questionmark Posted March 9, 2015 #1 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Now, we would like to hear some I-am-sorrys for those saying that it was all NATO's fault. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted March 9, 2015 #2 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Today in news that surprises no one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 9, 2015 #3 Share Posted March 9, 2015 wow, imagine that, who knew, lamo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted March 9, 2015 #4 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Br Cornelius Posted March 9, 2015 #5 Share Posted March 9, 2015 This really changes none of the facts on the ground. Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theotherguy Posted March 9, 2015 #6 Share Posted March 9, 2015 And in related news, the sky is blue, the Pope is Catholic, and bears do whatever they want in the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Raven Posted March 10, 2015 #7 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Eitherway Crimea is part of Russia again now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted March 10, 2015 #8 Share Posted March 10, 2015 And...... Of course some words are put out into the electronic ether, but nothing is done to stop the bully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patient Zero Posted March 10, 2015 #9 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Does anyone expect less from the puppet master of the USSR? i mean Russia, yeah, Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleplen Posted March 10, 2015 #10 Share Posted March 10, 2015 And you did not try to talk with the residents of the Crimea? what do you all so gullible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted March 10, 2015 #11 Share Posted March 10, 2015 And you did not try to talk with the residents of the Crimea? what do you all so gullible? Is this a feeble attempt to defend him? We'll just pop over there and see how many people we can discuss it with before the Putin heavies get involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleplen Posted March 10, 2015 #12 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I'm trying to protect the choice of the Crimea. You will not be considered. Have you ever heard of one Crimean resident? I hide in the Crimea their children, and I know what happened and is happening in the Crimea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted March 10, 2015 #13 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I'm trying to protect the choice of the Crimea. You will not be considered. Have you ever heard of one Crimean resident? I hide in the Crimea their children, and I know what happened and is happening in the Crimea. Well, they got invaded by the Russian army. So what choice did that give them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted March 10, 2015 #14 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Now, we would like to hear some I-am-sorrys for those saying that it was all NATO's fault. In a way, it is NATO's fault. If not for NATO, Ukraine would still be a Soviet Socialist Republic. And so would Poland, and Germany, and France, and ... Harte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleplen Posted March 10, 2015 #15 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Well, they got invaded by the Russian army. So what choice did that give them? You do not hear me again, Go to any forum of the Crimea, and write about the occurrence of the Russian army in the Crimea. I am sure that many curses, in his address, you have not heard. Go ahead. http://forum.sevastopol.info/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=808897&start=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Br Cornelius Posted March 10, 2015 #16 Share Posted March 10, 2015 In a way, it is NATO's fault. If not for NATO, Ukraine would still be a Soviet Socialist Republic. And so would Poland, and Germany, and France, and ... Harte Your a fortune teller now. Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted March 10, 2015 #17 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Eeenie meenie chili beanie... Harte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 10, 2015 #18 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Crimean Tatars say Russian annexation has brought fear and repression all over again http://www.washingto...751a_story.html http://romaninukrain...ballots-marked/ http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/12/article-2579012-1C33181A00000578-79_634x422.jpg You can't not see moskow hands all over it. Edited March 10, 2015 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted March 10, 2015 #19 Share Posted March 10, 2015 You do not hear me again, Go to any forum of the Crimea, and write about the occurrence of the Russian army in the Crimea. I am sure that many curses, in his address, you have not heard. Go ahead. http://forum.sevastopol.info/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=808897&start=0 Links to foreign language websites. Good way of terminating a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenceMinisterMishkin Posted March 10, 2015 #20 Share Posted March 10, 2015 How could he have planned it when he spends his free time riding wild bears! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted March 10, 2015 #21 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Now, we would like to hear some I-am-sorrys for those saying that it was all NATO's fault. Your clutching at straws, The moment the EU hinted at possible future EU membership in the form of the Association agreement for Ukraine and with that possible future NATO membership - plans by Russia would have been drawn up in the event of what to do over Ukraine and especially Crimea these plans would go back over a decade. Listen i knew Russia would never allow Crimea to be in EU Hands. I even posted about it on here before the Ukrainian crisis even hinted at kicking off. IF i knew this then without doubt so did our political masters. - They knew full well what Crimea means to Russia. But in their wisdom they decided the Risk versus Reward was worth it. - So they pressed ahead and its at this point they catastrophically miscalculated Russian reaction. The EU/West where using outdated blue prints from the accession of the former soviet states in the Baltics into the EU, - the EU was a decade behind the times. leading to the misjudgement we see today. Its the long term strategic planning by Russia dating back long before Crimea was annexed that means today Russia holds all the cards, This is what gives rise to Russia being labelled the best chess players in geopolitics bar none. Its this planning which sees Russia as the master of policy and the EU/West don't know how to counter it. they can only react, by the time they react Russia has made two or three moves ahead of the EU/West. The tricky part for the West/EU is trying to get one move ahead of Russia, they do this and Russia will struggle to counter and the balance of power will shift. - But i cant see that happening. not in Russia's backyard and all the complexity that goes with the History. Bottom line is EU/NATO dont hint and Ukrainian membership and non of this happens. - Dont forget why the EU/West acted so fast as well, they in their self interest wanted Ukraine in the European Union and not Russia's Eurasian Union. see the crisis for what it really is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted March 10, 2015 #22 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Very little consequences for such a fine piece of real estate. Perhaps the USA should look at what nearby nations/islands have populations that include US citizens? Apparently if you have citizens there, you can just annex parts of other nations. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted March 11, 2015 #23 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I vote we take Canada. They don't deserve all those Muskies anyway. Plus, unlike the Muskies, they won't put up much of a fight. Harte 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanato Posted March 11, 2015 #24 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I vote we take Canada. They don't deserve all those Muskies anyway. Plus, unlike the Muskies, they won't put up much of a fight. Harte Come to Canada... Wait for winter and a combined arms assault with mounted moose cavalry will be charging you a cross the tundra! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted March 11, 2015 #25 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Very little consequences for such a fine piece of real estate. Perhaps the USA should look at what nearby nations/islands have populations that include US citizens? Apparently if you have citizens there, you can just annex parts of other nations. You guys can have Toronto if you want, hell... we'll even throw in the other half of Niagra Falls (the 'best' half). Edited March 11, 2015 by Likely Guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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