Donald Trump Enters 2016 Presidential Race

[Yamato]

I can't stand Trump "the man", I think he's potentially dangerous, and I don't think he'll be the "saviour" many Americans anticipate.

On the flip side though, it would be absolute folly to ignore what he is saying, and simply dismiss his popularity as "cult of personality." People around the globe are tired of being told how to think. Trump's centre stage in the U.S. for feelings that are growing on a daily basis around the Western world.

People are sick of being told how to think and what to say, who and what we have to integrate with. There was a common sense line at some point, where there was a genuine reason to fight against discrimination based on ethnicity, gender, etc. but that line has long since been blurred by political correctness gone mad. Ironically, I think "thought control" is a bigger issue than gun control in today's America. Equally so with other supposedly democratic nations around the world.

I welcome the damage he's done to the GOP and I will appreciate more of the same for the Democrats starting in June after the Republican unity convention turns into another bow and submit performance to Trump with a dangling little party favor that gives them the perception they're being treated fairly.*

* See Hamas

Maybe the GOP can convince Trump to pick the biggest liar he's ever met as a running mate and Ted Cruz will be the meaningless gift that shuts them up.

[Yamato]

I can't stand Trump "the man", I think he's potentially dangerous, and I don't think he'll be the "saviour" many Americans anticipate.

On the flip side though, it would be absolute folly to ignore what he is saying, and simply dismiss his popularity as "cult of personality." People around the globe are tired of being told how to think. Trump's centre stage in the U.S. for feelings that are growing on a daily basis around the Western world.

People are sick of being told how to think and what to say, who and what we have to integrate with. There was a common sense line at some point, where there was a genuine reason to fight against discrimination based on ethnicity, gender, etc. but that line has long since been blurred by political correctness gone mad. Ironically, I think "thought control" is a bigger issue than gun control in today's America. Equally so with other supposedly democratic nations around the world.

I agree, but I can't draw a line from that to Donald Trump. I fail to see how anything Rosie O'Donnell thought in her harmless comedy impersonation of Trump warranted a thought-control lawsuit. Trump isn't eradicating thought control, he's introducing new more exciting ways of implementing it. He's also telling people what to think, as if he has a clue, because he's full of bad ideas.

I also agree it'd be folly to ignore what Trump is saying or what any Presidential candidate is saying and while I'm not immersed in Trump's every word, I'm far from ignoring him. I think my opinion is an educated one, but maybe I'm missing something. I've paid far more attention to the devil I don't know than the devil I do.

[acidhead]

I welcome the damage he's done to the GOP and I will appreciate more of the same for the Democrats starting in June after the Republican unity convention turns into another bow and submit performance to Trump with a dangling little party favor that gives them the perception they're being treated fairly.*

* See Hamas

Maybe the GOP can convince Trump to pick the biggest liar he's ever met as a running mate and Ted Cruz will be the meaningless gift that shuts them up.

Actually picking Cruz would be a wise choice if by a miracle Trump wins. Think of the VP slot as an insurance policy. It's doubtful many would consider assassinating Trump if it meant Cruz as his replacement.

[ellapenella]

I just wanna high five Donald Trump on this...

[Yamato]

Actually picking Cruz would be a wise choice if by a miracle Trump wins. Think of the VP slot as an insurance policy. It's doubtful many would consider assassinating Trump if it meant Cruz as his replacement.

Wise politics only matters when you have a favorite for the sake of the country. But are assassins generally not Christian friendly, or is there another problem with Cruz they wouldn't have with Trump? I don't know what the motive is to consider such an insurance policy.

[Merc14]

I agree, but I can't draw a line from that to Donald Trump. I fail to see how anything Rosie O'Donnell thought in her harmless comedy impersonation of Trump warranted a thought-control lawsuit. Trump isn't eradicating thought control, he's introducing new more exciting ways of implementing it. He's also telling people what to think, as if he has a clue, because he's full of bad ideas.

I also agree it'd be folly to ignore what Trump is saying or what any Presidential candidate is saying and while I'm not immersed in Trump's every word, I'm far from ignoring him. I think my opinion is an educated one, but maybe I'm missing something. I've paid far more attention to the devil I don't know than the devil I do.

Do you think Donald Trump can control minds?

[F3SS]

Alright people it's time for a laugh. Don't pass this up.

[LV-426]

Do you think Donald Trump can control minds?

A quick google and a Trump meme is but seconds away in these days of technologification!

[Yamato]

Do you think Donald Trump can control minds?

I wouldn't put it that way. I think he's a strong leader and many people are natural followers.

[Merc14]

I wouldn't put it that way. I think he's a strong leader and many people are natural followers.

Not really the same as mind control is it? I guess you prefer presidents who are poor leaders with terrible public speaking skills like this guy.

[Likely Guy]

If there was a Zombie Lincoln how many people would vote for him? I bet he'd win as an independent and mop the floors at every debate.

At any time in history America needs a smart leader, like just before the Civil War.

[Deleted]

I wouldn't put it that way. I think he's a strong leader and many people are natural followers.

He is not a great leader, he is the embodiment of a failed leader, unless of course a little spoiled brat is your definition of strong Also, Id say his followers are to blame, since people like Trump always will exist still it is the choice of the people to pick them or not. Also people should lead themselves and therefore the president should speak on the behave of their will. However Trump follower lack a will..... do u see the vicious circle here

Edited March 24, 2016 by hellwyr

[Merc14]

He is not a great leader, he is the embodiment of a failed leader,

In what way does he embody a failed leader? Is it the thousands of people that flock to his rallies in every city that illustrate his lack of leadership skills or his pulling people form the democrats?

unless of course a little spoiled brat is your definition of strong Also, Id say his followers are to blame, since people like Trump always will exist still it is the choice of the people to pick them or not. Also people should lead themselves and therefore the president should speak on the behave of their will. However Trump follower lack a will..... do u see the vicious circle here

So all the millions that have voted for Trump are simply ignorant morons who lack a will? Don't you think that the answer may be a bit more complex than your angry, hate filled, leftist reasoning makes it out to be?

[Deleted]

I blame their parents which raised them and partly the society they live in, but that would be too long to elaborate, so that's the short versiob

[Merc14]

I blame their parents which raised them and partly the society they live in, but that would be too long to elaborate, so that's the short versiob

Yeah, why go into details and think something through when you can simply label them all weak willed followers of a failed leader. Maybe the failures of the federal government over the last 30 years culminating in the disastrous administration of Obama with its divisive, self destructive proclivities, has created a seriously angry electorate who isn't buying the same old, same old any longer, hence Trump and Sanders. .

[Deleted]

Nope Sanders voters are reasonable, Trump voters aren't, since they react on emotional arguments and only react to fear and anger, they support torture deathpenalty and a useless wall, all in all they turn their own shortcomings onto others..

[Space Commander Travis]

So all the millions that have voted for Trump are simply ignorant morons who lack a will? Don't you think that the answer may be a bit more complex than your angry, hate filled, leftist reasoning makes it out to be?

Basically yes, he's said before that they're probably mentally ill.

[Merc14]

Nope Sanders voters are reasonable, Trump voters aren't, since they react on emotional arguments and only react to fear and anger, they support torture deathpenalty and a useless wall, all in all they turn their own shortcomings onto others..

LMAO. Are you sure you aren't ninjadude? Someone check his ISP address. Thanks for the post, it served my purposes perfectly.

[Farmer77]

In what way does he embody a failed leader? Is it the thousands of people that flock to his rallies in every city that illustrate his lack of leadership skills or his pulling people form the democrats?

So all the millions that have voted for Trump are simply ignorant morons who lack a will? Don't you think that the answer may be a bit more complex than your angry, hate filled, leftist reasoning makes it out to be?

Im certainly not going to lump all voters for any candidate into one group.

I will say though that Trump is if not a failed leader his track record makes him a seriously questionable one. Dudes gone bankrupt multiple times, borrowed money from islamic royalty, and (i have not confirmed this) would reportedly be much richer had he simply left daddy's money in a bank account to collect interest rather than feed his ego.

As for voters lacking will, im a "conspiracy theorist" , I openly admit that. That said this nation has been groomed for the last 8 years to have a right wing fanatic voted into office. .

While its not a matter of "trump voters not having free will" I will say that for many if not most (this is true of all voters not just trump fans) it is a problem of ignorance. Tell the average trump voter that Obama has actually bombed more nations than bush did and they don't believe you. Tell the average trump voter that more Mexicans are leaving this nation than entering (facts) and they dont believe you. Tell the average trump voter that prior to Obamacare we all already paid for the poor's healthcare via overinflated pricing and they dont believe you.

All of the above is a result of media and governmental manipulation. So while the average trump voter does have free will, the deck has been stacked against them when it comes to their ability to actually execute it.

[.ZZ.]

Nope Sanders voters are reasonable, Trump voters aren't, since they react on emotional arguments and only react to fear and anger, they support torture deathpenalty and a useless wall, all in all they turn their own shortcomings onto others..

Oh man, please stop...you're killing me LOL

Where do you get this stuff? LOL

What a narrow outlook you must have.

Broad stroke generalities over and over again.

Please share how "Sanders voters are reasonable"

It's not as black and white as you would have us believe. Some Trump voters feel one way about an issue where others might not feel the same way.

Sanders voters also vary in their ideals just like all humans do.

Why must you pigeon hole everyone into 2 convenient boxes?

[Merc14]

Im certainly not going to lump all voters for any candidate into one group.

But you will anyways before the end of this post.

I will say though that Trump is if not a failed leader his track record makes him a seriously questionable one. Dudes gone bankrupt multiple times,

Do you understand how bankruptcy works in business? It is a restructuring of debt in most cases so that the business can survive to earn another day. This si a very weak attack on tTrump that works miracles with the low information folks. The fact that you have bought into it well, you explain it.

borrowed money from islamic royalty,

Umm, so what? Honestly, this is the first time I have seen this ridiculous attack. DO you know how much money the Saudis have invested in the US? Honestly farmer, this is just plain stupid.

and (i have not confirmed this) would reportedly be much richer had he simply left daddy's money in a bank account to collect interest rather than feed his ego.

Yeah, maybe you should confirm before posting.

As for voters lacking will, im a "conspiracy theorist" , I openly admit that. That said this nation has been groomed for the last 8 years to have a right wing fanatic voted into office. .

Wow, another new one! So this CT suggest that Barack Hussein Obama, known radical progressive has done all his dirt in order to get a right wing fanatic voted into office after him. Why on earth would the moron want that?

While its not a matter of "trump voters not having free will" I will say that for many if not most (this is true of all voters not just trump fans) it is a problem of ignorance.

Just reread this post and can't agree more.

Tell the average trump voter that Obama has actually bombed more nations than bush did and they don't believe you. Tell the average trump voter that more Mexicans are leaving this nation than entering (facts) and they dont believe you. Tell the average trump voter that prior to Obamacare we all already paid for the poor's healthcare via overinflated pricing and they dont believe you.

Yeah well it isn't so much the number of countries bombed as the complete lack of positive results. Also, the mere statement "Obama has actually bombed more nations than bush did" is a meaningless statement that wouldn't be known to very many people at all. Why would it? Clinton dropped a lot of bombs on empty targets too with little effect, is that supposed to assuage someone's angst concerning America's loss of face in the world? As far as Obamacare PLEASE! you don't fix a broken system by breaking it further and doubling down on stupid.

All of the above is a result of media and governmental manipulation. So while the average trump voter does have free will, the deck has been stacked against them when it comes to their ability to actually execute it.

No, all of the above is about cherry picking facts and placing them ina n out of context way that you makes you look intelligent. It is easily picked apart and below the surface is meaningless. As a CT it is a particularly poor one

[Farmer77]

But you will anyways before the end of this post.

Do you understand how bankruptcy works in business? It is a restructuring of debt in most cases so that the business can survive to earn another day. This si a very weak attack on tTrump that works miracles with the low information folks. The fact that you have bought into it well, you explain it.

Umm, so what? Honestly, this is the first time I have seen this ridiculous attack. DO you know how much money the Saudis have invested in the US? Honestly farmer, this is just plain stupid.

Yeah, maybe you should confirm before posting.

Wow, another new one! So this CT suggest that Barack Hussein Obama, known radical progressive has done all his dirt in order to get a right wing fanatic voted into office after him. Why on earth would the moron want that?

Just reread this post and can't agree more.

Yeah well it isn't so much the number of countries bombed as the complete lack of positive results. Also, the mere statement "Obama has actually bombed more nations than bush did" is a meaningless statement that wouldn't be known to very many people at all. Why would it? Clinton dropped a lot of bombs on empty targets too with little effect, is that supposed to assuage someone's angst concerning America's loss of face in the world? As far as Obamacare PLEASE! you don't fix a broken system by breaking it further and doubling down on stupid.

No, all of the above is about cherry picking facts and placing them ina n out of context way that you makes you look intelligent. It is easily picked apart and below the surface is meaningless. As a CT it is a particularly poor one

Yes i understand how bankruptcy works. Im simply helping to paint the whole picture. You have no idea how many people ive spoke to who think trump is a self made and successful business man.

I find it surprising that you think a presidental candidate taking money from saudi royalty is a non issue. Maybe it is a non issue but i certainly think in todays climate it is worth exploring ANY links between government officials and islamists.

You do fix a broken system by completely breaking it. The problem is the vast majority of right wing voters dont believe the system was broken before obamacare.

Maybe the theory is easily picked apart and meaningless if you're coming from a biased point of view. Its not a new one however, this was predicted before Obama even took office. Now i gotta find some links dammit.

[Merc14]

Yes i understand how bankruptcy works. Im simply helping to paint the whole picture. You have no idea how many people ive spoke to who think trump is a self made and successful business man.

He seems to be doing well now and his bankruptcies were well coordinated and managed that he was able to rebuild bigger and better.

I find it surprising that you think a presidental candidate taking money from saudi royalty is a non issue. Maybe it is a non issue but i certainly think in todays climate it is worth exploring ANY links between government officials and islamists.

He hasn't taken any money to fund his campaign has he? Saudi Arabia is an ally and many people use Saudi money to fund projects. I simply don't see your aversion to international businesses using overseas funding sources.

You do fix a broken system by completely breaking it. The problem is the vast majority of right wing voters dont believe the system was broken before obamacare.

Really? Show me where that has worked. The vast majority of all Americans (usually 60%) realize that the health system is broken and the vast majority were against the government, who broke it in the first place, taking more control but that didn't stop the democrats enacting it anyways.

Maybe the theory is easily picked apart and meaningless if you're coming from a biased point of view. Its not a new one however, this was predicted before Obama even took office. Now i gotta find some links dammit.

Obama desires that his "legacy" be maintained by the next president which is why he will find a way to make sure Hillary is not indicted. If you like CT's so much that is one you can dig into. The last thing he wants is a man who promises to dismantle his work, such as it is.

[Farmer77]

He seems to be doing well now and his bankruptcies were well coordinated and managed that he was able to rebuild bigger and better.

He hasn't taken any money to fund his campaign has he? Saudi Arabia is an ally and many people use Saudi money to fund projects. I simply don't see your aversion to international businesses using overseas funding sources.

Really? Show me where that has worked. The vast majority of all Americans (usually 60%) realize that the health system is broken and the vast majority were against the government, who broke it in the first place, taking more control but that didn't stop the democrats enacting it anyways.

Obama desires that his "legacy" be maintained by the next president which is why he will find a way to make sure Hillary is not indicted. If you like CT's so much that is one you can dig into. The last thing he wants is a man who promises to dismantle his work, such as it is.

Technically speaking since Trump is funding his campaign through loans to his campaign, anyone trump is in debt to potentially has a piece of his campaign. (a little nitpicky i know)

Government didnt break the health care system. Corporate greed did. But thats probably going a bit too far off topic

Its not a conspiracy theory that Obama wont indict Clinton, it is a conspiracy but its just fact. The oligarchs don't impose real consequences on each other. Oligarchs also don't dismantle each others work so I certainly wouldn't hold my breath that any candidate will turn this nation in a drastically different direction than it is and has been heading in since the 1960's.

Edited March 24, 2016 by Farmer77

[aztek]

Technically speaking since Trump is funding his campaign through loans to his campaign, anyone trump is in debt to potentially has a piece of his campaign. (a little nitpicky i know)

lol, no, not really, do you have any evidence he took loans for campaign?