US policeman seen 'pummelling' woman

[aztek]

afaik cops are not sworn to serve and protect ordinary people, they are sworn to enforce the law, once you get this myth out of your head, things will start making sence. also note more and more laws lately only give morer power to police. hell there is a law that makes it a crime to annoy cops, and weather you annoy or not, is purely on cops discretion.

[Rafterman]

Spanked? Do you live in the 19th century?! These are considered child abuse.

That's not really here nor there now is it?

The fact that these things do happen and they are driven by frustration in most cases is the important point.

You can almost read the cop's mind - "dumb b**** making me chase her down, risking my life, her life, and the lives of all of these other folks out here. I'm going to give her a little "how ya doin" when I get her."

BTW, the CHP spokesman said this morning that there is a good deal more to the incident than what is being portrayed on the tape.

[Rafterman]

afaik cops are not sworn to serve and protect ordinary people, they are sworn to enforce the law, once you get this myth out of your head, things will start making sence. also note more and more laws lately only give morer power to police. hell there is a law that makes it a crime to annoy cops, and weather you annoy or not, is purely on cops discretion.

The CHP has a code of honor. It states: “ I, a member of the California Highway Patrol, subscribe in word and deed to the following:

To serve the United States of America and the State of California honestly, and conscientiously; and fulfill my oath as a soldier of the law;

To uphold and maintain the honor and integrity of the California Highway Patrol;

Be loyal to my fellow officers; respect and obey my seniors in rank; and enforce the law without fear, favor, or discrimination;

Assist those in peril or distress, and, if necessary, lay down my life rather than swerve from the path of duty;

My personal conduct shall at all times be above reproach and I will never knowingly commit any act that will in any way bring discredit upon the California Highway Patrol or any member thereof;

To all of this I do solemnly pledge my sacred honor as an Officer of the California Highway Patrol.

[supervike]

In this specific case, it's more than justified. This is the kind of police brutality that truly warrants outrage.

Totally agree. It shouldn't just be 'Jesse and Al' coming on this one, and the hundreds like it.

Every citizen should be outraged for this sort of thing. Instead, tax payers will pay some sort of restitution to the lady, the cop will be 'suspended-with pay', and we'll all stay quiet until the next horrendous act.

[Big Jim]

afaik cops are not sworn to serve and protect ordinary people, they are sworn to enforce the law, once you get this myth out of your head, things will start making sence. also note more and more laws lately only give morer power to police. hell there is a law that makes it a crime to annoy cops, and weather you annoy or not, is purely on cops discretion.

Aztek, I believe you are right. Perhaps it's my age and my lack of contact the police, but I was remembering a time when "to protect and serve" or some variant thereof was proudly displayed on the side of police cars. I was all set to prove to you that this was not a myth so I went looking for pictures. All I found were pictures of very intimidating looking police cars that all looked like race cars with only the word Police on them. With a little more searching I did find a couple from Mayberry that had the slogan I remembered. My sole contact with the police is through the evening news and I must admit that I am often appalled at the heavy handed tactics I see. There is no reason on Earth for tasing little old ladies and clearly senile men. The same goes for cuffing and arresting first graders. Recently a local teenage girl who didn't comply quickly enough to a policeman's order to stop was shot four times in the head through her windshield. She was leaving a party and travelling all of 5 mph. This scares the daylights out of me since I move very slow and my cane could easily be mistaken for a gun. Thanks for dispelling my myth.

[aztek]

, but I was remembering a time when "to protect and serve" or some variant thereof was proudly displayed on the side of police cars.

it is still on their cars, they do serve and protect, but not us, they serve the law, and protect themselves.

here is more than you'd see in evening news.

http://www.policemisconduct.net/

Edited July 7, 2014 by aztek

[ninjadude]

You can almost read the cop's mind - "dumb b**** making me chase her down, risking my life, her life, and the lives of all of these other folks out here. I'm going to give her a little "how ya doin" when I get her."

If that's what he's thinkin, he needs to be fired. More than that though, he should be arrested for assault.

Edited July 8, 2014 by ninjadude

[No Censorship]

Totally agree. It shouldn't just be 'Jesse and Al' coming on this one, and the hundreds like it.

Every citizen should be outraged for this sort of thing. Instead, tax payers will pay some sort of restitution to the lady, the cop will be 'suspended-with pay', and we'll all stay quiet until the next horrendous act.

They obviously need better training at some police academies. They should learn how to effectively communicate with vulnerable people, like diabetics (upthread post) and schizophrenics. Teach recruits to use a scalpel, instead of a hammer, in these cases. It might save a few lives.

[No Censorship]

This could have been any of us. A few years ago in my area the cops dragged a man from his car and beat him for not responding. It turned out that the man was having a diabetic crisis and could not respond. I consider my self to be an ordinary law abiding citizen, not anti-police at all, but these incidents clearly show a lack of training and a hostile attitude towards the very people the police are sworn to protect. It seems that they have lost the ability to distinguish between criminals and the ordinary people they encounter. It's too bad she was a black woman because the ensuing racial uproar will cloud the real issue of abuse of authority.

A very widespread lack of common sense, as well as a dearth of acceptable proportionality, might be behind many of these events. Unfortunately, the extinction or scarcity of horse sense is certainly not limited to law enforcement. You see examples in all kinds of professions, and some of them are actually codified in things like TSA protocol. Schools zero-tolerance rules may be the worst offenders. The one-size-fits-all nonsense often takes the place of common sense. Future generations will be more likely to accept it as normal. Critical and logical approaches to dilemmas will atrophy due to the reliance on accepted SOP. Individuals, who point out that the emperor (unreasonable protocol) has no clothes (rationality), will be ostracized as radicals.

[aztek]

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — A Utah police officer who killed his wife, their two children, his mother-in-law and then himself received text messages from his wife just hours earlier threatening to leave him and take their kids and confronting him for raping her, new documents show.

A Spanish Fork Police report shows Joshua Boren and his wife exchanged heated texts the night and morning before the January killings.

In them, Kelly Boren confronted her husband about raping her and told him their marriage was over, The Deseret News reported (http://bit.ly/1oC8lWG ). The couple already had been separated for some time.

Joshua Boren's therapist told authorities that Boren drugged his wife and videotaped himself sexually assaulting her on more than one occasion.

i guess we do need that background check and mental evaluation, oh wait, he was a cop so he would be exempt anyway. but wait it gets more interesting,

The police report says Joshua Boren was sexually abused as a child, struggled with drug addiction as a young man and pornography addiction throughout his life, and had a deep-rooted hatred for his mother.

After his father committed suicide when he was 5, Joshua Boren's mother began using drugs and seeing several men, the report states. One of those men allegedly abused Joshua Boren, and he blamed his mother for not protecting him, his sister told police.

The therapist told police Boren was like a "3-year-old boy stuck in a big man's body."......... and yet he had a badge a a gun.

Edited July 8, 2014 by aztek

[Rafterman]

If that's what he's thinkin, he needs to be fired. More than that though, he should be arrested for assault.

Which is exactly what I said should happen pending the investigation.

[Rafterman]

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — A Utah police officer who killed his wife, their two children, his mother-in-law and then himself received text messages from his wife just hours earlier threatening to leave him and take their kids and confronting him for raping her, new documents show.

A Spanish Fork Police report shows Joshua Boren and his wife exchanged heated texts the night and morning before the January killings.

In them, Kelly Boren confronted her husband about raping her and told him their marriage was over, The Deseret News reported (http://bit.ly/1oC8lWG ). The couple already had been separated for some time.

Joshua Boren's therapist told authorities that Boren drugged his wife and videotaped himself sexually assaulting her on more than one occasion.

i guess we do need that background check and mental evaluation, oh wait, he was a cop so he would be exempt anyway. but wait it gets more interesting,

The police report says Joshua Boren was sexually abused as a child, struggled with drug addiction as a young man and pornography addiction throughout his life, and had a deep-rooted hatred for his mother.

After his father committed suicide when he was 5, Joshua Boren's mother began using drugs and seeing several men, the report states. One of those men allegedly abused Joshua Boren, and he blamed his mother for not protecting him, his sister told police.

The therapist told police Boren was like a "3-year-old boy stuck in a big man's body."......... and yet he had a badge a a gun.

While I have never had an issue with the police, I am always leery of these small town cops. I know of several here in New York State that couldn't make it with the New York State Police, other state law enforcement agencies, larger metropolitan forces, or county sheriff's offices, but yet they were able to get onto the forces in these little podunk towns.