Donald Trump Enters 2016 Presidential Race

[Leo Krupe]

comming from you it sounds like a compliment

I was going to take a break from the politics section because of the idiocy of the posts, but thanks to your commmmment, I think I'll stick around a bit longer.

[Leo Krupe]

For those who are interested in polls, PPP has new information out: Trump still leads, but the others are catching up, Walker in particular. And Trump's approval rating is declining:

Trump gets 19% to 17% for Scott Walker, 12% for Jeb Bush, 10% for Ben Carson and Marco Rubio, 8% for Mike Huckabee, 4% each for Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, and Rand Paul, 3% each for Chris Christie and John Kasich, 1% for Bobby Jindal, Rick Perry, and Rick Santorum, and less than 1% each for Jim Gilmore, Lindsey Graham, and George Pataki.

For one thing his favorability rating is back down in the 40s, at 48/39. Although it's not a perfect comparison, our state polls in Virginia (58/32) and North Carolina (55/32) over the previous two weeks had found him with numbers in the mid to upper 50's. And although it's an even more imperfect comparison to compare numbers with other polling organizations, Trump's 2 point advantage is a lot less than the 11 point one had in an ABC/Washington Post poll conducted largely before Trump's comments about McCain.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/president-2016/

No, he's not done yet, but I'm thinking he's probably peaked.

[F3SS]

You have quite the hubris about you Leo. Always crowbarring in unnecessary insults about the intelligence of others, once referring to the members of UM your audience while insulting the intelligence of all here. "I'm sorry, I believe I have overestimated my audience." Yea, that was you. Going on about how "everybody knows that" instead of just conversing like an adult. You're not nearly the smartest guy here and even if you were you should quit acting like it.

[Space Commander Travis]

back onto the subject, what do all of the other contenders offer, if anything? Or are their platforms just to blame the current President for everything and go on about immigrants? For instance, what are their views regarding foreign policy and the question of, inter alien, China, Russia, the EU, the wisdom or otherwise of military intervention against ISIS and similar terrorist uprisings, and so on? What are their energy policies? Do they believe in continuing to rely on fossil fuels, expansion of nuclear power, do they believe in renewable energy, & so on? These are the issues that are likely to affect the rest of the world, and, like it or not, the choice of President isn't just a purely American matter, since the rest of the world has a considerable interest in who gets to sit behind the Big Desk.

[SHaYap]

Or under that said desk as the case may be ~

[Frank Merton]

It begins at least to me to look as though Trump can get up to a quarter of the Republicans by saying outrageous things that to most reasonable people's ears sounds stupid, bigoted, and, sadly hateful. It is a relief that this means two-thirds of Republicans don't buy into it and the only reason Trump can do well at all is that there are so many other candidates.

So one quarter of one party, at best about 12 percent of all the electorate. The thing is you could end up with Trump running as an independent (his ego too big to accept primary defeats). That twelve percent would then hand the election to the Democrats, probably with large tails in both houses of Congress. I have nothing wrong with the Democrats winning elections, but this is not the way democracy should work. The American system is full of traps where very undemocratic and unfortunate things can happen; it needs thorough revision and updating.

[Gromdor]

It begins at least to me to look as though Trump can get up to a quarter of the Republicans by saying outrageous things that to most reasonable people's ears sounds stupid, bigoted, and, sadly hateful. It is a relief that this means two-thirds of Republicans don't buy into it and the only reason Trump can do well at all is that there are so many other candidates.

So one quarter of one party, at best about 12 percent of all the electorate. The thing is you could end up with Trump running as an independent (his ego too big to accept primary defeats). That twelve percent would then hand the election to the Democrats, probably with large tails in both houses of Congress. I have nothing wrong with the Democrats winning elections, but this is not the way democracy should work. The American system is full of traps where very undemocratic and unfortunate things can happen; it needs thorough revision and updating.

Sadly, this is exactly how democracy works. The founding fathers, however, figured that a large portion of the voting masses were actually incapable of making sensible decisions and thus instituted an electoral college system. Hence the US is actually a republic rather than a democracy.

[Michelle]

back onto the subject, what do all of the other contenders offer, if anything?

F3SS started a thread providing the information you are looking for.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=281856

[Gromdor]

F3SS started a thread providing the information you are looking for.

http://www.unexplain...howtopic=281856

The issues play a very small part in presidential elections these days. It's all a popularity contest. You have two groups that will always vote for their teams and then you have a large group of independents that can be swayed by showmanship and posturing.

Trump is the perfect example. Does he truly differ from the other republican candidates on the issues? Is that what is making him lead the polls? Or is it his presentation and outrageous and attention getting statements?

[F3SS]

Trumps polls a boost in Iowa after McCain comments.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/07/26/want-to-guess-how-donald-trumps-iowa-poll-numbers-were-affected-after-he-insulted-john-mccain/

Edited July 26, 2015 by F3SS

[Phaeton80]

This man is an absolute marvel of society, the comedy just goes on and on.. Would be a wonderful social - psychological studycase.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7hGW9wybbA

[Phaeton80]

These Reactions To Donald Trump Will Depress You

[F3SS]

And who is this F bomb dropping snot behind the microphone in that video?

[Space Commander Travis]

And who is this F bomb dropping snot behind the microphone in that video?

It's called "The Young Turks". it's a leftie Obama supporting alternative comedy kind of thing.

[MeOnlyMe]

That kid is cursing way too much, called me names for supporting Donald Trump; what an idiot of a journalist, I would be surprised if he finished school with a major.

Although most of the reactions were a little uneducated, they are hitting the nail on the head. Building a wall is common sense, immigration is a huge issue and people are thriving off of our tax payers and costing us a very substantial amount of money. Donald trump is very refreshing, and absolutely successful, I can imagine he would be equally successful in office.

[Leo Krupe]

That kid is cursing way too much, called me names for supporting Donald Trump; what an idiot of a journalist, I would be surprised if he finished school with a major.

Although most of the reactions were a little uneducated, they are hitting the nail on the head. Building a wall is common sense, immigration is a huge issue and people are thriving off of our tax payers and costing us a very substantial amount of money. Donald trump is very refreshing, and absolutely successful, I can imagine he would be equally successful in office.

You're kidding right? I mean, this is a whoosh, isn't it? It has to be.

[MeOnlyMe]

No, its not time and time again I have said that I support Donald Trump

[Leo Krupe]

No, its not time and time again I have said that I support Donald Trump

Okay, I believe you. I also believe you're wrong, but we're both entitled to our opinions. C'est la vie.

[Space Commander Travis]

That kid is cursing way too much, called me names for supporting Donald Trump; what an idiot of a journalist, I would be surprised if he finished school with a major.

Although most of the reactions were a little uneducated, they are hitting the nail on the head. Building a wall is common sense, immigration is a huge issue and people are thriving off of our tax payers and costing us a very substantial amount of money. Donald trump is very refreshing, and absolutely successful, I can imagine he would be equally successful in office.

At what? Making as much money for himself as he can by farming out jobs to the very people he's accusing of flooding the country and raping their women? Does that qualify him for knowing how to handle the Middle East, ISIS, relations with Iran, North Korea, Russia, and so on and on? Or would he, well, he'd let his underlings take care of all that sort of thing, all those trivial little details, while he gets on with the more important job of Making America Great Again™, by means of building a wall to keep Mexicans out? Edited August 1, 2015 by Norbert the Incredible

[Yamato]

Trump is a brand. He's a man who sells himself. There are people who buy it, it's obvious right here from these threads.

There's nothing that qualifies him to be President. An immature hothead namecalling bully, and people are infatuated with him it's so ridiculous. That's the last guy I want with a finger on the trigger of our nuclear arsenals. The people who like him also hide behind this veil of supposition that it's all just an entertaining joke. If people can't take this seriously, it's no wonder how this country is allowed to start all these wars in the world.

[.ZZ.]

Trump is a brand. He's a man who sells himself. There are people who buy it, it's obvious right here from these threads.

There's nothing that qualifies him to be President. An immature hothead namecalling bully, and people are infatuated with him it's so ridiculous. That's the last guy I want with a finger on the trigger of our nuclear arsenals. The people who like him also hide behind this veil of supposition that it's all just an entertaining joke. If people can't take this seriously, it's no wonder how this country is allowed to start all these wars in the world.

Who would you like to see elected?

Many if not all of your posts are negative.

[F3SS]

Ron Paul, ZZ. Anyone else is wrong for Mr. Y.

I've heard of the young Turks. I recall catching them on a YouTube spiral not so long ago and quickly hitting the back button. Don't remember what it was about but I know I found them instantly irritating. Makes sense since I made it only 15 seconds into his broadcast after the people spoke before I hit stop. I don't mind swearing but some people are just bad at it and he instantly sounded like an uppity ahole.

[.ZZ.]

Ron Paul, ZZ. Anyone else is wrong for Mr. Y.

I've heard of the young Turks. I recall catching them on a YouTube spiral not so long ago and quickly hitting the back button. Don't remember what it was about but I know I found them instantly irritating. Makes sense since I made it only 15 seconds into his broadcast after the people spoke before I hit stop. I don't mind swearing but some people are just bad at it and he instantly sounded like an uppity ahole.

Yes, I was thinking about Ron Paul when I asked him that.

I meant who is going to be alive and breathing in 2016 would he endorse?

[acidhead]

Who would you like to see elected?

Many if not all of your posts are negative.

Well if it's claimed "many if not all your posts are negative" we can assume you've seen who Yam will vote for in the '16 fed election. BTW Ron Paul is retired from public service and not running. Heres a hint: RP is a a libertarian. His son is a constitutionalist. Also, and this is the important part, as this political pageant reality show unfolds many will be voting through whatever emotional feeling they're experiencing while others will refuse the rollar coaster of self conscience unabated and vote for principled party policy.

[Yamato]

These Reactions To Donald Trump Will Depress You

These people are so easily led by rhetoric. Obama's speech he made about Iraq was one of his strongest selling points too. Just words.

Trump doesn't fit into the same box other Republicans do? What issue does he differ from the GOP establishment on? They've held the same views of the border and illegal immigration for years. Trump just runs his mouth and calls them "rapists", that's the difference. He's allegedly (according to himself) flip flopped on health related issues, how convenient. Of course there's no substance to it, he just runs his mouth about that too.