UM-Bot Posted November 27, 2014 #1 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Geo-engineering schemes designed to tackle global warming could prove disastrous for billions of people. The science of geo-engineering involves utilizing new technologies and methods to artificially alter the planet's climate in an effort to tackle global warming and other environmental issues. Read More: http://www.unexplain...d-harm-billions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted November 27, 2014 #2 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Are they all at it, we just had something like this about Britain, http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=275185&hl= Nice to know we will not be alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Br Cornelius Posted November 27, 2014 #3 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Anything but address the issue of emissions. Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atuke Posted November 27, 2014 #4 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Who cares. There are about 8.5 billion people too many as it is 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzo Posted November 27, 2014 #5 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Or, we could just control the human population from breeding and consuming everything including the kitchen sink... Nah! that would actually work. Lets pretend and the problem will eventually go away on its own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted November 27, 2014 #6 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Geez, I don't think we should tinker around with the environment. We probably have already done enough tinkering with our actions. And if nothing else, seems like almost every time we decide to tinker with nature, there's some sort of ill ramification. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Br Cornelius Posted November 27, 2014 #7 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Geez, I don't think we should tinker around with the environment. We probably have already done enough tinkering with our actions. And if nothing else, seems like almost every time we decide to tinker with nature, there's some sort of ill ramification. Thats the wisdom that is yet to dawn on our leaders. Until it does we are somewhat doomed. Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted November 27, 2014 #8 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Looking around I can't help but see the detrimental affect introducing kudzu, the vine that ate the south, into our environment. Bright move that was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 27, 2014 #9 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Nice edit UM bot. The initial quote from the article in full is: Schemes to tackle climate change could prove disastrous for billions of people, but might be required for the good of the planet, scientists say. Who has the right to decide that for everyone else? What a huge ego you would need to think you were the one to make that call. Edited November 27, 2014 by OverSword 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumball Posted November 28, 2014 #10 Share Posted November 28, 2014 This should never happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jim Posted November 28, 2014 #11 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Until we have shown 100% proficiency at merely predicting the weather we should avoid tampering with it. Hundreds of meteorologists around the world, using the latest supercomputers, prove everyday that we don't yet understand all the intricacies that make up our weather. It's one thing to get a prediction wrong due to our lack of understanding, it would be quite another to make permanent changes based on the same level of knowledge and experience. Wisdom is often best expressed by knowing when to stop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted November 28, 2014 #12 Share Posted November 28, 2014 "for the good of the planet, scientists say." NOt for your good or my good or their good or the good of someone else ... the Planet ~ Its for the planet ~ or more accurately the environment ~ or more specifically eradicating the poisons that is also detrimental to our well being ~ ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted November 28, 2014 #13 Share Posted November 28, 2014 "for the good of the planet, scientists say." NOt for your good or my good or their good or the good of someone else ... the Planet ~ Its for the planet ~ or more accurately the environment ~ or more specifically eradicating the poisons that is also detrimental to our well being ~ ~ So, basically the mess we have made which has contributed to nature protecting itself against the unnatural pressures we have placed on it? Lots of flooding in France at the moment and many have died, years ago they frantically started replanting trees in areas which became flood risk areas because...they had chopped down all the trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted November 28, 2014 #14 Share Posted November 28, 2014 So, basically the mess we have made which has contributed to nature protecting itself against the unnatural pressures we have placed on it? Lots of flooding in France at the moment and many have died, years ago they frantically started replanting trees in areas which became flood risk areas because...they had chopped down all the trees. Its part and parcel really ... here we are chopping down the old 'dead' trees because the lumber is still usable ~ thing is the trees were dying from the pollution and environmentally harmful heavy industries in the area ~ those factories that has to be furthest from City limits is always closer to the environmentally fragile areas ~ granted that there is replanting but that will gain naught if the pollution doesn't stop ~ agro usable soil is already at the minimum ~ some habitable areas are already rendered too harmful to continue sustaining any kind of population ~ old cemeteries and land dumps are being reclaimed for 'high' rise luxurious condos to make the best bang for buck ~ but it is still on the same road going 90 mile down a dead end street ~ ~ I'll spare the forums the music clip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerberusxp Posted November 28, 2014 #15 Share Posted November 28, 2014 HAARP has pushed our atmosphere 5 miles up into space super cooling the air inside that bubble when collapsed this super cooled air is dispersed into our air. This IS what caused the arctic SUPER storm we just experienced.On top of that our planet has been COOLING for 11 years straight ya JACKASSES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skookum Posted November 28, 2014 #16 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Maybe the headline should read 'Fixing climate change, could harm collecting billions in green taxes'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxo1 Posted November 28, 2014 #17 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I say we shouldn't mess with nature, because nature is a force unto itself which we don't fully understand. We really are playing with a two edged sword here, either way we could end up in very big trouble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 29, 2014 #18 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) snip Edited November 29, 2014 by OverSword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regeneratia Posted December 2, 2014 #19 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) And still no mention of the huge and bad effects of Fukushima. It is all about anthropogenic climate change, that was once called global warming (now an inaccurate label). Let's be real: anthropogenic climate change is fake and the real danger from Fukushima is NOT or NEVER mentioned. Why is that? Fukushima is harming and will harm more people than anthropogenic climate change. Edited December 2, 2014 by regeneratia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted December 2, 2014 #20 Share Posted December 2, 2014 And still no mention of the huge and bad effects of Fukushima. It is all about anthropogenic climate change, that was once called global warming (now an inaccurate label). Let's be real: anthropogenic climate change is fake and the real danger from Fukushima is NOT or NEVER mentioned. Why is that? Fukushima is harming and will harm more people than anthropogenic climate change. Heck, even Dr. Fruit Fly understood that he won't make much money on fearmongering about this issue:So far, none of the citizen-collected seawater samples taken from the Pacific Coast has contained any trace of radiation from Fukushima(David Suzuki Foundation, May 28, 2014)Once again, nuclear tests and Chernobyl accident produced way more (by orders of magnitude) radioactive pollutants than Fukushima. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Br Cornelius Posted December 2, 2014 #21 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Refreshing to see that Climate change deniers never die, they just crawl under a rock for a while to mutate. Meanwhile Arctic sea ice continues its precipitous decline - nothing to see here - move along Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1029 Posted December 2, 2014 #22 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Looking around I can't help but see the detrimental affect introducing kudzu, the vine that ate the south, into our environment. Bright move that was. "The vine that ate the south" - apt description. It was introduced by the Soil Conservation Service as a ground cover intended to keep eroded sites from washing away. It did that - and a little bit more. There are always untended consequences. One is economic. In what way does anybody think that engineering solutions to climate change are going to be cheaper than limiting emissions? Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aearluin Posted December 2, 2014 #23 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) We have a long history of humans trying to solve problems they caused with ingenious solutions, most often resulting in a new, even bigger problem. Out of the top of my mind, the introduction cane toads in Australia to control the cane beetles that were destroying sugar cane production. Unfortunately toads feed at night and the beetles are diurnal, so the toads didn't solve the problem and went on to become a major pest by themselves, eating any indigenous animals available and poisoning local predators that are not adapted to their poison. So please, before coming up with brilliant geo-engineering solution, try to fully undertand how the planetary climate funtions (which we most certainly don't)! Edited December 2, 2014 by aearluin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted December 2, 2014 #24 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Stop polluting ~ now there's a good plan if I ever heard of one ~ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regeneratia Posted December 2, 2014 #25 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Heck, even Dr. Fruit Fly understood that he won't make much money on fearmongering about this issue: (David Suzuki Foundation, May 28, 2014) Once again, nuclear tests and Chernobyl accident produced way more (by orders of magnitude) radioactive pollutants than Fukushima. I think you need to do some more research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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