Rafterman Posted June 18, 2014 #1 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) This is total and utter bull**** in my opinion. As long as the kid wasn't trying to hide his identity, then it's no one at the DMV's business nor is it the State of South Carolina's business for that matter. Would they tell a women wearing the raccoon-esque eye makeup that is so popular now to remove it? Doubt it. What about someone coming in with neon pink hair? And since when it is the government's job to define what constitutes looking like a male or looking like a female. There are plenty of effeminate looking men and masculine looking women in the world. There are also hyper-masculine gay men and heterosexual cross dressers. What this boils down to is that the person at the DMV simply didn't like the fact that the kid had on makeup and wanted to make a stink about it using what little power they have in their life. I hope this goes to court and I hope the kid wins. DMV forces gender non-conforming South Carolina teen to remove makeup for license photo: activists Chase Culpepper, 16, says workers at the DMV in Anderson accused him of wearing a disguise and forced him to take off his makeup. 'The government should not tell him there is something wrong with him just because he doesn't meet the DMV's expectations about what a boy should look like,' a spokesperson for the Transgender Legal Defense & Education Fund said. Read more: http://www.nydailyne...2#ixzz350zStNLC Edited June 18, 2014 by Rafterman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 18, 2014 #2 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Poor kid. She really got dressed up nice too. It's not up to me or you to tell someone which gender they identify as. Things are going to get more and more confusing as time goes on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafterman Posted June 18, 2014 Author #3 Share Posted June 18, 2014 And at the end of the day, what does it really matter. Since NYS doesn't require you to get a new photograph when you renew your license, my current DL has a photo of me from 1995 on it. I might as well be wearing a disguise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted June 18, 2014 #4 Share Posted June 18, 2014 If this person always goes around dressed and made up like a female...then shouldn't the photo have been allowed with the make up on? Isn't the point of an ID picture to look like the person? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblykiss Posted June 18, 2014 #5 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I watched the story up until the point where the boy said "I felt so degraded". If having to remove make up is degrading and dehumanizing then I have been alive far too long. God has given you one face, and you make yourself another. William Shakespeare 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libstaK Posted June 18, 2014 #6 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) I watched the story up until the point where the boy said "I felt so degraded". If having to remove make up is degrading and dehumanizing then I have been alive far too long. God has given you one face, and you make yourself another. William Shakespeare If women in general were asked to remove their make up before taking their ID photo, I would see your point - nothing at all degrading about being asked to do what everyone else is required to do before taking the photo. Fact is though, this kid was singled out because she was born a male and likely had male as the sex on the licence. It's gender bias pure and simple. What if a heterosexual male preferred to wear makeup? How is that any different from a female wearing make up? It is still product on a human face, yet it is okay for one but not for the other .... you see it make no logical sense and can only be discriminatory to treat males differently from females on the matter of face makeup at all. Edited June 18, 2014 by libstaK 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted June 18, 2014 #7 Share Posted June 18, 2014 God has given you one face, and you make yourself another. William Shakespeare Should guys with a beard and 'tache be forced to shave first? (lol) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 18, 2014 #8 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Government employees should have to go through sensitivity and tolerance training, especially the ones that deal with the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted June 18, 2014 #9 Share Posted June 18, 2014 And at the end of the day, what does it really matter. Since NYS doesn't require you to get a new photograph when you renew your license, my current DL has a photo of me from 1995 on it. I might as well be wearing a disguise. if you renew they might not take new pic, but when you are 16 and apply for a new license as it was in this case, you must have your pic taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted June 18, 2014 #10 Share Posted June 18, 2014 This is nothing, though I don't support it. The cynical view is that they are conditioning the younger generations for future mug shots. They've had them peeing in a bottle on demand for 15 years or so, taking off make-up is no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted June 20, 2014 #11 Share Posted June 20, 2014 In my state, you are not allowed to smile for your DL photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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