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Hillary has already "won" the Dem Nomination


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if you did you wouldn't say the things you say. why is it that no matter when a good thing happens it's because of republicans and no matter when a bad thing happens its because of democrats...according to republicans anyway. bush was on watch and he failed. I am sure you don't understand any of what happened because fox news did not explain it to you.

I don't watch TV. I only watch netflix. And I don't usually read the news. I go here and then I go research when I find something interesting.

True, Bush was on watch, and he did spend a fortune there at the end. But he had 7 years that were basically the same as the 8 Clinton years before him. If Bush was so horrible, things would have gone south in 2002, or 2003. You are just blaming Bush because he is an easy target and your shining hero figures then don't need to be tarnished.

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If it's mbrn3000, of course it's only blaming Bush! But sorry D's, the tech bubble blew before Bush entered office. The planning for 9/11 did too. Economic conditions existed that were definitely not Bush's fault. They were his father's fault, George Bush the First.

Yeah, 9/11 was on Bush's watch and Bush spent a fortune over it too, and on really bad ideas. Spending a fortune =/= success or effective leadership

I think Hillary's winning by 21 points and unless Bernie Sanders does something amazing really soon, I'm not sure how she can't win. The Republican email conspiracy isn't going to stop her. Or slow her down, it'll make her unbeatable. All she needs to do is strike down the email nonsense because that's all they've got. She's going to make the emailers look and sound like fools in the general election Her adversaries have set the bar so low, she need merely step over it.

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I only hope that 2008 repeats itself, and instead of Barry taking her thunder it is one of the GOP guys. Hopefully Cruz or Rubio. I like Paul too, but I just don't think he's going to pull it together enough to get the nomination. Cruz or Rubio can still do that in my opinion. My hope is that Trump and Carson are pushed aside once honest to goodness voting starts.

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It will repeat itself - exactly. The other main candidate for the Dems will win - Sanders. It's already emulating all the earmarks already, and a LOT of people are noticing it and talking about just that. This will be awesome.

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It will repeat itself - exactly. The other main candidate for the Dems will win - Sanders. It's already emulating all the earmarks already, and a LOT of people are noticing it and talking about just that. This will be awesome.

Awesome? I do hope people aren't beginning to set themselves up for the same kind of disappointment that resulted after Mr. O came to office.
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It will repeat itself - exactly. The other main candidate for the Dems will win - Sanders. It's already emulating all the earmarks already, and a LOT of people are noticing it and talking about just that. This will be awesome.

Wishful thinking. It will be a good lesson for you to remember how what you want to have happen can cause you to think it will happen, and be wrong.
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A black man named "Barack Obama" got elected. I'm pretty sure a lot of people were surprised then too. I don't feel too far afield here, thinking a grumpy old white man can get elected in the US.

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A black man named "Barack Obama" got elected. I'm pretty sure a lot of people were surprised then too. I don't feel too far afield here, thinking a grumpy old white man can get elected in the US.

:rolleyes: I mean the expectations that people had that he too would be Awesome.
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Oh anything is possible, but Clinton would have to self-destruct. Her current opponents are not Obamas, and lack his intelligence, grasp, and charisma. Besides, Obama had the black vote. Most of it now goes to Clinton.

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Oh anything is possible, but Clinton would have to self-destruct. Her current opponents are not Obamas, and lack his intelligence, grasp, and charisma. Besides, Obama had the black vote. Most of it now goes to Clinton.

I strongly suggest you actually watch a hell of a lot more of what Sanders is actually saying (rather than what the media filter is saying he is saying) since I think you will find that he is every bit as intelligent and Charismatic as Obama. After all he has some of the biggest and most energetic rallies in the whole campaign - rallies that largely go unreported inside the USA.

Whether selecting Sanders in the face of a hostile media which will try to crucify him would turn out to be a big mistake for the democrats will have to be seen.

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I strongly suggest you actually watch a hell of a lot more of what Sanders is actually saying (rather than what the media filter is saying he is saying) since I think you will find that he is every bit as intelligent and Charismatic as Obama. After all he has some of the biggest and most energetic rallies in the whole campaign - rallies that largely go unreported inside the USA.

Whether selecting Sanders in the face of a hostile media which will try to crucify him would turn out to be a big mistake for the democrats will have to be seen.

Br Cornelius

I have no personal preference here -- I'm just saying what I think will happen. I don't think Sanders is up to Obama's level -- I have watched him and he seems to use outdated data and repeat himself and get a bit raw around the edges.
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If it's mbrn3000, of course it's only blaming Bush! But sorry D's, the tech bubble blew before Bush entered office. The planning for 9/11 did too. Economic conditions existed that were definitely not Bush's fault. They were his father's fault, George Bush the First.

Yeah, 9/11 was on Bush's watch and Bush spent a fortune over it too, and on really bad ideas. Spending a fortune =/= success or effective leadership

I think Hillary's winning by 21 points and unless Bernie Sanders does something amazing really soon, I'm not sure how she can't win. The Republican email conspiracy isn't going to stop her. Or slow her down, it'll make her unbeatable. All she needs to do is strike down the email nonsense because that's all they've got. She's going to make the emailers look and sound like fools in the general election Her adversaries have set the bar so low, she need merely step over it.

the email conspiracy ? Bernie is our only real hope . Not Hillary. She's a democratic capitalistic republican wall street builder&supporter . Rand Paul is a capitalist wall street enabler/supporter , I knew there was something about him I didn't like . There is no one in the republican party that is real and the only one in the democratic party that is real is Bernie.

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It will repeat itself - exactly. The other main candidate for the Dems will win - Sanders. It's already emulating all the earmarks already, and a LOT of people are noticing it and talking about just that. This will be awesome.

I hope so..

Bernie Sanders speech.

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the email conspiracy ? Bernie is our only real hope . Not Hillary.

"Help me, Obi-Wan Kebernie, you're our only hope."
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the email conspiracy ? Bernie is our only real hope . Not Hillary. She's a democratic capitalistic republican wall street builder&supporter . Rand Paul is a capitalist wall street enabler/supporter , I knew there was something about him I didn't like . There is no one in the republican party that is real and the only one in the democratic party that is real is Bernie.

the financial crisis of 2008 was not the same event as the tech bubble. smh

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"Help me, Obi-Wan Kebernie, you're our only hope."

would you prefer a war monger neocon capitalist ? there's no one else running that's sincere . In that case he is the one that would offer the most hope for my/the country.

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Rand Paul is a capitalist wall street enabler/supporter , I knew there was something about him I didn't like . There is no one in the republican party that is real and the only one in the democratic party that is real is Bernie.

You might want to check his record since he's been in the Senate, Ella. It's as real as anyone's.

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would you prefer a war monger neocon capitalist ? there's no one else running that's sincere . In that case he is the one that would offer the most hope for my/the country.

LMFAO. Unbelievable. :rolleyes:

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she is what she is , what's your point ?

what? my point is the financial crisis of 2008 had nothing to do with the tech bubble. you said I blamed the tech bubble on bush, when I clearly said the financial crisis. I assume you do not know the difference and I was trying to prevent you from embarrassing yourself any more than you did.

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she is what she is , what's your point ?

The point might be you don't know what you are talking about and so should not be so dogmatic.
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You might want to check his record since he's been in the Senate, Ella. It's as real as anyone's.

It was something he said recent . I'll have to find it . Was about capitalism vs socialism. I didn't agree with Rand .

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what? my point is the financial crisis of 2008 had nothing to do with the tech bubble. you said I blamed the tech bubble on bush, when I clearly said the financial crisis. I assume you do not know the difference and I was trying to prevent you from embarrassing yourself any more than you did.

Did you follow the last debate ? Did you get to see it ?

ETA - Hillary is back by wall street. Sanders is not.

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