Gromdor Posted November 17, 2014 #26 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I did find this one the mainstream media: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-jet-makes-provocative-and-unprofessional-pass-at-uss-donald-cook/ The article leaves out any the details of the USS Donald Cook being paralyzed but does mention the 12 passes. So the Russians did do something and apparently weren't afraid of the USS Donald Cook. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarPlexus Posted November 17, 2014 Author #27 Share Posted November 17, 2014 90 minutes is a LOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarPlexus Posted November 17, 2014 Author #28 Share Posted November 17, 2014 No we dont but "we" know that the whole story was made up by RIA Nowosti, so file closed. heh ... check again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted November 17, 2014 #29 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Sigh... The OP is jumping to wild conclusions again. It's a BS story. By the way, "if" this happened, it would be considered an act of aggression and responded to with prejudice. Since none of that happened, it only strengthens the BS amount with this propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted November 17, 2014 #30 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I did find this one the mainstream media: http://www.cbsnews.c...ss-donald-cook/ The article leaves out any the details of the USS Donald Cook being paralyzed but does mention the 12 passes. So the Russians did do something and apparently weren't afraid of the USS Donald Cook. did you note that the plane had an escort. they may have been trying to get the destroyer to open up on the unarmed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiXilver Posted November 17, 2014 #31 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) wrong thread... Edited November 17, 2014 by quiXilver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 17, 2014 #32 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I would be rather incredulous of anything concerning the United States from this site. Read and decide for yourselves. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire_Network 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted November 17, 2014 #33 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) This reminds me of The left picture reminds me of SEAL training during "Hell Week" They are deprived of sleep, scant nutrition, and that particular exercise is "teamwork" under severe physical duress. And what's up with road signs on the right-hand pic? Is she an installer or a thief? Edited November 17, 2014 by pallidin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiXilver Posted November 17, 2014 #34 Share Posted November 17, 2014 who is selling what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarPlexus Posted November 17, 2014 Author #35 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I would be rather incredulous of anything concerning the United States from this site. Read and decide for yourselves. http://en.wikipedia....oltaire_Network +CBS, Daily Mail, Washington times, RT all covered the story don't be lazy ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted November 17, 2014 #36 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Just mimic a solar flare through a localised source directed on a focused target ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skookum Posted November 17, 2014 #37 Share Posted November 17, 2014 90 minutes is a hell of a long time. Plenty of time to call in for air support to chase off if they felt under serious threat. I would also imagine they would have called for help if left disabled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted November 17, 2014 #38 Share Posted November 17, 2014 90 minutes is a hell of a long time. Plenty of time to call in for air support to chase off if they felt under serious threat. I would also imagine they would have called for help if left disabled. the story said they had been completely jammed meaning they couldn't call for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted November 17, 2014 #39 Share Posted November 17, 2014 heh ... check again No need for. But maybe you have to check more deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted November 17, 2014 #40 Share Posted November 17, 2014 did you note that the plane had an escort. they may have been trying to get the destroyer to open up on the unarmed on. I didn't see anything about an escort. Also if the USS Cook "opened" up, wouldn't it shoot the armed one first if they were able? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 17, 2014 #41 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) The flyby incident was reported in the media when it happened. The jamming stuff was added later by this "impeccable" source. http://indian.ruvr.r...nald-Cook-5786/ Edited November 17, 2014 by Hammerclaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 17, 2014 #42 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) +CBS, Daily Mail, Washington times, RT all covered the story don't be lazy ! They reported the flyby incident. Everything else in your link is manufactured BS. An EM pulse strong enough to disable a US destroyer would have been picked up by stations all over the Black Sea and would have knocked the plane generating it and his wingman out of the sky. Also, US military personnel aren't allowed to resign. No confirmation of the jamming nonsense has ever been confirmed by anything other than tinhat sources. Edited November 17, 2014 by Hammerclaw 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted November 17, 2014 #43 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Yeah only heard the low fly pass. Civilian vessels would of reported it as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiXilver Posted November 17, 2014 #44 Share Posted November 17, 2014 entertainingly stupid this is... [/end yoda voice] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted November 17, 2014 #45 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) bull sht, only nuke explosion in close proximity (emp) to ship can knock all electronic out on a modern day navy ship. Edited November 17, 2014 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted November 17, 2014 #46 Share Posted November 17, 2014 An emp would cook the electronics and need to be repaired too. Electronic warfare jamming I can see. After all isn't it the Russians and Chinese who get blamed everytime the State Dept or white house gets hacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted November 17, 2014 #47 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Electronic warfare jamming I can see. After all isn't it the Russians and Chinese who get blamed everytime the State Dept or white house gets hacked? well i can not see a modern navy ship's all electronics knocked out by jammer. that is b.s. neither i see how bringing up hacks accusations can support this bs story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skookum Posted November 17, 2014 #48 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) the story said they had been completely jammed meaning they couldn't call for help. So is it EMP? If any failing happened I doubt it was something being carried by a fighter bomber designed in 1974. Why strap your latest kit to a plane long past retirement for the world to see? Search the net and so many countries have been chasing off Russian planes over the last few months. With all these incursions this is the only report of a wonder weapon EMP device. The report even with the wonder weapon report says they saw it coming and tracked it. My betting if if there was a failure it was on the ships systems not the basket of tricks on the SU-24 Are we suggesting it is so advanced it blocks all basic communication? Sounds like Star Trek to me. Edited November 17, 2014 by skookum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted November 17, 2014 #49 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) electromagnetic jamming — The deliberate radiation, reradiation, or reflection of electromagnetic energy for the purpose of preventing or reducing an enemy’s effective use of the electromagnetic spectrum, and with the intent of degrading or neutralizing the enemy’s combat capability. See also electromagnetic spectrum; electromagnetic spectrum management; electronic warfare. http://www.militaryterms.net/e If a jamming had been conducted on a level as described, it had been judged as an attack, like cannon fire, by the US for very good reasons. Was there an issue about such an attack at the G20 summit? No, it wasn`t, because ......Was there any complaint by the US about such an attack? No, it wasn`t, because .. The opinions about Putin are very different, but he is not an idiot at least who would order such an action. Maybe the fat guy with the funny haircut would, but not Putin. And BTW, looking at the doctored image (the first one) in the OP article, it should be known from where this source is coming from. BS^12. Edited November 17, 2014 by toast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2F Posted November 17, 2014 #50 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Whenever it is possible to shield components from an EMP then the US Navy has done so I'm sure. Especially for vital systems including defense. Not to mention that for most Navy positions the crew are trained in old-school manual 'readiness' exercises in case systems are down or compromised. Even a 'jammed' ship is a deadly adversary that is fully capable of engaging targets if necessary. Edited November 17, 2014 by S2F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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