Still Waters Posted June 21, 2014 #1 Share Posted June 21, 2014 When neuroscientist Andrew Newberg scanned the brain of "Kevin", a staunch atheist, while he was meditating, he made a fascinating discovery. "Compared with the Buddhist monks and Franciscan nuns, whose brains I'd also scanned, Kevin's brain operated in a significantly different way," he says. http://www.telegraph...your-brain.html 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted June 21, 2014 #2 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Another load of useless research! Kevin`s brain could have been operating in a different way because of numerous reasons, just like someone into rap music may operate differently to someone into classical, someone into skydiving may operate differently to someone into bird watching. etc etc etc etc.... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted June 21, 2014 #3 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiXilver Posted June 21, 2014 #4 Share Posted June 21, 2014 religion is the process of spiritually house-breaking humans... Creighton Larson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Crane Feather Posted June 22, 2014 #5 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Aahhhhh yes. The old "if we can see it in the brain it's not real" argument. Well then, I suppose nothing exists then. Not really. Our rcognition of anything is only a complex set of nural chemical and electrical interactions. Scientists have prooven that nothing exists. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted June 22, 2014 #6 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I would submit that all brain functions are based on biological electro-chemical transactions. How does the spiritual manifest or alter these physical functions of the brain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Crane Feather Posted June 23, 2014 #7 Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) I would submit that all brain functions are based on biological electro-chemical transactions. How does the spiritual manifest or alter these physical functions of the brain? NDEs seem to occur when there is zero blood pressure, flat eegs, and extensive research into resuscitation techniques unfortunately using animals like dogs, confirms that complex visual, audio, and memory storage functions simply can't happen with zero blood pressure. Doctors really want to save people and in studying the process of dying they have put animals to death under many circumstances including scanning the brain. No activity with no blood pressure. ( one study with mice seems to have a new angle possibly). As of now the body of evidence suggest that indeed you don't need electrical interactions to have and store an experience to memory, nor do you need blood flow to the brain. If NDEs were like dreams or hallucinations, then all kinds of brainwaves would light up during experiments.... They don't. People can get all kinds of creative with "debunking" but its not what the evidence shows. As to the interface.... well. I don't thing there is one. Spirit/body is a very narrow duality. We may exist in quite a number of different ways simultaneously. This ego consciousness much like the tip of an ice burg. Edited June 23, 2014 by White Crane Feather 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted June 23, 2014 #8 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Of course NDE's have become big business, there's a lot of money to be made exploiting this subject. Since there have been no intensive medical research done on humans, all the personal reports of the experience are subjective. This doesn mean NDE's are not real, as the following quote demonstrates. To sort out the issue, Borjigin and her colleagues examined nine rats. They induced cardiac arrest while the animals were hooked up to EEG machines, and the team then measured the electrical activity in the animals' brains. About 30 seconds after the heart had stopped, all the animals experienced waves of synchronized brain activity that were characteristic of the conscious brain. Rats that were asphyxiated with carbon monoxide showed a similar pattern of brain activity. The rats' visual cortex, which processes visual imagery, was also highly activated. This could shed light on why NDEs are so vivid, Borjigin said. "They all show the fingerprints of neural consciousness at near-death is at a much higher level compared to the waking state. That explains the realer-than-real human experience," Borjigin told LiveScience. The team believes that this electrical surge may be a mechanism the brain uses to rescue itself from a sharp drop in glucose and oxygen. Though it may not work for animals in cardiac arrest, Borjigin speculates that this mechanism spurs alertness or hyperawareness in less critical situations. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/13/near-death-experiences-surge-activity-brain_n_3745339.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros of Skaro Posted June 25, 2014 #9 Share Posted June 25, 2014 "Some theologians, however, welcome the research, seeing it as proof that God equipped our bodies with the ability to believe." LOL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodentraiser Posted June 27, 2014 #10 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I've been told my brain is wired differently because I have Asperger Syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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