Taylor – Secretary General, Bilderberg – interviewed by Jon Ronson for the UK Channel 4 TV programme ‘Secret Rulers of the World’ transmitted 27Jun01

[Space Commander Travis]

I suppose it depends on whether you believe that a One World Government would necessarily be evil. Would it necessarily be worse than all this business of saluting Flags and "My nation is greater than your nation"? Would it necessarily lead to genocide and the enslavement of the Masses? Might, in fact, it be able to keep control of religious extremism and be able to stamp out radical sects of any particular religion before they could cause trouble? Not saying I necessarily think it would be one way or other , but why not think about these things rather than just knee-jerk horror?

[No Censorship]

Would it necessarily lead to genocide and the enslavement of the Masses? Might, in fact, it be able to keep control of religious extremism and be able to stamp out radical sects of any particular religion before they could cause trouble?

Who would decide that? It sounds like it could lead to yet more genocide and enslavement at worst, the odious oppression created from smug bigotry at best. A rose by any other name is just as sweet, and a totalitarian by any other name is just as rank. I'll stick with our First Amendment, which guarantees *our* non-violent religious liberties.

[preacherman76]

I suppose it depends on whether you believe that a One World Government would necessarily be evil. Would it necessarily be worse than all this business of saluting Flags and "My nation is greater than your nation"? Would it necessarily lead to genocide and the enslavement of the Masses? Might, in fact, it be able to keep control of religious extremism and be able to stamp out radical sects of any particular religion before they could cause trouble? Not saying I necessarily think it would be one way or other , but why not think about these things rather than just knee-jerk horror?

The people behind it have already long proven that they should never be in power over anything.

Edited June 16, 2014 by preacherman76

[Junior Chubb]

I suppose it depends on whether you believe that a One World Government would necessarily be evil. Would it necessarily be worse than all this business of saluting Flags and "My nation is greater than your nation"? Would it necessarily lead to genocide and the enslavement of the Masses? Might, in fact, it be able to keep control of religious extremism and be able to stamp out radical sects of any particular religion before they could cause trouble? Not saying I necessarily think it would be one way or other , but why not think about these things rather than just knee-jerk horror?

I see a One World Government as unavoidable more than anything else.

Throughout history as communications and travel have improved areas of control have grown. Regions have merged, whether by force or for mutual benefit and borders grow. IMO it is plain to see that eventually there will be a One World Government and it will not come from any secretive organisations, it will come from natural progression.

As you suggest it will not necessarily be something evil, but you will not be able to escape poor leadership/government by moving as you can today.

[jugoso]

I once had the pleasure of sitting in the Judges chambers with the defence and prosecuting attorney as they went through the docket for the day and basically decided the outcome of all the cases. I think Bilderberg is similar to this. The people in court thought thet were getting their due process but the outcome had already been decided.

[toyomotor]

I'm surprised that members treat the Bilderberg Group so lightly.

As far back as 1971, Gary Allen published a book entitled, "None Dare Call it Conspiracy". In the book he details the aims of a secretive international group of very high power people from industry, the media, governments and Armed Forces. The basic goal of the group was creation of a New World Order-a central international government which would control the whole world.

In effect, he described the Bilderberg Group precisely.

The Bilderbergs are linked to the also secretive Knights of Malta, and to the Illuminati, a Roman Catholic group which many will say does not exist. But it does!

It is also heavily linked to a US organisation;

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is an American nonprofit, nonpartisan membership organization, publisher, and think tank specializing in U.S. foreign policy and international affairs. The CFR is considered to be the nation's "most influential foreign-policy think tank".^[1] Its membership has included senior politicians, more than a dozen Secretaries of State, CIA directors, bankers, lawyers, professors, and senior media figures

]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations

All three of the above have a common goal, that being the New World Order.

The membership of these three organisations represent the most powerful figures in the world. The Rockerfeller family has long been associated with the Bilderbergs, and we don't need to question the power of that family, do we?

The reason that there has been no investigation into the Bilderbergs etc. is clear. The people who would authorise and drive any such investigation are members. The reason that the group receives no publicity is because those who control the media, are members.

There are never any minutes produced of the Bilderberg meetings, no written agenda-no records at all.

This is a topic worthy, imo, of much more detailed discussion.

Sources:

http://catholicarrog...tsocieties.html)

None dare Call it Conspiracy-by Gary Allen 1971 ISBN: 0899666612

Edited June 28, 2014 by toyomotor