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Why do you think the ability to decipher a message would be linked to empathy? They may by some very logical cold b*******.....

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Badeskov

A threat or not doesn't really matter to me. It is very unlikely that they could travel here either way. Why would they travel here to kill people that sent radio signals hundreds of years ago?

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A threat or not doesn't really matter to me. It is very unlikely that they could travel here either way. Why would they travel here to kill people that sent radio signals hundreds of years ago?

Oh, I completely agree with you. I was just trying to understand why there would be an alleged link between the ability to travel here and empathy - I just do not see that.

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Badeskov

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Oh, I completely agree with you. I was just trying to understand why there would be an alleged link between the ability to travel here and empathy - I just do not see that.

Cheers,

Badeskov

but again, that's not what i said. i said that both conditions might exist. i did not say that one was dependent on the other. i realize my sentence up there wasn't worded the best, but that's what i was trying to say.

i'm just arguing that the idea that aliens would want to kill us is based on a flawed premise. the idea that they wouldn't is also imperfect, but it seems to occur to people less often.

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but again, that's not what i said. i said that both conditions might exist. i did not say that one was dependent on the other. i realize my sentence up there wasn't worded the best, but that's what i was trying to say.

i'm just arguing that the idea that aliens would want to kill us is based on a flawed premise. the idea that they wouldn't is also imperfect, but it seems to occur to people less often.

Ah, ok. My apologies. Thanks for the clarification.

Cheers,

Badeskov

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If I was an alien leader receiving a message from off-planet , assuming I could understand it, and I knew where it came from and how recently, and I could send personnel to the origin, I would send the scientists before the military. Exchange information with them, study them (humanely and with permission, not the abduct and implant method), and generally get to know their culture and science. I wouldn't respond to "If you're there, we want to meet you" with my biggest, most blowy-uppy guns. Actually, the scientists should probably have a military escort, just in case, but my first plan wouldn't be domination.

Now that I think about it, if I was an ordinary Earthling leader, I would do the same thing.

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nah, everyone knows that aliens are big into old school hip hop. they'll be coming here looking for grandmaster flash and the sugarhill gang

What a "message" ;)

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Hunger? Deadly animals? Illness?

Is that fact or personal opinion?

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Is that fact or personal opinion?

You think it is opinion that 5000 years ago humans faced hunger, deadly animal attacks and illness?

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Is that fact or personal opinion?

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Just like the movies Oblivion, Independence Day, etc, etc.

This is dangerous.

And, of course, never forget the classic: How to Serve Man (Twilight Zone)

There just movies, reality is much more terrifying! Hey , I might just try to eat one of them.......Hmmmmmmm

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I can't really see what the Earth would provide ,that can't be obtained without force, by an advanced civilisation ?

The Earth itself... a nice cosy planet to move in to.

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why?

honestly, i don't understand this. if we can imagine aliens intelligent enough to receive and decipher a message, why can't we imagine that they might also be capable of empathy? why do we always assume that they'll want to destroy us?

it's never made sense to me.

Well... the old saying is 'hope for the best, but prepare for the worst'.

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In order to be a threat to us, a supposed hostile extraterrestrial species would need to have the ability to travel interstellar distances. Such a level of technical development would also presumably allow them to receive our routine radio, radar, and television transmissions, which is a less demanding technical feat.

We already know that it is possible to use the gravitational focusing effect of the local star to receive such transmissions from across the galaxy.

The fact that we have not been conquered or destroyed by hostile ETs, some of which presumably have a million or billion year head start on us, seems to argue strongly against this danger.

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If the potential aliens are at the same technology level as us, they won't be able to send their big kaboomies over anyway. This could turn into a phone conversation with forty years of silence between messages.

"If you're there, pick up."--twenty years of transmission--"You have reached the Gorb%plx)22; planet. Please leave a message after the tone."--twenty years of transmission, unknown number of years of translation--"Hi, this is SETI on Earth. Anytime you want to get together for an drink, get to know each other, give us a call."

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