Anonymous Declares War on the Terrorists

[RavenHawk]

It's not as easy as just go get em....not when they've infiltrated the world over. They live everywhere...

Nobody is saying this is going to be easy but the longer we wait to take action, the harder it will be to stop it. That is why the invasion of Iraq was vital in establishing a foothold (but we’ve thrown that away for no reason). That’s physics and common sense. You don’t have to totally wipe them out, just dominate and subjugate them. That is what they are doing to us.

And what about the people who are being indoctrinated into their criminal sect... because of whatever hardships they've encounter ...

People are responsible for their own actions and will be held accountable.

They seem to be hate driven , people...obviously..

On the contrary. They are love driven for their culture and are very devout followers of the Quran which tells them how to keep their culture pure. It is us, the non believer and kafir that are the transgressor that causes mischief through the land preventing peace from being established.

I'm not saying anything ill about religion , cause they're not all about God and goodwill towards all...

We have to acknowledge that it is all about the religion but being critical of the religion is not saying anything ill about it. It’s demanding its members take action and stop enabling the terrorists. Is the New Years Day speech of al-Sisi showing a new direction or just more of the same (Taqiya & Kitman)?

There's no easy answer. But they need to be shut down from the internet , obviously... so why haven't they been ???

How are you going to shut them down from the internet? And if somehow they are, they still don’t need it to attack or even to communicate. In fact, it’ll be easier for them to take out our internet capability because we rely on it more.

New day New war... I place my trust in the cybermilitary soldiers, not anonymous....

Our cyber security is one of the best but it is not omnisentient. We deal with millions of hack attempts daily. All of us here have probably had our personal PC hacked by somebody and have never been aware of it. And it could have been because of reading and posting from this very forum. Don’t worry too much, most hackers aren’t looking for porn. The main targets are still military, government, and corporate.

[White Unicorn]

No, you would rather pick the side of rapists and murderers. The **** is wrong with you?

I guess he prefers the guys who would chop his head off instead of controlled shutting down his internet for a vigilante purpose?

[pallidin]

I hope the French(or whoever) authorities can capture the woman alive,

She likely knows some things.

[TheDarkerSide]

Go Get 'em boys!

[RavenHawk]

I hope the French(or whoever) authorities can capture the woman alive,

She likely knows some things.

If they do capture her alive, do you think the French will think twice before water boarding her or worse?

[pallidin]

If they do capture her alive, do you think the French will think twice before water boarding her or worse?

Nah, that has been shown to be ineffective.

[pallidin]

A prisoner, heavily mentally ingrained in an ideology can not be easily broken, especially if it involves physical distress. Think "martyr"

Their ideology itself must be attacked... this and only this will weaken the subject for further interrogation and revelation.

[shrooma]

All of us here have probably had our personal PC hacked by somebody and have never been aware of it. Don't worry too much, most hackers aren't looking for porn.

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*breathes massive sigh of relief*

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Edited January 11, 2015 by shrooma

[Occult1]

I hope the French(or whoever) authorities can capture the woman alive,

She likely knows some things.

The Kouachi brothers were already well known to the french authorities. I think they even figured on the United States' terrorists watchlist. They have made jail times and had criminal records. One of the brother, Chérif, gave a radio interview explaining why they did this and for whom before commiting suicide. There isn't much else to learn.

Edited January 11, 2015 by sam_comm

[Space Commander Travis]

If, as would appear to be the case, the Terrorists and the Jihadists are small groups that plan and operate in isolation and really wouldn't seem to need any central planning and communications, how would the supporters of free speech at Anynymous (pause for irony) expect to be able to shut down entire terrorist networks? If they simply plan and coordinate by mobile phone and Facebook and so on, for which they could easily switch accounts as much as they like, how could one launch a campaign of Cyber attacks on them? Anynymous seem to think in the same sort of way as the U.S. govt., that terrorist organisations have a central command bunker with a supercomputer coordinating operations and so in. I suppose it's too much Hollywood once again.

Besides, yes, i bet the Jihadists are going " " at a bunch of 14 yr olds in their bedrooms going "We will track you down - every last one - and will kill you" at them.

[SHaYap]

Well, Anon is going to be knocking on some wrong doors in the process and then the flim flam will go wham bang thank you ma'am ... the internet is also the prime method of how the Security Depts are keeping track of the highly dangerous members ~ even without the Net in turmoil the method has been proven to be far from perfect ~ with all this Anon nonsense things are going to be made tougher, somehow I don;t see the investigative intelligence Depts working and sharing info with Anon and that just means a whole bigger pile of stink for the rest of us that do rely on the net being clean and functioning as promised, nay, functioning as stipulated under contracts ...

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[Lilly]

I don't think any 14 year olds are going to be "tracking down and killing" ISIS and Al Quada. However, a bunch of 14 year olds could very well find out how/where these guys are getting their funding, screw with their bank accounts, send information to the CIA, mess with their internet propaganda, intrude on their planning ability....basically mess with them a la cyber-terrorism.

Edited January 11, 2015 by Lilly
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[Space Commander Travis]

But from how it would appear they operate the the jihadists don't need any sophisticated infrastructure to plan or coordinate activities, and how much of this fabled "incredible wealth" and sophisticated funding does it need to storm into an office wielding an Ak-47? Really I think we seem to be told that the terrorists are so sophisticated and well funded because it gives people an impression that something can be done to fight them.

[SHaYap]

Its all Hollywood logistics gone overboard I'm afraid ~ all in time for the end credits that nobody sits for or read ~

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[Yamato]

I don't think any 14 year olds are going to be "tracking down and killing" ISIS and Al Quada. However, a bunch of 14 year olds could very well find out how/where these guys are getting their funding, screw with their bank accounts, send information to the CIA, mess with their internet propaganda, intrude on their planning ability....basically mess with them a la cyber-terrorism.

And then they'll start doing all that same crap back to us. Only it'll hurt our feelings really badly when they do it.

And we'll all continue coming up with new and imaginative ways to attack one another, playing the same old game and paying the same old pot, going to Nowhere fast.

And we know where they're getting their funding from. In part from our own "allies", like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE.

I know where they are too, I don't need computer nerds for that one either. Israel is openly treating hundreds of wounded Syrian terrorists in hospitals. Oh wait, we decided we don't like that government anymore, so those grisly violent people aren't terrorists anymore, right.

This is all just madness. A manufactured collective contagion.

[libstaK]

Is anyone able to advise how many years Anonymous has actually been operating. I ask because I'm curious as to how many years these so called "14 year olds" have been 14 years old.

[Yamato]

Well, Anon is going to be knocking on some wrong doors in the process and then the flim flam will go wham bang thank you ma'am ... the internet is also the prime method of how the Security Depts are keeping track of the highly dangerous members ~ even without the Net in turmoil the method has been proven to be far from perfect ~ with all this Anon nonsense things are going to be made tougher, somehow I don;t see the investigative intelligence Depts working and sharing info with Anon and that just means a whole bigger pile of stink for the rest of us that do rely on the net being clean and functioning as promised, nay, functioning as stipulated under contracts ...

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I for one agree with you here. Why are they anonymous? So they're not held accountable for their actions. But we implicitly trust their impeccable targeting abilities so hey I'm probably wrong just like always. Their rhetoric sounds teenaged in this case, but I also have to drop a disclaimer and give Anon some praise for defending freedom, like the article that woodsbooger posted.

In the big picture though I think you're absolutely right. It's another brick in the wall.

[bee]

Why are they anonymous?

Duh

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[TSS]

Whilst the rallies anon attend is mainly made up of teenagers, there are are also a lot of extremely intelligent and clever adults involved with anon. I think they could surprise many with their abilities to disrupt links (albeit funding or general communications) within these groups. In fact,I'd go as far as to say that anon could be the start of a game changer of recent events.

[questionmark]

in related news:

Hackers from Anonymous take down French jihadist website

PARIS, Jan. 10 (UPI) -- The hacker-activist group Anonymous has launched a mission against Islamic extremists, and they recently temporarily took down a French jihadist website.

"Freedom of speech and opinion is a non-negotiable thing, to tackle it is to attack democracy," they wrote in the press release for #OpCharlieHebdo. "Expect a massive frontal reaction from us because the struggle for the defense of those freedoms is the foundation of our movement."

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/01/10/Hackers-from-Anonymous-take-down-French-jihadist-website-for-Operation-Charlie-Hebdo/6631420933489/#ixzz3OWSTOW3j

[Space Commander Travis]

Point to ponder: Is it in keeping with freedom of speech to take down any website, however reprehensible one might consider it?

[questionmark]

Freedom of speech would be to hijack some of the jihadist websites and put some anti-propaganda on it. Taking them down is just the start.

[Lilly]

Freedom of speech would be to hijack some of the jihadist websites and put some anti-propaganda on it. Taking them down is just the start.

Yep, I agree with you there.

[Lilly]

.... Why are they anonymous?

For the same reason 'The Sons of Liberty' were anonymous. To take a stand against injustice is often to put yourself in grave danger.

[Occult1]

For the same reason 'The Sons of Liberty' were anonymous. To take a stand against injustice is often to put yourself in grave danger.

Let alone the fact that hacking is illegal and liable to some serious jail time. Anonymous hackers have been caught before, one of them Jeremy Hammond has been sentenced to 10 years in jail + 3 years of supervised release in 2013. (see: http://www.theguardi...acker-sentenced) So, even under the cover of anonymity what they are doing is certainly not without risks.

Edited January 11, 2015 by sam_comm