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In 21st century UK a judge actually said this


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what about all those animals that don't bother with raising their children. by what you said in this quote, none of them ever reach adulthood.

Those animals don't have to pass on knowledge/training. So by my definition, with nothing needed to pass down, the age of sexual maturity would be adulthood. :tu:

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look up the Mormon genealogy site. you don't have to be a member of the church to use it.

http://www.archives....&utm_medium=cpc

Forgive me, but the Mormons don't have the best track records regarding marriages. Many Mormon "marriages" were/are not recognized.

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no, most people live by law not instinct. but, there are some who won't bother to rise that high. which is one reason we have criminals.

the jury found this man innocent of statuary rape.

As I said, he was still found guilty of a sex crime and his life is ruined to a greater, or lesser, degree. So good for him, getting to nail a young lady. And good for her for getting a fantasy fulfilled. If she's have waited a little longer, like people said, it wouldn't have been as big a deal.

It often has to be reminded to Americans that sex in Europe isn't an especially big deal. Sex is much more accepted there. In the US we have a similar viewpoint about violence. Where we consider a certain level of violence no big deal, like in Chicago. Whereas in Europe such violence levels would bring out the military to restore order.

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It's a minefield. I know some 14 year old with greater intelligence, vocabulary and maturity than some people aged 25+

I can envisage numerous situations where a younger person could manipulate, trick or take advantage of an older person irrespective of the age gap. Just because someone is 15 or 16 does not mean they are stupid just as being 44 is no guarantee of having good judgement.

At my high school, roughly 60% of the population were sexually active by the age of 16, many being open about thier activities. Most had partners who were within a two years of them in age. I fairly sure this is not an uncommon situation all around the world.

One girl was well know for having 5 partners by the time she was 17, she was caught several times in compromised situations with other pupils or older partners. It's not right in my view, it's a negative thing but she was more sexually experienced at 18 than many people in thier mid 20's.

Such a person would easily have the tools to distract somone of the opposite sex and more. But at the end of the day the law muse draw a line and the teacher should have known better, for all that I can see how he might have made an error of judgement during a time of stress.The ppunishment was appropriate.

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Those animals don't have to pass on knowledge/training. So by my definition, with nothing needed to pass down, the age of sexual maturity would be adulthood. :tu:

all meat eaters have to be taught how to kill. which is why a momma cat will bring a live mouse home so her babies can learn to kill. of course indoor cats don't have to worry about this lesson since they are provided with food.

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all meat eaters have to be taught how to kill. which is why a momma cat will bring a live mouse home so her babies can learn to kill. of course indoor cats don't have to worry about this lesson since they are provided with food.

Oh? All snakes, lizards, frogs, spiders and insects have to be taught to be carnivorous? I think many large carnivores are taught to Hunt, but killing and eating meat comes naturally to them.

Regardless this young lady was wrong to start her relationship with the teacher at age 15. Maybe they should have run off together to Germany, or France?

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Interesting reading....

http://en.wikipedia....nsent_in_Europe

I have to plead ignorance on the age of consent being 14 and 15 in so many nations. Spain has the age of consent at 13...

I suppose that begs the question of.... Is the age of consent when a person is considered an adult? Biologically an adult surely, but culturally and legally?

its 14 in utah, how ever if one is over 18, it is still statuary rape. some years ago, there were 5 16 year old boys and a 16 year old girl who made their own *spam filter*. they posted it. the police charged the 5 boys with making child porn, but did not charge the girl. i don't know what the outcome was.

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its 14 in utah, how ever if one is over 18, it is still statuary rape. some years ago, there were 5 16 year old boys and a 16 year old girl who made their own *spam filter*. they posted it. the police charged the 5 boys with making child porn, but did not charge the girl. i don't know what the outcome was.

Probably kids with their lives ruined and lawyers that are richer.

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Probably kids with their lives ruined and lawyers that are richer.

i think they should have charged the girl. the police said it was obvious that she was a willing participant in it.

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i think they should have charged the girl. the police said it was obvious that she was a willing participant in it.

I'm assuming they haven't charged her with anything yet, so that is still a future possibility.

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What on God's Grey Earth could they possibly charge her with? Is being a s l u t against the law in the UK? ...seriously...

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What on God's Grey Earth could they possibly charge her with? Is being a s l u t against the law in the UK? ...seriously...

There's probably several minor things she could easily be charged with, or sued over. Liable, Slander, Fraud... Conspiracy to do same....

I'm not saying there is a good case for anything, but a (poor) case could be made.

Section 5(2) Criminal Law Act 1977 [3] preserved the common law offence of conspiracy to defraud.

Conspiracy to defraud was defined in Scott v Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis[4] per Viscount Dilhorne:

"to defraud" ordinarily means … to deprive a person dishonestly of something which is his or of something to which he is or would or might but for the perpetration of the fraud be entitled.

"....an agreement by two or more [persons] by dishonesty to deprive a person of something which is his or to which he is or would be or might be entitled [or] an agreement by two or more by dishonesty to injure some proprietary right of his suffices to constitute the offence...."

Conspiracy to corrupt public morals or to outrage public decency[edit]

Section 5(3) Criminal Law Act 1977[5] preserved the common law offence of conspiracy tending to corrupt public morals or outrages public decency

Conspiracy to corrupt public morals is an offence under the common law of England and Wales.[6]

Conspiracy to outrage public decency is an offence under the common law of England and Wales.[7]

http://en.wikipedia....iracy_(criminal)

If there is any way to show she had this romance on purpose to get the teacher in trouble, there would be a case. NOT that I'm saying that is what she did. AFAIK she just was infatuated by the guy.

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Well, you may be right about all that...still...he erred greatly...but that being said:

I will just say this: Love is strange. Love is blindness. Love....it really doesn't discriminate against ages or races or sexes even...nonetheless...it is each our own duty to self to not let Love overcome our better senses....

...and that's a tough call sometimes...

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a **** is a prostitue it is her right to explore her sexuality, but it doesnt mean a teachr has the right to use that to his advantage

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ahhh .. Venus is drowning under her own tears ~

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Well, you may be right about all that...still...he erred greatly...but that being said:

I will just say this: Love is strange. Love is blindness. Love....it really doesn't discriminate against ages or races or sexes even...nonetheless...it is each our own duty to self to not let Love overcome our better senses....

...and that's a tough call sometimes...

this wasn't love it was lust, on both of their behalves.

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