Has ET already dismissed us as unintelligent?

[029b10]

Really, how minuscule do you think the object emitting light 13.2 billion light years is from earth relative to the light from a nuclear detonation from 150,000,000 light years away?

Edited June 9, 2014 by 029b10

[XenoFish]

Yes they might be wise to first send rovers or robotic drones or other types of flying chariots.

True perhaps. Maybe all these ufo's we've seen are scout ships and the aliens we've seen are not the real aliens. Just complex robots that serve to take detailed records of whatever life forms and species they find. Similar to what we do in the depths of the ocean. Abductions are just biological assessments seeing if they are compatible with us. To be honest I have no idea. But it sure is fun to make guess's.

[taniwha]

True perhaps. Maybe all these ufo's we've seen are scout ships and the aliens we've seen are not the real aliens. Just complex robots that serve to take detailed records of whatever life forms and species they find. Similar to what we do in the depths of the ocean. Abductions are just biological assessments seeing if they are compatible with us. To be honest I have no idea. But it sure is fun to make guess's.

Lol heres another fun thing to contemplate, some ETs might see things in xray. To these ET nothing can travel faster than the speed of xrays. And they possibly would appear invisible to us and at the same time they see right through us.

[XenoFish]

Nice. I've also like the idea of different types of aliens. One's of pure energy (consciousness). When they try to communicate with us we call it possession. That shadow people are aliens and even that the aliens might be us from the future. Who really knows. They could be something beyond our understanding. I think we keep our ideas on aliens in the human sense. Little gray/green men with fingers and toes having large heads. In my mind I see them as being adapted for their environment. Could even be plant like beings out there. In the vastness of space I hate to think we are alone. Perhaps every world has/had life at one point. In some shape or form.

[029b10]

What if humans on earth where genetically created from the DNA of these aliens beings, like they took a rib out of one of the aliens, of course after putting them to sleep with anesthesia because it would too painful to do while one was awake, and then made an incision in the side of the alien thereby removing the rib for DNA and sutured the wound and then using a process like cloning, leaving the primary codes in tact that form the image of having two arms, two legs, and basic structure of the alien body and thus thereby isolated, separated and reconfigured the genetic codes responsible for the traits or features such as hair type, eye color and such so that gave them the likeness of the aliens.

[taniwha]

Nice. I've also like the idea of different types of aliens. One's of pure energy (consciousness). When they try to communicate with us we call it possession. That shadow people are aliens and even that the aliens might be us from the future. Who really knows. They could be something beyond our understanding. I think we keep our ideas on aliens in the human sense. Little gray/green men with fingers and toes having large heads. In my mind I see them as being adapted for their environment. Could even be plant like beings out there. In the vastness of space I hate to think we are alone. Perhaps every world has/had life at one point. In some shape or form.

If there is no other life out there, our insignifcance would be a meaningless one. It is not desperate to say we are not alone considering that our solar system is now known to be one of many in the universe. Statistically its more likely an impossibility to say with certainty that we are alone. Im not discounting a race of beings who developed more circular attributes than us, for instance revolving legs, other wise known as wheels, and a powerful rotary pump for a heart. Maybe these ET also have rotating wings and for them space travel is a natural course of evolved flight. But who can say...

[taniwha]

What if humans on earth where genetically created from the DNA of these aliens beings, like they took a rib out of one of the aliens, of course after putting them to sleep with anesthesia because it would too painful to do while one was awake, and then made an incision in the side of the alien thereby removing the rib for DNA and sutured the wound and then using a process like cloning, leaving the primary codes in tact that form the image of having two arms, two legs, and basic structure of the alien body and thus thereby isolated, separated and reconfigured the genetic codes responsible for the traits or features such as hair type, eye color and such so that gave them the likeness of the aliens.

Maybe. But what would be he point of it? Why would aliens make us in their likeness? Does that imply we think like them too? And why leave us to solve the mystery ourselves and where are they now? Is this a failed experiment or a successful one or one that hasnt run its course?

[sinewave]

In a 2011 article from the NASA website, it claimed that the Hubble Telescope had observed light from an object over 13.2 billion light years away from earth.

Astronomers have pushed NASA's Hubble Space Telescope to its limits by finding what is likely to be the most distant object ever seen in the universe. The

object's light traveled 13.2 billion years to reach Hubble, roughly 150 million years longer than the previous record holder. The age of the universe is approximately 13.7 billion years.

Of course you probably already know how the scientist were able to tell the difference between the light which originated from the object 13.2 billion light years away and the light from the object 13.1 billion light years away.

However, according to the ancients, the King of Great- Pharaoh was the biological descendant of the God who made the Earth's Sun who abodes in his celestial garden in the heaven. A leading expert and researcher into the Ancients and ET's, Prof. Unoi Amarah suggests that based upon writings contained in the Book of Pharoah found within the secret chamber located in the belly of the Great Sphinx, it foretold that in days of last when the gentiles shall see the two great lights from the beginning of the universe, they shall be one. And the two shall be reveal the measure of cubits to the celestial dwelling place from which the throne of Pharaoh was sent, or rather the distance to the planet where the original Pharaoh descended from. And there was something else about the visitation, or the time the Great and Terrible day when the Great God of heaven shall return to upon the Greater Light to the earth dwelling in the lesser light to repay all those who dwell upon earth that hate him to their face.

While the difference in the distance between the light from the two farthest objects is 150,000,000 light years. Which would indicate that if true, that it would take ET 150,000,000 years to travel from the planet they abode upon to reach the earth traveling at the speed of light. Since, it was around 3 years ago that this light was observed from the farthest known distance in the Universe, then I feel sorry for those suckers that are here in 149, 999, 997 years from now.

But then again, if one looks closely at E=mc^2, and the reference in the Book of Pharoah regarding the return upon the Greater Light, if they can travel at the c² or rather the speed of light x speed of light, then it would only take 4.4 years to reach earth. Impossible to travel faster than the speed of light, maybe for the lesser, but not for the Greater. Yet didn't they say it was impossible to bend light?

But I wouldn't take any of this as being serious or anything more than speculation and conjecture, but this link offers a interesting perspective on the situation.

For some reason Google has never heard of the "leading researcher" called Prof. Unoi Amarah.

Who said it was impossible to bend light?

BTW We are genetically related to all other living things on earth suggesting a common origin. If aliens planted us here they also planted all other life here.

Edited June 9, 2014 by sinewave

[seeder]

What if humans on earth where genetically created from the DNA of these aliens beings, like they took a rib out of one of the aliens, of course after putting them to sleep with anesthesia because it would too painful to do while one was awake, and then made an incision in the side of the alien thereby removing the rib for DNA and sutured the wound and then using a process like cloning, leaving the primary codes in tact that form the image of having two arms, two legs, and basic structure of the alien body and thus thereby isolated, separated and reconfigured the genetic codes responsible for the traits or features such as hair type, eye color and such so that gave them the likeness of the aliens.

Do we need to put someone to sleep and cut a rib out to get their DNA? NO! A hair will do, or some saliva!! Besides, we are made in the image...of our ancestors, all the way back and up the evolutionary tree.

[scowl]

If there is no other life out there, our insignifcance would be a meaningless one. It is not desperate to say we are not alone considering that our solar system is now known to be one of many in the universe. Statistically its more likely an impossibility to say with certainty that we are alone.

Remove the qualifiers: it's impossible to say whether or not there is or isn't other life in the universe.

You can't use statistics because the likelihoods are completely unknown. We do not know how likely it is that any random planet could have life on it. There may be trillions of planets in the galaxy with no life on them.

[taniwha]

Remove the qualifiers: it's impossible to say whether or not there is or isn't other life in the universe.

You can't use statistics because the likelihoods are completely unknown. We do not know how likely it is that any random planet could have life on it. There may be trillions of planets in the galaxy with no life on them.

Surely not. A solar system qualifies any planet within it for a chance at life, however remote, we are proof of that.

Only if exo systems had not been discovered the likelihood of exo life would be approaching zero. We know at the very least an Earth type planet would have the best chance of supporting life. We now know these type of planet exist. And may even be common in a universal sense. I might be going out on a limb, but I think this means statistically at least that the chances of at the very least 1 other planet in the universe will contain life is approaching 99.9% likely.

[zoser]

Astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson has suggested that we may already be in a post alien contact era.

Read More: http://www.unexplain...s-unintelligent

Encouraging that such a person is thinking about the bigger picture.

Maybe he's read my TT thread on UM eh?

[sinewave]

Encouraging that such a person is thinking about the bigger picture.

Maybe he's read my TT thread on UM eh?

UM-bot misquoted Tyson on the subject line. He really said that his greatest fear is they did come and chose not to make contact. That in no way suggests he thinks they actually came here.

[zoser]

UM-bot misquoted Tyson on the subject line. He really said that his greatest fear is they did come and chose not to make contact. That in no way suggests he thinks they actually came here.

Of course.

[seeder]

UM-bot misquoted Tyson on the subject line. He really said that his greatest fear is they did come and chose not to make contact. That in no way suggests he thinks they actually came here.

Dont feel the need to explain, AS IF zoser has come back and actually read the whole 13 pages

[zoser]

UM-bot misquoted Tyson on the subject line. He really said that his greatest fear is they did come and chose not to make contact. That in no way suggests he thinks they actually came here.

No I chalk him up as a believer now:

"My great fear is that we've in fact been visited by intelligent aliens, but they chose not to make contact, on the conclusion that there's no sign of intelligent life on Earth," Tyson said.

Tyson also cited an example, explaining that no one understood radio waves 200 years ago but today, it is just common in present-day Earth.

"We were sending signals out before we were doing it on purpose," Tyson added. "Our early TV shows, like I Love Lucy and The Honeymooners and that sort of thing, Howdy-Doody. These are our cultural emissaries"

He said that the aliens will decode these about Earth's civilization from the radio which is the volume in the solar system. The radio contains human chatter and it is the message we emit.

http://www.techtimes...fe-on-earth.htm

Has NDGT moved camps?

What do you suppose he knows?

Edited June 9, 2014 by zoser

[S2F]

No I chalk him up as a believer now:

"My great fear is that we've in fact been visited by intelligent aliens, but they chose not to make contact, on the conclusion that there's no sign of intelligent life on Earth," Tyson said.

Tyson also cited an example, explaining that no one understood radio waves 200 years ago but today, it is just common in present-day Earth.

"We were sending signals out before we were doing it on purpose," Tyson added. "Our early TV shows, like I Love Lucy and The Honeymooners and that sort of thing, Howdy-Doody. These are our cultural emissaries"

He said that the aliens will decode these about Earth's civilization from the radio which is the volume in the solar system. The radio contains human chatter and it is the message we emit.

http://www.techtimes...fe-on-earth.htm

Has NDGT moved camps?

What do you suppose he knows?

Nope, sorry. You can't have Dr. Tyson, he's one of us.

[JGirl]

speaking for myself, i have already written us off as such so it would seem to me than any race supposedly more intelligent than we are would certainly have deduced the same.

n'est ce pas?

[sinewave]

speaking for myself, i have already written us off as such so it would seem to me than any race supposedly more intelligent than we are would certainly have deduced the same.

n'est ce pas?

Oui.

[zoser]

Nope, sorry. You can't have Dr. Tyson, he's one of us.

Maybe he's undecided? A bit of both?

[S2F]

Maybe he's undecided? A bit of both?

He's a scientist. He is undecided until proper data can be used to form a (testable/falsifiable) theory. Like he should. Like we all should.

[+OverSword]

Who said it was impossible to bend light?

It is possible to bend light. Light gets bent at the event horizon of a black hole right?

[Mr. ET]

First of all, I have to compliment you on your choices of user name and avatar. That is a great play on words and the avatar is both disturbing and hilarious. It is easily one of the best I've seen here. Kudos

The problem with the nuclear test hypothesis is the light from those tests is still making its way to all but a handful of stars. The light from the Trinity test would not have reached the nearest star system until about 1949 and it is doubtful it would have even been visible at that distance.

Thanks! Your right I didn't think of that.

[sinewave]

It is possible to bend light. Light gets bent at the event horizon of a black hole right?

Exactly. The ability for gravity to bend light is a pillar of the GToR. Without it we would not have detected black holes or dark matter.

[XenoFish]

Maybe. But what would be he point of it? Why would aliens make us in their likeness? Does that imply we think like them too? And why leave us to solve the mystery ourselves and where are they now? Is this a failed experiment or a successful one or one that hasnt run its course?

Perhaps we are the last ditch effort of a dying species. A means for them to exist even after they've died out. Like how children are a part of their parent, though they may not look exactly like them. Considering the higher radiation on the planet at the time, I'm sure there would have been mutations. Kind of reminds me of the intro to Prometheus. Maybe our quest for technology and space travel is instinctual?

Edited June 9, 2014 by XenoFish