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Son Died By Lighting Fireworks On His Head

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GlitterRose

It was stupid, but it's still sad. They'll probably just end up putting a disclaimer on the packaging.

You wouldn't think it would need a sticker on it to tell people not to light them on their heads, but apparently, you'd be wrong.

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psyche101

Banning alcohol for the greater good worked so well.

You mean they changed the CONSTITUTION!!! Good Lord, how UnAmerican is that!!! I expect you to throw away every alcoholic source in your house in protest!!

So how did they breach this Hallowed Constitution?

Ohh. yeah, they made an amendment!! Gee, never thought of that now.....

I bet it was like

"Hey, I like getting messed up"

"Yeah me too, lets end this prohibition BS"

But a plethora of stupid laws remain in place still don't they? You still keep guns to "fight the tyrannical Government if they attack!!"

I do not think a great deal of thought went into any of that.

Generally when there is a market for something, it's getting brought or sold whether it's legal or not. And when it's illegal, it's even more dangerous (i.e no regulations on the product)

Like Cocain you mean?

You reckon that will be legalised in the States as well??

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Professor Buzzkill

Like Cocain you mean?

You reckon that will be legalised in the States as well??

Yes there would be less harm to society if cocaine was legalized. That goes for any dangerous illicit drug where there are users and people willing to sell their product cut with anything from flour to a de-wormer for farm animals. In a regulated market, the only deaths would be from overdose, not contamination with whatever the gangs put in it. Users will be users whether it's legal or not, and i will not use whether it's legal or not.

Not sure where you were going with your constitution rant though

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psyche101

Yes there would be less harm to society if cocaine was legalized. That goes for any dangerous illicit drug where there are users and people willing to sell their product cut with anything from flour to a de-wormer for farm animals. In a regulated market, the only deaths would be from overdose, not contamination with whatever the gangs put in it. Users will be users whether it's legal or not, and i will not use whether it's legal or not.

Of course, why not legalise Heroin while you are at it, cannot do any harm now can it.

Does not matter that these drugs are addictive, destroy your mind and your body, and create an addiction that leads to crime and death. And increasing heart rate and blood pressure will in a certain amount of cases cause heart failure, but lets not worry about that because the nasty stuff they use to cut it with is now gone!! At least the junkies could get a few more hits in before they overdose huh! Marvellous!! Bleeding Noses and guts, great stuff!! Everyone should have it in the cupboard!! We would all be better off!!

LOL, yeah right. How do you sleep at night? Rather than good advice, sounds more like famous last words.

Not sure where you were going with your constitution rant though

No? Your personal problem with banning items across a community for the greater good, I see your view as astoundingly selfish. Bans exist for a reason, and they can be very beneficial to all. Alcohol had prohibition lifted way back in 1933, and the law only lasted 14 years. It's hardly the same playing field, and driving it underground DOES indeed for sure limit usage!! To make Cocain would bring the price down amazingly, on the black market it will enjoy a 500% Markup and then some. People cannot afford stuff on the black market, driving it underground only allows a select few to access it.

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Wickian

Yes there would be less harm to society if cocaine was legalized. That goes for any dangerous illicit drug where there are users and people willing to sell their product cut with anything from flour to a de-wormer for farm animals. In a regulated market, the only deaths would be from overdose, not contamination with whatever the gangs put in it. Users will be users whether it's legal or not, and i will not use whether it's legal or not.

Not sure where you were going with your constitution rant though

I personally think that drugs should be an all or nothing deal as far as legality goes. Alcohol and caffeine are legal, so why are other drugs illegal?

Like you, I wouldn't touch any of them, but as long as the two previously mentioned drugs, and a whole heap of pharmacy drugs, are legal, all the others should be too.

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rashore

Like Cocain you mean?

You reckon that will be legalised in the States as well??

There are legal forms of cocaine, it's used medically. Primarily in dentistry. A pharm company in St. Louis processes it. There's also several forms of medical heroin too, as opioids.

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some new guy

and you must know about Portugal and its decriminalization of all drugs - it proved to be a huge success, google will get you tons of information

but to get back on topic, when I 1st saw the news articles about the fireworks death I came THIS CLOSE to starting a thread here with the title, THIS WEEKS DARWIN AWARD GOES TO....... - but I decided against it figuring it was too insensitive

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and then

I feel sorry for the family,but the Darwin award should go to the brother and friends...

If my lil bro tried something like that there wouldnt be any TRYING to talk him out of it!

Straight up! I'd have kicked his butt if need be.
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Yamato

Seems a sound solution to an obvious problem. I hope she finds someone who helps get that law enacted.

Maine legalised Fireworks to the general public in 2012??

Why???

This was just an eventuality when that silly law was enacted.

Yeah it's inconceivable that something would be legal that could possibly get a person killed!

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CJ1983

I think alcohol played more of a factor in this guys death than anything else. They should put restrictions on alcohol, oh wait they do that already. Hmm, I guess more restrictions on stuff should really do the trick shouldn't it. WTF.

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godnodog

People should know by now that stupidy can kill and will kill :no:

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Thanato

Darwin Award for sure.

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F3SS

People should know by now that stupidy can kill and will kill :no:

Plus there an old saying: You can't fix stupid.

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Beefers

Alcohol abuse as the cause, fireworks were just the means.

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Leonardo

The shallow end of the pool is a little less crowded now. :mellow:

Sorry if that sounds callous, but there is no law that can legislate away stupidity.

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Bendy Demon

Stupidity shouldn't create stricter laws.

A million "Amen's" to that.

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russ117044

I'm sorry he died and my thoughts and pryers go out to his family.

But:

HOW *snip* STUPID DO YOU HAVE TO BE?

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Thelaw1

You know how commercials for cars turning into transformers have the disclaimer "this is a closed circuit, do not attempt!" It makes me wonder who in their right mind would say "you know what, i'm going to turn my car into a transformer because, why the heck not?!" Point I am trying to make is, when they put a warning label on fireworks saying "please do not launch from your head!" you will understand why they had to put that disclaimer. Who in their right mind would ever do that!??!

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psyche101

I personally think that drugs should be an all or nothing deal as far as legality goes. Alcohol and caffeine are legal, so why are other drugs illegal?

Do you honestly feel that Caffeine and ICE are pretty much the same thing, and have the same effect on the human body?????

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psyche101

There are legal forms of cocaine, it's used medically. Primarily in dentistry. A pharm company in St. Louis processes it. There's also several forms of medical heroin too, as opioids.

Well thanks for that explanation I had never heard of Morphine before.... :rolleyes:

I guess it is just a co incidence that Licensed Medical outlets are the only ones allowed near it, and have to report every gram they use and where?

So lets just give it to everyone on the street then if is sooo full of goodness!!

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I had proposed. You might as well said something about Pineapples.

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psyche101

Yeah it's inconceivable that something would be legal that could possibly get a person killed!

It is an explosive device Yam. It's not a shovel that has a use, but has been used as a murder weapon it is a specialised trade with a specialised skill. There is a long, long history associated with Fireworks, and we know it is an extraordinarily dangerous item.

To say, ohh ,but it's fun I should be allowed is selfish and plain stupid mate. I reckon the people who brought to law back in ought to go to every family that has had a death, and explain the virtues of selling fireworks the the general public.

For all the people calling to put this fellow out of the gene pool, you missed the boat The halfwit who brought the law in back in 2012 deserves that honor.

Yes Yam, it is plain stupid to put a dangerous device into the hands on an untrained person. Particularly when used for celebrations where alcohol will certainly be prevalent.

It is a bit horrifying that so many callous people just think making a stupid mistake means you deserve to die, you all ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Have not one of you ever done something silly growing up???? Should you all be removed from the gene pool as well?? Get over yourselves. This was a fellow human being.

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OneWanderingSoul

Ok, so we are going to outlaw the sale of everything that is 'dangerous' or 'deadly' when used in a manor OTHER then the way you are supposed to use it?

ummm I can't think of much I couldn't 'accidentally' kill someone with that is sold everyday across the world......

and it is MUCH safer to have real fireworks then to have to resort to 'homemade' devices when you want to have a fireworks show.

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F3SS

Lighting a firework in your hands is stupid. Lighting an extremely powerful firework on your head is deadly, obviously. He may not have deserved to die but he certainly asked for it. Banning things over acts like that is ridiculous. I suppose our sports cars should be banned. They are technically useless and not intended for practical use. They have the ability to reach high speeds dangerously fast. There's really no point to them besides personal enjoyment and since they are dangerous beyond reason from a practical standpoint they should be banned because sometimes people don't respect the wheel that they're behind and kill themselves because of it. What's the difference psyche?

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Myles

It is an explosive device Yam. It's not a shovel that has a use, but has been used as a murder weapon it is a specialised trade with a specialised skill. There is a long, long history associated with Fireworks, and we know it is an extraordinarily dangerous item.

To say, ohh ,but it's fun I should be allowed is selfish and plain stupid mate. I reckon the people who brought to law back in ought to go to every family that has had a death, and explain the virtues of selling fireworks the the general public.

For all the people calling to put this fellow out of the gene pool, you missed the boat The halfwit who brought the law in back in 2012 deserves that honor.

Yes Yam, it is plain stupid to put a dangerous device into the hands on an untrained person. Particularly when used for celebrations where alcohol will certainly be prevalent.

It is a bit horrifying that so many callous people just think making a stupid mistake means you deserve to die, you all ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Have not one of you ever done something silly growing up???? Should you all be removed from the gene pool as well?? Get over yourselves. This was a fellow human being.

I guess I'm in the middle. I don't think his actions made it so he deserved to die. I explained earlier why.

I don't have an issue with these being legal. The purpose is entertainment. The purpose of a speedboat is entertainment. There is also danger involved. The purpose of a go cart is entertainment. The purpose of a trampoline, a pool or a mini bike is all entertainment.

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F3SS

And each of those has been involved with deaths and each of those serve no practical purpose. I don't disagree with the amplified dangers of fireworks as stated in a way earlier post but banning things on the grounds that they serve no practical purpose is, you guessed it, a slippery slope.

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