Myles Posted February 10, 2015 #51 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Why do you think the ability to decipher a message would be linked to empathy? They may by some very logical cold b*******..... Cheers, Badeskov A threat or not doesn't really matter to me. It is very unlikely that they could travel here either way. Why would they travel here to kill people that sent radio signals hundreds of years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted February 10, 2015 #52 Share Posted February 10, 2015 A threat or not doesn't really matter to me. It is very unlikely that they could travel here either way. Why would they travel here to kill people that sent radio signals hundreds of years ago? Oh, I completely agree with you. I was just trying to understand why there would be an alleged link between the ability to travel here and empathy - I just do not see that. Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaturtlehorsesnake Posted February 10, 2015 #53 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Oh, I completely agree with you. I was just trying to understand why there would be an alleged link between the ability to travel here and empathy - I just do not see that. Cheers, Badeskov but again, that's not what i said. i said that both conditions might exist. i did not say that one was dependent on the other. i realize my sentence up there wasn't worded the best, but that's what i was trying to say. i'm just arguing that the idea that aliens would want to kill us is based on a flawed premise. the idea that they wouldn't is also imperfect, but it seems to occur to people less often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted February 10, 2015 #54 Share Posted February 10, 2015 but again, that's not what i said. i said that both conditions might exist. i did not say that one was dependent on the other. i realize my sentence up there wasn't worded the best, but that's what i was trying to say. i'm just arguing that the idea that aliens would want to kill us is based on a flawed premise. the idea that they wouldn't is also imperfect, but it seems to occur to people less often. Ah, ok. My apologies. Thanks for the clarification. Cheers, Badeskov 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theotherguy Posted February 10, 2015 #55 Share Posted February 10, 2015 If I was an alien leader receiving a message from off-planet , assuming I could understand it, and I knew where it came from and how recently, and I could send personnel to the origin, I would send the scientists before the military. Exchange information with them, study them (humanely and with permission, not the abduct and implant method), and generally get to know their culture and science. I wouldn't respond to "If you're there, we want to meet you" with my biggest, most blowy-uppy guns. Actually, the scientists should probably have a military escort, just in case, but my first plan wouldn't be domination. Now that I think about it, if I was an ordinary Earthling leader, I would do the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 11, 2015 #56 Share Posted February 11, 2015 nah, everyone knows that aliens are big into old school hip hop. they'll be coming here looking for grandmaster flash and the sugarhill gang What a "message" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted February 11, 2015 #57 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Or ? "IS it SAFE?" IS it ? Edited February 11, 2015 by DONTEATUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Cooper Merrin Posted February 11, 2015 #58 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Hunger? Deadly animals? Illness? Is that fact or personal opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted February 11, 2015 #59 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Is that fact or personal opinion? You think it is opinion that 5000 years ago humans faced hunger, deadly animal attacks and illness? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted February 11, 2015 #60 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Is that fact or personal opinion? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximusnow Posted February 11, 2015 #61 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Just like the movies Oblivion, Independence Day, etc, etc. This is dangerous. And, of course, never forget the classic: How to Serve Man (Twilight Zone) There just movies, reality is much more terrifying! Hey , I might just try to eat one of them.......Hmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occams Razor Posted February 12, 2015 #62 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) I can't really see what the Earth would provide ,that can't be obtained without force, by an advanced civilisation ? The Earth itself... a nice cosy planet to move in to. Edited February 12, 2015 by Occams Razor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occams Razor Posted February 12, 2015 #63 Share Posted February 12, 2015 why? honestly, i don't understand this. if we can imagine aliens intelligent enough to receive and decipher a message, why can't we imagine that they might also be capable of empathy? why do we always assume that they'll want to destroy us? it's never made sense to me. Well... the old saying is 'hope for the best, but prepare for the worst'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted February 12, 2015 #64 Share Posted February 12, 2015 In order to be a threat to us, a supposed hostile extraterrestrial species would need to have the ability to travel interstellar distances. Such a level of technical development would also presumably allow them to receive our routine radio, radar, and television transmissions, which is a less demanding technical feat. We already know that it is possible to use the gravitational focusing effect of the local star to receive such transmissions from across the galaxy. The fact that we have not been conquered or destroyed by hostile ETs, some of which presumably have a million or billion year head start on us, seems to argue strongly against this danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theotherguy Posted February 12, 2015 #65 Share Posted February 12, 2015 If the potential aliens are at the same technology level as us, they won't be able to send their big kaboomies over anyway. This could turn into a phone conversation with forty years of silence between messages. "If you're there, pick up."--twenty years of transmission--"You have reached the Gorb%plx)22; planet. Please leave a message after the tone."--twenty years of transmission, unknown number of years of translation--"Hi, this is SETI on Earth. Anytime you want to get together for an drink, get to know each other, give us a call." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigbang Posted March 30, 2015 #66 Share Posted March 30, 2015 If we do get a answer,we mite have thousands of illegal aliens coming here for welfare and our jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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