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Eastern Black Pathers

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davros of skaro
On 9/20/2017 at 10:57 AM, stereologist said:

I realize I am necroposting. I learned something interesting that I thought might be a clue as to what people are seeing.

Someone told me they spotted a fisher cat in our area and have placed trail cams out in the woods to get a photo. I am wondering if people are mistaking the loping of a fisher cat for a small panther.  Adult males can be 3 to 4 feet in length. Reports of panthers have all been nocturnal, in the forests, and black in color. I'm thinking that the panthers are possibly fisher cats, an animal few people are aware of.

That's the conclusion that I later came to from a sighting over a decade ago in NYS. It was starting to get dark out, I hear a Squirrel up in a tree doing a nervous growl. At the base of the tree I see what I thought was a Black Panther skulking away because I was walking by. It was about 50 yards away, and it went down a hill.

I thought it was BP stalking the Squirrel, but hindsight a Fisher Cat makes much more sense of the dark outline I saw.

Here's a report that's not too far away from my sighting. 

http://palisadesny.com/news/black-panthers-palisades/

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stereologist

Thanks for that article davros of skaro.  It was interesting to see the list of animals included  in the article.

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DieChecker

Huh? I had no idea they still had fishers back East. They are well known here in the Pacific North West though.

I'd tend to agree that a fisher would be a more likely suspect then a cougar, as cougar have not been reported in the Eastern US for quite a while.

That doesn't exempt that perhaps some idiot had several black jaguars and released them into the wild. I read stories every once in a while of someone keeping a bear in their garage, or a lion in a back lot, or chimpanzee in the house. It certainly could happen, but there'd need to be either someone confess to it, or to actually kill/capture one of the panthers.

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mortellementpanthera

Another suspect could be the Jaguarundi. There have been many reports in Texas. They look quite different than an average “big(ger)” cat. More like an otter or a weasel. They are native to South America, but their normal range could have expanded for a majority of reasons. 

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Sakari
On ‎7‎/‎29‎/‎2015 at 2:57 PM, Paranormalcy said:

 

 Even though some rare jaguars may have escaped to live in the wild in the US, and some may even be "black panthers", there has been NO speciment of native "black panther" found in the US. Any "black panthers" spotted are either actually jaguars (highly unlikely but possible, with zoos and rich people's weird pet ideas) or if you lean that direction, some sort of cryptid.

 

There are at least 3 confirmed Jaguars in Southern Arizona. They are wild, and have not "escaped" from anywhere. They are moving North from South America, and coming back to where they were before.

Article:   https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-science/2017/03/02/rare-jaguar-spotted-mountains-arizona/98641298/

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Piney
9 hours ago, Sakari said:

There are at least 3 confirmed Jaguars in Southern Arizona. They are wild, and have not "escaped" from anywhere. They are moving North from South America, and coming back to where they were before.

Article:   https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-science/2017/03/02/rare-jaguar-spotted-mountains-arizona/98641298/

I also notice because the climate is getting warmer everything is moving up. Black widows, water moccasins, even cypress. I only saw "tick clusters" in the Georgia and Carolina Piney Woods in the mid Eighties. Now they are here. 

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Piney
On 10/15/2017 at 5:04 AM, DieChecker said:

Huh? I had no idea they still had fishers back East. They are well known here in the Pacific North West though.

I'd tend to agree that a fisher would be a more likely suspect then a cougar, as cougar have not been reported in the Eastern US for quite a while.

That doesn't exempt that perhaps some idiot had several black jaguars and released them into the wild. I read stories every once in a while of someone keeping a bear in their garage, or a lion in a back lot, or chimpanzee in the house. It certainly could happen, but there'd need to be either someone confess to it, or to actually kill/capture one of the panthers.

A pair of Fishers appeared on the Biddle Branch of the Wading River in Chatsworth right before I went to prison. I haven't been in that swamp since but plan on digging around in there some day.....That's if we can actually find help that's not going to hurt themselves and that's hard with a old fashion sawing operation.

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mortellementpanthera
4 hours ago, Piney said:

I also notice because the climate is getting warmer everything is moving up. Black widows, water moccasins, even cypress. I only saw "tick clusters" in the Georgia and Carolina Piney Woods in the mid Eighties. Now they are here. 

Definitely agree. I live in Southern OK, and there has been a lot of reports of Black Panther sightings in TX, and after they informed of the species of the Jaguarundi and the Fisher cat, some are able to identify them as being EXACTLY what they saw. (The ticks have also EXPLODED in population here, especially this precious summer.)

The Jaguarundi have moved farther and farther up in TX, so far that I believe they are now here in southern OK. Definitely not an impossibility, due to the large amount of wooded areas and places to hide for cats; Bobcat, Jaguarundi, Mountain Lion, and the other mysterious big black cat(s).

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