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Could the 'Thunderbird' be a real creature ?


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It's difficult to estimate the size and distance of objects in the sky. Most people don't realize an aspirin held at arms length will cover the moon.

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It's difficult to estimate the size and distance of objects in the sky. Most people don't realize an aspirin held at arms length will cover the moon.

Aspirin? I'll try that. I've always heard it was a quarter ($0.25US coin for all of you ferners)...hmmm, come to think of it, I've never tried that myself either.

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The hands are always a dead giveaway

Ironically, the hands in close up we're often real hands ;)

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And maybe these people actually saw what they said they saw.

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Wasn't he an original Uncanny x-men who was red-shirted pretty quick after the reboot?

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Ford-Thunderbird-1962.jpg

I found a picture of this mythic beast.

I believe it fed mostly on petroleum distillate.

So you have had the mythical Thunderbird photo all this time and you have only just decided to share it with us... :passifier:

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And maybe these people actually saw what they said they saw.

Unfortunately this explanation has no real evidence to be supported. We have no reason to believe that huge birds ever existed to that scale.

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Look on the bright side. Imagine the omelets.

Harte

Imagine the poor statues!

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Great question, OP, and I would say if anyone wants to ponder the existence of the Thunderbird, one must accept the fact that it must have some "special ability/power" to totally evade people, somewhat akin to bigfoot, only in the TBird's case, it is even more obvious that such a huge creature cannot live in our skies without being detected.

it's a tough one.

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Giantism does happen throughout the animal kingdom although rare. You get huge people, huge dogs, huge rabbits etc etc.

Could the sightings actually have been real and they were just well known species in the area that were unusually large?

Once I saw an over sized vulture. Where I am there are only black vultures and turkey vultures, but this one had a featherless purplish black head and crooked neck. It was a great deal larger than anything I had ever saw.

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Once I saw an over sized vulture. Where I am there are only black vultures and turkey vultures, but this one had a featherless purplish black head and crooked neck. It was a great deal larger than anything I had ever saw.

Was it possibly a turkey?

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The sizes and wingspans will be exagerated but it probably is real.Just no where as big as it's made out to be. Obviously it wont have a 14ft wingspan. more like a 4ft wingspan.

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The sizes and wingspans will be exagerated but it probably is real.Just no where as big as it's made out to be. Obviously it wont have a 14ft wingspan. more like a 4ft wingspan.

The shadow on the ground may have been over 14 ft.

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The shadow on the ground may have been over 14 ft.

The cat I had as a kid "may" have had laser vision. But, because there is no proof, maybes are irrelevant. Do we have any reason to believe that there was a four metre shadow, beyond "hey, maybe it happened"?

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Unfortunately this explanation has no real evidence to be supported. We have no reason to believe that huge birds ever existed to that scale.

No real evidence yes, but it is still possible. Do we have a full record of every creature that has lived on this planet? No, just the ones we've found. Is it likely that a bird that big could have existed with modern man and not have been reported on more than a handfull of times? No, not in my opinion. But it's not impossible. And dino birdies got pretty big. Not 100 ft big, (about 35ft being around the largest wingspan if memory serves) but you've got to allow for some give for poetic lisence in cases like this. Over time, stories can be built up on and the truth burried.

I like the mystery behind this one, I like that loads of people think they've seen a photo of it. Lots of people have spent alot of time and effort trying to find it, it's the holy grail of ornithology porn.

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No real evidence yes, but it is still possible. Do we have a full record of every creature that has lived on this planet? No, just the ones we've found. Is it likely that a bird that big could have existed with modern man and not have been reported on more than a handfull of times? No, not in my opinion. But it's not impossible. And dino birdies got pretty big. Not 100 ft big, (about 35ft being around the largest wingspan if memory serves) but you've got to allow for some give for poetic lisence in cases like this. Over time, stories can be built up on and the truth burried.

I like the mystery behind this one, I like that loads of people think they've seen a photo of it. Lots of people have spent alot of time and effort trying to find it, it's the holy grail of ornithology porn.

Take a look at the second post in this thread, where I say basically the same thing you just did. I agree that it is possible, in theory, but the statement of "maybe these people saw what they said they saw" is a much too simple conclusion to draw, as it assumes that everyone who has ever reported a thunderbird did, in fact, see a giant bird. I do not think that everyone who reports a thunderbird has, in fact, seen a giant bird. I'm not writing off the remote, remote possibility that thunderbirds MAY have existed once in the distant past, but to attribute modern sightings to an undiscovered giant bird with a four-metre wingspan? I can't do it without evidence.

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The cat I had as a kid "may" have had laser vision. But, because there is no proof, maybes are irrelevant. Do we have any reason to believe that there was a four metre shadow, beyond "hey, maybe it happened"?

I'm agreeing with you. I just stated that the shadow may have been over 14 ft because we all know how large a shadow can be of just a small object.

Suppose a hawk with a 4 ft wingspan passed fairly low over a couple kids on a sunny day. The shadow may have been 14-18 ft long which would have scared the crap out of them. Then when they looked up and saw the bird, they would already be thinking it was bigger than it was.

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I'm agreeing with you. I just stated that the shadow may have been over 14 ft because we all know how large a shadow can be of just a small object.

Suppose a hawk with a 4 ft wingspan passed fairly low over a couple kids on a sunny day. The shadow may have been 14-18 ft long which would have scared the crap out of them. Then when they looked up and saw the bird, they would already be thinking it was bigger than it was.

Ah, okay, I understand. Sorry, I totally didn't get what you were intending. My mistake. Yes, this is a very believable situation; shadows are strange and can only rarely be used to accurately judge the size of an object, especially one that is in motion.

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Was it possibly a turkey?

Hardly. I've hunted enough turkey to know the difference. What I saw flew out of a dilapidated building in the woods. The big vulture then perched itself on a tree bough around 12' above my head. Keep in mind when I state big, it wasn't monstrous, but larger than our two species here. A freak or mutant perhaps.

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...it's the holy grail of ornithology porn.

I'm unfamiliar with ornithology porn, but that's funny as hell anyway :rofl:

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Hardly. I've hunted enough turkey to know the difference. What I saw flew out of a dilapidated building in the woods. The big vulture then perched itself on a tree bough around 12' above my head. Keep in mind when I state big, it wasn't monstrous, but larger than our two species here. A freak or mutant perhaps.

He's just well-fed. Probably from eating turkey.

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He's just well-fed. Probably from eating turkey.

Don't forget the cranberry sauce and green bean casserole for your off topic feasting pleasure.

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Don't forget the cranberry sauce and green bean casserole for your off topic feasting pleasure.

LOL. Though I'm not actually posting-off topic. I'm trying to keep this light-hearted.

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