Duelix Posted July 6, 2014 #1 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I am an atheist, I support Gay rights, drink, vote liberal, listen to alternative music and have not been baptized. I have done some good and I am overall a decent person, in light of these facts will I be thrown into the lake of or granted mercy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted July 6, 2014 #2 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I don't know, I'm an agnostic. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblykiss Posted July 6, 2014 #3 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I am an atheist, I support Gay rights, drink, vote liberal, listen to alternative music and have not been baptized. I have done some good and I am overall a decent person, in light of these facts will I be thrown into the lake of or granted mercy? If you are an atheist I don't think you would care until such time as the Heavy Judger of Men castes his perfect Judgement upon you. And even then I am inclined to believe that you will still disbelieve what is happening is in fact happening to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted July 6, 2014 #4 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Why would you care what Jesus will or will not do? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DancingCorpse Posted July 6, 2014 #5 Share Posted July 6, 2014 He'd be a pretty busy guy if he judged every single person who died, the real question is, would he have the time to complete such tasks if time does not really pass in heaven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunn Posted July 6, 2014 #6 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I thought we were already in hell. Or at least it feels like that sometimes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 6, 2014 #7 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I am an atheist, I support Gay rights, drink, vote liberal, listen to alternative music and have not been baptized. I have done some good and I am overall a decent person, in light of these facts will I be thrown into the lake of or granted mercy? Can you find the part in the bible where Jesus says that? Do you really even care? Are you just asking that question to torment Christians? Can you tell I spend a lot of time on the answer a question with a question thread? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted July 6, 2014 #8 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I am an atheist, I support Gay rights, drink, vote liberal, listen to alternative music and have not been baptized. I have done some good and I am overall a decent person, in light of these facts will I be thrown into the lake of or granted mercy? The theological answer is that god will judge you as an individual, measuring your heart and soul. If you are safe to be admitted "into heaven" you will be. Biblically you would be placed not in heaven but on the new earth with all the 'saved' resurrected humans. Only you , (and possibly god) know in your heart and mind, if you are really a good person or not . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 6, 2014 #9 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I thought we were already in hell. Or at least it feels like that sometimes. Only to people who don't blame their own actions for their own unhappiness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beany Posted July 6, 2014 #10 Share Posted July 6, 2014 We don't whether Jesus would judge you, but certainly know that some of our brethren would send you to hell if they were able. I'd say it's not Jesus we should be worrying about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambelamba Posted July 6, 2014 #11 Share Posted July 6, 2014 He'd be a pretty busy guy if he judged every single person who died, the real question is, would he have the time to complete such tasks if time does not really pass in heaven? How about every single sentient lifeform in the universe? In that case, Judgment Day won't come anytime soon because Jesus would be busy preaching to denizens in Magellan Cluster by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblykiss Posted July 6, 2014 #12 Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) I know who will judge you Sharon at Cinnabun. Her condescending eyes burning holes right through you as you order a half dozen high calorie, sugary-laced diabetes bombs. I just want to ride my shame train to deliciousness without her cruel unceasing gaze of endless hatred as she sits behind her cash register armor pouring liquid loathing throughout my every scrumptious, mouthwatering bite of heavenly Cinnabun goodness. Edited July 6, 2014 by bubblykiss 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 6, 2014 #13 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I know who will judge you Sharon at Cinnabun. Her condescending eyes burning holes right through you as you order a half dozen high calorie, sugary-laced diabetes bombs. I just want to ride my shame train to deliciousness without her cruel unceasing gaze of endless hatred as she sits behind her cash register armor pouring liquid loathing throughout my every scrumptious, mouthwatering bite of heavenly Cinnabun goodness. Does she know if you don't eat her bus she doesn't get paid? Whoa that sounds perverted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted July 6, 2014 #14 Share Posted July 6, 2014 in light of these facts will I be thrown into the lake of or granted mercy? Don know, don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros of Skaro Posted July 6, 2014 #15 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Just read a "Chick tract". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted July 6, 2014 #16 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'm told by a lot of Christians that if you ask Jesus to forgive your sins he'll accept you into heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted July 6, 2014 #17 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'm told by a lot of Christians that if you ask Jesus to forgive your sins he'll accept you into heaven. I'm told that if a bell rings an angel gets its wings, but if a mousetrap snaps, an angel gets set on fire. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted July 6, 2014 #18 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'm told that if a bell rings an angel gets its wings, but if a mousetrap snaps, an angel gets set on fire. Don't quit your day job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted July 6, 2014 #19 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Don't quit your day job. My day job is as a mouse trap snapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted July 6, 2014 #20 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I am an atheist, I support Gay rights, drink, vote liberal, listen to alternative music and have not been baptized. I have done some good and I am overall a decent person, in light of these facts will I be thrown into the lake of or granted mercy? Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. John 3:18 Now the real question is this, Duelix, why would one refuse to believe if this is all they must do to avoid judgement? And the answer is usually that human nature tells us we are okay as we are and that NO ONE and nothing has a right to tell us how to live. When a person looks at things in this light the choice should become pretty clear. The gospel says nothing about becoming perfect. It just says to believe and to ask forgiveness. If a person feels they've done nothing to be forgiven for then why worry? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Paranoid Android Posted July 6, 2014 #21 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I am an atheist, I support Gay rights, drink, vote liberal, listen to alternative music and have not been baptized. I have done some good and I am overall a decent person, in light of these facts will I be thrown into the lake of or granted mercy? You're an atheist, I'm assuming you don't believe in heaven or hell, so it seems.... curious.... that you're asking whether you'll go somewhere that doesn't exist. It's like saying I haven't slaughtered anyone in glorious combat, will I still get to go to sto'vo'kor? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted July 6, 2014 #22 Share Posted July 6, 2014 You're an atheist, I'm assuming you don't believe in heaven or hell, so it seems.... curious.... that you're asking whether you'll go somewhere that doesn't exist. It's like saying I haven't slaughtered anyone in glorious combat, will I still get to go to sto'vo'kor? Don't be so Jesuitic in your approach and you would be more effective; as it is you come across as a smartass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted July 6, 2014 #23 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. John 3:18 Now the real question is this, Duelix, why would one refuse to believe if this is all they must do to avoid judgement? And the answer is usually that human nature tells us we are okay as we are and that NO ONE and nothing has a right to tell us how to live. When a person looks at things in this light the choice should become pretty clear. The gospel says nothing about becoming perfect. It just says to believe and to ask forgiveness. If a person feels they've done nothing to be forgiven for then why worry? You've got it messed up; one doesn't believe for a very simple reason -- there is insufficient evidence. Indeed the good evidence is against Christianity and its whole scheme, both historically and logically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted July 6, 2014 #24 Share Posted July 6, 2014 The evidence is the universe doesn't care about us and there is no God to change that. If it turns out that this is not the case and the universe does care, then no one will go to any Hell or such. That is just outrageous barbarism to think such things. It may take a million or a billion lives for us to get straight with the universe, but we will have all the time in the world. I suspect the universe cares because of the fact we exist and we have sentience and intelligence and ethics and aesthetics and curiosity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duelix Posted July 6, 2014 Author #25 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Ok so if there is a Jesus why doesn't he get down here and show himself. You know go on ac360 and give an interview to the general public about what they need to do avoid sinning. If god is all powerful then surely he could come on TV and tell us the secrets of the universe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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