Anonymous Declares War on the Terrorists

[SHaYap]

I for one agree with you here. Why are they anonymous? So they're not held accountable for their actions. But we implicitly trust their impeccable targeting abilities so hey I'm probably wrong just like always. Their rhetoric sounds teenaged in this case, but I also have to drop a disclaimer and give Anon some praise for defending freedom, like the article that woodsbooger posted.

In the big picture though I think you're absolutely right. It's another brick in the wall.

Taking down those sites that they claimed they are doing is a first step down a long dark alley, the sites are usually under heavy surveillance by the Security and Intelligence Departments ~ Interpol for one that I know of for sure ~ and if it interferes with an investigation of someone that is being tracked , and that someone pops up a few weeks down the line causing mayhem somewhere ~ well ... that's obstruction right there ~

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[SnakeProphet]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/03/dieudonne-banned-uk-nicolas-anelka-quenelle

For freedom of speech! Meanwhile, in germany, the same people who silenced satirical magazine "Titanic" are marching in a show of support. One of Charlie Hebdos own artists was bfired for an anti-semitic caricature. Ah, I love irony.

[pallidin]

The Kouachi brothers were already well known to the french authorities. I think they even figured on the United States' terrorists watchlist. They have made jail times and had criminal records. One of the brother, Chérif, gave a radio interview explaining why they did this and for whom before commiting suicide. There isn't much else to learn.

I was more referring to possible knowledge of other "sleeper cells"

[Hawken]

For now on I hope they focus their efforts on evil around the world instead of ordinary folks with paypal accounts.

[RavenHawk]

Point to ponder: Is it in keeping with freedom of speech to take down any website, however reprehensible one might consider it?

That’s a very open ended statement. “Freedom of speech” refers to preventing the government from infringing on the individual. Anon is more than likely individuals. It would be up to al Qaeda to bring a suit in civil court against them. But at the same time, we are at war with them and you’d have to weigh the immorality of allowing your enemy an advantage in attacking you.

[RavenHawk]

Nah, that has been shown to be ineffective.

On the contrary, it has shown to be very effective.

A prisoner, heavily mentally ingrained in an ideology can not be easily broken, especially if it involves physical distress. Think "martyr"

Exactly! That is why the need for enhanced techniques. Just because it isn’t going to be easy, doesn’t mean that it can’t be done.

Their ideology itself must be attacked... this and only this will weaken the subject for further interrogation and revelation.

And that is what is done.

[RavenHawk]

And then they'll start doing all that same crap back to us. Only it'll hurt our feelings really badly when they do it.

What do you think they have been doing? They’ve been pretty much number two on the depth chart of those actively attacking us right behind China.

And we'll all continue coming up with new and imaginative ways to attack one another, playing the same old game and paying the same old pot, going to Nowhere fast.

Well, that’s the only game in town. It has been the same story since recorded history. And I wouldn’t say that civilization has gone nowhere fast. It has made great strides because it keeps up with the game. When it doesn’t is when we fall into darkness.

And we know where they're getting their funding from. In part from our own "allies", like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE.

Intrigue and necessity make for strange bedfellows. As much as you may want to invade Saudi Arabia, the military option isn’t the only tool in the toolbox.

I know where they are too, I don't need computer nerds for that one either. Israel is openly treating hundreds of wounded Syrian terrorists in hospitals. Oh wait, we decided we don't like that government anymore, so those grisly violent people aren't terrorists anymore, right.

And that tickles you pink doesn’t it. Leave it up to you to go from Anon to Israel – bad.

This is all just madness.

Welcome to the Human race.

A manufactured collective contagion.

As would anything be, and you are part of it. And civilization will advance despite you.

[White Unicorn]

Is anyone able to advise how many years Anonymous has actually been operating. I ask because I'm curious as to how many years these so called "14 year olds" have been 14 years old.

The greatest hackers may have been gifted 14 years old, but they had information and access to adults with more powerful connections then the internet. Think of it like all the undiscovered "Snowden" like people in the other worldwide agencies who have taken a part but work behind scenes with anonymous.

[Yamato]

For the same reason 'The Sons of Liberty' were anonymous. To take a stand against injustice is often to put yourself in grave danger.

Well I won't present any counter-anecdotes because you'll run out of anecdotes a lot faster than I will. But stretching this logic, justice would become anonymous.

On balance I think the world is a better place WITH Anonymous in it than without. However, in this case, they've really raised the bar for themselves and not following through will damage their credibility forever. --> Don't cry wolf.

[Yamato]

What do you think they have been doing? They've been pretty much number two on the depth chart of those actively attacking us right behind China.

Source, please.

As much as you may want to invade Saudi Arabia, the military option isn’t the only tool in the toolbox.

Do you ever actually listen to anything I say?

And that tickles you pink doesn't it. Leave it up to you to go from Anon to Israel – bad.

How did you miss Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the UAE? From Anon to Israel? You're aware that Anonymous threatened to "Wipe Israel off the internet map." aren't you? While you're completely glossing over ISIS funding and aid from our "allies" of course. What strange bedfellows you keep, dude.

And civilization will advance despite you.

Well aren't you still the consummate gentleman on this forum?

Edited January 12, 2015 by Yamato

[RavenHawk]

Source, please.

From a security briefing a few years ago, so I don’t know how I should source that??

Do you ever actually listen to anything I say?

The few coherent parts. It’s not what you say. It’s what you are not aware of.

How did you miss Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the UAE? From Anon to Israel? You're aware that Anonymous threatened to "Wipe Israel off the internet map." aren't you? While you're completely glossing over ISIS funding and aid from our "allies" of course. What strange bedfellows you keep, dude.

Anon has threatened to wipe out a whole host of entities. Why did you find it so vital to only use Israel? I think that is the only reason you posted in the first place.

No one is completely glossing over the funding going to ISIS. It’s just not a simple world as you want to see it. Saudi Arabia is not just one entity. There are factions even among the family. Some factions are supporting ISIS but if we pull our support completely, ISIS could possibly get more support and we would lose the ability to have people on the inside. Yes indeed, strange bedfellows, but that’s how you stay on top of the game and gain the initiative. BTW, not having people on the inside means that interrogation methods will need to be more enhanced.

[Space Commander Travis]

So where were Anynynous when ISIS hacked into the facebook accounts of some U.S. military personnel? Slipped up there a bit didn't they.

[CRYSiiSx2]

I guess he prefers the guys who would chop his head off instead of controlled shutting down his internet for a vigilante purpose?

no excuse really. something is wrong in his head