George Ford Posted July 2, 2014 #1 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Watching it live now, and the defense is trying to give some evidence based on some dodgy experiment about 'people being shocked and startled when expecting it and how they become startled', they are basically saying that Oscar got startled and involuntary shot the gun. I call bull crap, no way he 'accidentally' fired 4 times. I can not stand to even look at him, every thing he says and does in court has been, IMO, a cold and calculated act. (When the trial is happening it is broadcast live on this internet news site:- http://www.enca.com/oscartrial/ remember that it is South African time) Edited July 2, 2014 by bulveye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libstaK Posted July 2, 2014 #2 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) I believe his remorse is genuine - he is genuinely sorry to find himself in this predicament as a result of his self serving actions and temper. Edited July 2, 2014 by libstaK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ50 Posted July 2, 2014 #3 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I hope the little creep is sent down for a very long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted July 2, 2014 #4 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Watching it live now, and the defense is trying to give some evidence based on some dodgy experiment about 'people being shocked and startled when expecting it and how they become startled', they are basically saying that Oscar got startled and involuntary shot the gun. I call bull crap, no way he 'accidentally' fired 4 times. I can not stand to even look at him, every thing he says and does in court has been, IMO, a cold and calculated act. (When the trial is happening it is broadcast live on this internet news site:- http://www.enca.com/oscartrial/ remember that it is South African time) Looking over the case then it could go either way as to whether the prosecution have established a convincing motive for premeditated murder. Reports of arguments and his past gun hoe ways paint a picture of a volatile individual. Whatever the ruling on premeditated murder he is guilty of at least manslaughter. Thats because the self-defence laws in South Africa state that you can only shoot to kill in self-defence. Someone in your bathroom, who you can't see behind a closed door, who you don't know is a dangerous intruder or not, isn't a known threat. Therefore you don't have the right to empty the cartridges through the door and thats if you believe his story. Maybe a bit of jealousy over his girlfriends ex-boyf, an argument, she mocks him for having no legs, he snaps and shoots her! It could happen. 5 years for the manslaughter, 10 for ordinary murder in the heat of the moment or 15 for premeditated. He won't get more as he is remorseful. Edited July 2, 2014 by RabidMongoose 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatFromHell Posted July 2, 2014 #5 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) I don't know what to think. I do think he's probably guilty but I had a friend from South Africa and He said if you wake up in the middle of the night there and you think someones in your house, You grab a gun and think later. Something doesn't add up in this case though, Maybe Oscars playing on that part of it, Coming from such a dangerous country. That doesn't actually translate well on screen, But I know what i meant! Not trying to defend him at all, Just hearing some of my friends stories about life out there has made me think. Edited July 2, 2014 by SheWomanCatTypeThing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted July 2, 2014 #6 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I don't know what to think. I do think he's probably guilty but I had a friend from South Africa and He said if you wake up in the middle of the night there and you think someones in your house, You grab a gun and think later. Something doesn't add up in this case though, Maybe Oscars playing on that part of it, Coming from such a dangerous country. That doesn't actually translate well on screen, But I know what i meant! The problems in South Africa are real but if I woke up in the middle of the night due to a noise in the bathroom I wouldn't think it was an intruder, especially not when I live with someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatFromHell Posted July 2, 2014 #7 Share Posted July 2, 2014 The problems in South Africa are real but if I woke up in the middle of the night due to a noise in the bathroom I wouldn't think it was an intruder, especially not when I live with someone. Yeah I do know what you're saying and I agree, I was just thinking out loud really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orcseeker Posted July 2, 2014 #8 Share Posted July 2, 2014 The problems in South Africa are real but if I woke up in the middle of the night due to a noise in the bathroom I wouldn't think it was an intruder, especially not when I live with someone. Not to mention they're missing in the bed next to you 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatFromHell Posted July 2, 2014 #9 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Not to mention they're missing in the bed next to you Mind you, I do like to let my other half fall asleep on the sofa so I can have the bed to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted July 8, 2014 #10 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Mind you, I do like to let my other half fall asleep on the sofa so I can have the bed to myself. I sleep on the couch all the time. But I would still check where family members or someone as good looking as Reeva was before letting go with a pistol. I saw his re-enactment on 60 minutes on Sunday night. Personally, I do not believe him for one second. I do not know that it was premeditated, but I do not believe it was an accident either. Reeva's mother forgave him, I could not do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Ford Posted July 8, 2014 Author #11 Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/oscar-pistorius/10950458/Oscar-Pistorius-trial-Australias-Channel-Seven-defends-broadcasting-legally-obtained-re-enactment.html above site has a clip of him moving fast without his legs on, I'm pretty sure he said he couldn't move that fast. Anyway, the trial is adjourned now until August 7th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted July 8, 2014 #12 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Even if he is found not guilty, Pistorious, his defence team, and their witnesses, made a complete mess of his case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted July 8, 2014 #13 Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://www.telegraph...-enactment.html above site has a clip of him moving fast without his legs on, I'm pretty sure he said he couldn't move that fast. Anyway, the trial is adjourned now until August 7th Good link mate - I saw the very footage on Sunday night, it was in the 60 minutes show. What is weird is that link says Chanel seven aired it, maybe they did, but I saw it on channel nine. His lawyers are very upset at this, they have been arguing limited mobility, which this footage contradicts. Nope, do not believe him for one second. The more we learn, the less credibility he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrooma Posted July 8, 2014 #14 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) I call bull crap I can not stand to even look at him, every thing he says and does in court has been, IMO, a cold and calculated act. I hope the little creep is sent down for a very long time! Even if he is found not guilty, Pistorious, his defence team, and their witnesses, made a complete mess of his case. Nope, do not believe him for one second. The more we learn, the less credibility he has. . seeing as oscar pistorious hasn't got a leg to a leg to stand on, maybe rolf harris could lend him his extra one.... . (too soon...?) . Edited July 8, 2014 by shrooma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted July 9, 2014 #15 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) . seeing as oscar pistorious hasn't got a leg to a leg to stand on, maybe rolf harris could lend him his extra one.... . (too soon...?) . Just call Jake The Ped!!! Sorry, I meant Peg. I have to say I am stunned. I never would ever have picked Rolf to do the wrong thing, not in a million years. And yet Marilyn Manson seems a pretty decent bloke. What a funny world this is huh? Full of surprises, like I would never in a million years have figured Michael Jackson would die before Keith Richards!! Edited July 9, 2014 by psyche101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabby Kitten Posted July 9, 2014 #16 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I don't believe anything he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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