Anonymous Declares War on the Terrorists

[EnderOTD]

Excuses ? Tell that to the people responsible for keeping your society safe ~

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If you think this is helping you 'win' ... you are mistaken ~

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What the hell are you on about? Say what you really want to man.

[SHaYap]

What the hell are you on about? Say what you really want to man.

Nope , I only say what I have to not what I want to ...

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[Helen of Annoy]

Nope , I only say what I have to not what I want to ...

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And that's precisely what's wrong with the system you're defending here.

What I want to say to you is that I like you so much and I wish I could understand your points in this matter. Usually I understand you perfectly, but here... I lost you, completely.

You can't be asking us to prostrate in front of psychopaths, yet it keeps looking like that.

[SHaYap]

And that's precisely what's wrong with the system you're defending here.

What I want to say to you is that I like you so much and I wish I could understand your points in this matter. Usually I understand you perfectly, but here... I lost you, completely.

You can't be asking us to prostrate in front of psychopaths, yet it keeps looking like that.

That's where you are mistaken, I am not defending anything ~ I am commenting on the situation , and I am not looking at it as an episodic incident ~

You are looking at it as an 'isolated' incident ~ it is not ~ and if you allow yourself that step towards responding like for like ~ then 'they' have won

All this talk of 'Freedom' and 'Rights' is tainted by hypocrisy ~ condemn them , but don't let yourself be reduced to the level that is not from where you say you stand ~

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[Helen of Annoy]

That's where you are mistaken, I am not defending anything ~ I am commenting on the situation , and I am not looking at it as an episodic incident ~

You are looking at it as an 'isolated' incident ~ it is not ~ and if you allow yourself that step towards responding like for like ~ then 'they' have won

All this talk of 'Freedom' and 'Rights' is tainted by hypocrisy ~ condemn them , but don't let yourself be reduced to the level that is not from where you say you stand ~

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You wish.

I’m perfectly aware of the context, with all its dirty details, and they are not in favour of aggressive, quasi-theocratic, sadistic and all around pathological ideology whose zombies are in delusion they could rule the world.

I lost you again.

Where do I stand, according to your understanding?

(I know where I stand, on the other side of the ****en fence and if I took trouble to lean over the ****en fence so I can hear you better you should respond with the same courtesy. Oh, the patronizingly fine mannered one.)

Now, my actual question you avoided responding:

Are you asking us to prostrate in front of psychopaths?

You are free to do so, I’m just asking because I’m worried for your mental health.

[SHaYap]

You wish.

I’m perfectly aware of the context, with all its dirty details, and they are not in favour of aggressive, quasi-theocratic, sadistic and all around pathological ideology whose zombies are in delusion they could rule the world.

I lost you again.

Where do I stand, according to your understanding?

(I know where I stand, on the other side of the ****en fence and if I took trouble to lean over the ****en fence so I can hear you better you should respond with the same courtesy. Oh, the patronizingly fine mannered one.)

Not patronizing ... I am refusing to lowering myself to the levels that is equally abhorrent demonstrated by those 'hunt them down and wipe them out' parties and those that resorts to criminal behavior either ~

Now, my actual question you avoided responding:

Are you asking us to prostrate in front of psychopaths?

You are free to do so, I’m just asking because I’m worried for your mental health.

My response was deemed insufficient to you enough to be rendered unnoticeable ~ I said 'Condemn them' but not at the cost that makes your reaction questionable ~

I appreciate your concern but my mental health is the least of my priority here ~ If it was , I would just have kept clear of threads such as these ~

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[pallidin]

Not patronizing ... I am refusing to lowering myself to the levels that is equally abhorrent demonstrated by those 'hunt them down and wipe them out' parties and those that resorts to criminal behavior either ~

OK, so WHAT would be an appropriate counter-response to clearly brutal terrorism by them?

If we do NOTHING, they thrive, and thrive and thrive.

What is your better solution? Glad to hear what it might be.

[ellapenella]

It's not as easy as just go get em....not when they've infiltrated the world over. They live everywhere...And what about the people who are being indoctrinated into their criminal sect...because of whatever hardships they've encounter ... They seem to be hate driven , people...obviously..

I'm not saying anything ill about religion , cause they're not all about God and goodwill towards all...

There's no easy answer. But they need to be shut down from the internet , obviously... so why haven't they been ???

New day New war... I place my trust in the cybermilitary soldiers, not anonymous....

[ellapenella]

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just don't know why it's taken so long??? that seems fishy ...

[ellapenella]

and also countries have been kind , too kind in allowing people to live amongst them .People who are not ever going to hold the same ways and values . I do not see them moving to this side of the earth because they want to be free but because they want to take over the world...is why i think they've spread themselves abroad...maybe i'm just delusional.

[SHaYap]

OK, so WHAT would be an appropriate counter-response to clearly brutal terrorism by them?

If we do NOTHING, they thrive, and thrive and thrive.

What is your better solution? Glad to hear what it might be.

No more of anything that adds more fuel to the fire and putting the safety of more people (everyone) at risk would be a good start ~ and let the people that is responsible for dealing with this do their Job ~

Not only they thrive , they multiply ~ and that goes for the 'other side'

~ I have been saying this for years here on UM ... the way things are being done is not working out ~ if you still believe it is , then that's your faith , me frankly , I don't see things like these leading anywhere near anything good , for everybody ~

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[Thorvir]

Wait, a bunch of internet terrorists declaring war on physical terrorists? Maybe they'll somehow wipe each other out.

[pallidin]

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just don't know why it's taken so long??? that seems fishy ...

The radicals do not rely on the Internet for survival or for continued expansionism/brutality.

They rely upon their self and the rape of oil, peoples, monies, armaments and covert acquisition of the same.

[Thorvir]

OK, so WHAT would be an appropriate counter-response to clearly brutal terrorism by them?

Wipe them out. Then go after the doctrines and beliefs that cause them to do the things that they do so new terrorists can't be born from it.

Then move on to the next group of terrorists, repeat process.

If we do NOTHING, they thrive, and thrive and thrive.

Exactly.

What is your better solution? Glad to hear what it might be.

Me too.

[pallidin]

Perhaps it's time to make the following points clear...

Neither ISIS nor Al-Qaeda are satisfied with the idea of a separate state. They want to take-over the entire world and instill harsh Islamic rule.

This was publicly declared by both of the faction leadership.

I choose not to desire that to happen, and I support all efforts to stop and crush these brutal monsters, whatever it takes.

[Skep B]

Why would you be rooting for ISIS? Or did you mean rooting for Anonymous?

I find Anonymous, in concept to be absurd. They bother me

*edit for clarification*

Not to say ISIS is some upstanding wonderful thing. But if I had to pick one of these two groups of idiots to win I'm not picking the side who wear Guy Fawkes masks.

Edited January 10, 2015 by Skep B

[Careful_perspective]

It would take an awful lot to make me view Anonymous negatively, ESPECIALLY, after what they did to take down Hunter Moore and his revenge porn website.

You can read about it here for anyone who is interested. http://www.xojane.co...ch-revenge-porn

Edit:

Also for what they did in the Steubenville rape case.

Edited January 10, 2015 by woodsbooger

[pallidin]

Anonymous, given their past successes, should be taken seriously.

If they declare war on terrorists, more power to them.

But, apart from freezing bank accounts and such(which I'm all for if they can do this), I would caution Anon from a blanket disruption of internet.

It should be recalled that one high-level terrorists defected because he had access(given his status) to the FULL internet and came to a personal conclusion that radicalized Islam was wrong. Hence he defected.

What we need to do is somehow make available FULL internet access to Islamic radical/wannabes.

I do know that unauthorized internet access is subject to death in the radical world.

[SHaYap]

Did anybody even stop to ask what Anon means by 'terrorists' ?

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[questionmark]

Anonymous, given their past successes, should be taken seriously.

If they declare war on terrorists, more power to them.

But, apart from freezing bank accounts and such(which I'm all for if they can do this), I would caution Anon from a blanket disruption of internet.

It should be recalled that one high-level terrorists defected because he had access(given his status) to the FULL internet and came to a personal conclusion that radicalized Islam was wrong. Hence he defected.

What we need to do is somehow make available FULL internet access to Islamic radical/wannabes.

I do know that unauthorized internet access is subject to death in the radical world.

Depends what terrorists you are talking about, some it would not matter others like ISIL would hurt a lot if their propaganda websites would be hacked.

[CRYSiiSx2]

I find Anonymous, in concept to be absurd. They bother me

*edit for clarification*

Not to say ISIS is some upstanding wonderful thing. But if I had to pick one of these two groups of idiots to win I'm not picking the side who wear Guy Fawkes masks.

No, you would rather pick the side of rapists and murderers. The **** is wrong with you?

[pallidin]

ISIS, and all of it's associative/non-associative affiliates are a very grave danger to peaceful, common human life.

They have proven this, time and time again, and have ZERO desire to stop.

Good job, Anon, thank you for your proposed assistance, and kick them where it hurts as best you can. You can't do it alone, of course, so the rest of the world has already and will assist your efforts(in other ways) to stamp-out these putrid cockroaches...

Edited January 10, 2015 by pallidin

[Skep B]

No, you would rather pick the side of rapists and murderers. The **** is wrong with you?

Sure if you spin it that way, anything can sound bad.

**again, clarification**

If there's a "they both die in a fire" option I'm all for that.

Edited January 10, 2015 by Skep B

[Iron_Lotus]

you said it not him.

edit: or you can just say you're ok with teenagers dying in a fire because you dont like them. right on bud.

Edited January 10, 2015 by Iron_Lotus

[pallidin]

Huh... this is getting tense, but not too much.

I offer a musical interlude...