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UK team plans 'unsent letter' to aliens

A network of UK researchers has decided to compose a message to aliens - but they are divided over whether such a message should be sent into space.

The group will enter the Breakthrough Message contest, which offers a $1m prize for creating a digital missive that represents human civilisation.

That prize accompanies a new effort to accelerate the search for extra-terrestrial intelligence (Seti).

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Send aliens modern messages of Earth's equality and diversity, say scientists

Jill Stuart, an expert in space policy at the London School of Economics, pointed to the plaque that was placed on the Pioneer 10 spacecraft, launched in 1972. Intended to convey the origin of the craft and to impart information about the inhabitants of Earth, Stuart observed that to modern eyes the pictorial message presents some issues. .

“The plaque shows a man raising his hand in a very manly fashion while a woman stands behind him, appearing all meek and submissive,” she said. “We really need to rethink that with any messages we are sending out now. Attitudes have changed so much in just 40 years.”

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Sweetpumper

Good God. Political correctness in a message to aliens. After they're done laughing, hopefully they just hit the 'launch' button.

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Black Monk

These po-faced feminazis are getting everywhere nowadays - and there seems to be an awful lot of them in Britain.

Look at what happened over that "sexistshirt" that that British member of the ESA team which put that spaceprobe on a comet last year was wearing. He was hounded incessantly by a rabid feminazi mob on Twitter and was eventually reduced, literally, to tears. So never mind that he has just put a spaceprobe on a comet. This man was wearing a "sexist" shirt with images of scantily clad women on it and he must be punished!

And then there were those humourless, po-faced harridans who forced brilliant British scientist Sir Tim Hunt to resign from his job in the summer after he joked- and that's all it was, a joke - 'Three things happen when [girls] are in the lab. You fall in love with them, they fall in love with you and when you criticise them, they cry.' Instantly the feminazi army took to Twitter to howl their rages of disapproval at his "sexist" comments, and didn't stop until they forced Sir Tim to resign. So a man who won the Nobel Prize and who is credited for furthering the understanding of cancer was hounded out of his job. All his great scientific achievements and all the great scientific achievements that he may have gone on to achieve didn't matter to the baying feminazis. What was most important to them was punishing his for making a joke which just happened to be about women - and, of course, jokes abut women are strictly forbidden nowadays.

And then, just this week, another po-faced harridan by the name of Charlotte Proudman (should that be "Proudperson"?) has now put her entire career as a lawyer at risk - she's actually one of those odious human rights lawyers who make lots of money in preventing Britain deporting foreign-born murderers and terrorists - by causing outrage after accusing her fellow barrister, Alexander Carter-Silk, after he innocently commented that her photo of LinkedIn is "stuning" an that “You definitely win the prize for the best LinkedIn picture I have ever seen”. This humourless po-faced harridan then replied to him - in a way that makes it seem he is a naughty child rather than a barrister who is more senior than she is - that he has caused an “eroticisation of women’s physical appearance”, that his message was "offensive" and that "it silences women's professional attributes as their phsyical appearance becomes the subject." She rebuked him for his "unacceptable and misogynistic behaviour" and that she is "half your age". So the only "-ism" coming from anyone here was the ageism coming from Charlotte Proudperson. Put it this way - if this is the way she is going to continue speaking to any man who compliments her on her looks, she is going to become a very lonely woman.

So there you have it - we are now entering an age where a men can't even compliment women on their looks.

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Derek Willis

On the Pioneer 10 plaque the woman is not behind the man. Their feet are at exactly the same levels indicating they are standing side-by-side. The woman is shorter than the man because that is the average situation. The man has his hand raised in a friendly gesture. Carl Sagan - and his wife at the time - put a great deal of effort into designing a message that presented men and women as equal. Perhaps before criticizing the plaque, people should look into its history. For instance they chose an Asiatic appearance for the man and woman because that is what the majority of humans look like. Also, they deliberately only encoded the woman's height into the plaque to indicate that the man is no more important than the woman.

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Emma_Acid
So there you have it - we are now entering an age where a men can't even compliment women on their looks.

When the time comes that you're faced with daily, demeaning aggression based solely on your gender, you get an opinion.

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Lucas Cooper Merrin

Russian roulette if you ask me!

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FTWind

Retarded if you ask me. What benefits does this have?

I feel a lot of time and money is wasted on trying to find life outside our solar system.

What is the point?

I mean, do expect a space ship to show up and save us? To destroy us?

That's idiotic in my mind.

When the person sending something somewhere can actually live long enough for that thing to get where it's going then I'd see some point. Its like our eyes are to big for our minds. We tend to want to explain what we see around us wether were right or wrong.

There are so many different scientific studies researching things that have no benifet to the human race. Only if the scientific community would collaborate it's efforts in the areas of say actual space exploration, medicine, and physics. In my mind these are the only branches of science that actually will advance the human race , not researching why your cat dosent like you as much as your dogs do.

Point I'm trying to make is we should not be exploring the outer most reaches of the universe or even our own galaxy we have plenty to explore right here in our solar system for another thousand years. So in all fairness all scientific research that goes into space should be directed towards the exploration of our solar system and to advancements in space mining and space travel.

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Troublehalf

When the time comes that you're faced with daily, demeaning aggression based solely on your gender, you get an opinion.

But I do. As a man, I am regularly faced with demeaning aggression on the sole basis that I am a man. I'm attacked by both women and other men for not being "manly" enough. I am attacked by women for not being a "gentlemen". I am attacked by women for being a "gentleman" because, hey, she's a strong, independent woman who don't need no man, right? I'm attacked by women regularly for just existing, cause, sure, everything is black and white, right?

Men are 97% of combat fatalities.

Men pay 97% of Alimony

Men make 94% of work suicides.

Men make up 93% of work fatalities.

Men make up 81% of all war deaths.

Men lose custody in 84% of divorces.

80% of all suicides are men.

77% of homicide victims are men.

89% of men will be the victim of at least one violent crime.

Men are over twice as victimised by strangers as women.

Men are 165% more likely to be convicted than women.

Men get 63% longer sentences than women for the same crime.

Court bias against men is at least 6 times bigger than racial bias.

Males are discriminated against in school and University.

Boys face vastly more corporal punishment than girls.

60-80% of the homeless are men.

Women's Cancers receive 15 times more funding than men's

At least 10% of fathers are victims of paternity fraud.

One third of all fathers in the USA have lost custody of children, most are expected to pay for this.

40-70% of domestic violence is against men however less than 1% of domestic violence shelter spaces are for men.

Etc.

So, now you know I face discrimination, which is physical, emotional, institutional, societal, factual and objective, you won't mind me having an opinion now, will you?

Cool, thanks.

Back on topic. While the chances of a advanced race needing anything from mankind, there isn't anything to stop them from having the view that we're competition and something better to wipe out sooner rather than later. It also doesn't stop the potential for microbes and stuff from killing us all or large portions of us. Who's to say our disinfectant and stuff will work on their stuff? Besides, mankind has traded with each other before, with stuff contaminated with diseases, as a way of killing people off. Nothing to stop that happening.

Not saying it's impossible, it'll be a lot of effort, but it'd be worth it. Maybe.

Ah well. I'm sure any race that hears it would come and have a look around without us knowing anyway.

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MissJatti

What if ET misinteperate the message

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spud the mackem

These po-faced feminazis are getting everywhere nowadays - and there seems to be an awful lot of them in Britain.

Look at what happened over that "sexistshirt" that that British member of the ESA team which put that spaceprobe on a comet last year was wearing. He was hounded incessantly by a rabid feminazi mob on Twitter and was eventually reduced, literally, to tears. So never mind that he has just put a spaceprobe on a comet. This man was wearing a "sexist" shirt with images of scantily clad women on it and he must be punished!

And then there were those humourless, po-faced harridans who forced brilliant British scientist Sir Tim Hunt to resign from his job in the summer after he joked- and that's all it was, a joke - 'Three things happen when [girls] are in the lab. You fall in love with them, they fall in love with you and when you criticise them, they cry.' Instantly the feminazi army took to Twitter to howl their rages of disapproval at his "sexist" comments, and didn't stop until they forced Sir Tim to resign. So a man who won the Nobel Prize and who is credited for furthering the understanding of cancer was hounded out of his job. All his great scientific achievements and all the great scientific achievements that he may have gone on to achieve didn't matter to the baying feminazis. What was most important to them was punishing his for making a joke which just happened to be about women - and, of course, jokes abut women are strictly forbidden nowadays.

And then, just this week, another po-faced harridan by the name of Charlotte Proudman (should that be "Proudperson"?) has now put her entire career as a lawyer at risk - she's actually one of those odious human rights lawyers who make lots of money in preventing Britain deporting foreign-born murderers and terrorists - by causing outrage after accusing her fellow barrister, Alexander Carter-Silk, after he innocently commented that her photo of LinkedIn is "stuning" an that “You definitely win the prize for the best LinkedIn picture I have ever seen”. This humourless po-faced harridan then replied to him - in a way that makes it seem he is a naughty child rather than a barrister who is more senior than she is - that he has caused an “eroticisation of women’s physical appearance”, that his message was "offensive" and that "it silences women's professional attributes as their phsyical appearance becomes the subject." She rebuked him for his "unacceptable and misogynistic behaviour" and that she is "half your age". So the only "-ism" coming from anyone here was the ageism coming from Charlotte Proudperson. Put it this way - if this is the way she is going to continue speaking to any man who compliments her on her looks, she is going to become a very lonely woman.

So there you have it - we are now entering an age where a men can't even compliment women on their looks.

The Japenese have just invented a camera with the shutter speed so fast that it can actually capture the image of a women with her mouth closed
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Humans 'may accidentally send aliens a computer virus'

Humans may accidentally spam aliens or send them dangerous computer viruses if we try to contact them, experts at Oxford University have warned.

A working group of academics, astronomers and philosophers is currently trying to come up with a universal message to send out in the hope of reaching extraterrestrial life.

In September, the UK research network for SETI (the search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence) voted in favour of trying to reach out to alien life forms. But they are still undecided what exactly to send and are worried that they could inadvertently send viruses into space which could infect the technology of other civilisations.

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HeyWhatsUpWithAirlineFood

What's next, are we gonna accidentally crash their stock market by making satellites out of gold?

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Paranomali

This is why they wouldn't bother with us. Can't even agree over crap like this. Ridiculous nonsence.

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Earl.Of.Trumps

If they wanted to talk to us, they would have done so long ago.

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FTWind

If they wanted to talk to us, they would have done so long ago.

Not so true, I'm sure some other civilization is searching as well.
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OverSword

SETI, huge waste of time.

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FTWind

SETI, huge waste of time.

When will we be happy with what's in front of us instead of looking where we will never reach?

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dazdillinjah

hmm an old fella told me once some pretty good advice

and I think it applies here.......

he said "Don't speak until you are spoken to"

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Athena1979

Dear Mr. Or Mrs. Scary Alien,

I am from a place called earth. I like eating donuts and hot dogs. I have a kitten named hot dog...lol! I have a sister named Shaquina. I cant wait for a movie being released about you where you abducted some folks back in the black and white days. I hope you don't eat us.

Have a lovely day!"

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psyche101

What if ET misinteperate the message

:tu:

Exactly. Cultural differences offer enough confusion when just on this planet amongst similar beings, imagine what an entirely new cultural value might be?

LOL, so funny when they consider sexual equality something to proudly boast to aliens about, LOL, it is entirely conceivable that aliens won't have sex or gender!! Might pay to find that out before we start telling them how civilised we are!!

I really hope taxes don't pay these wages that come up with these really important ideas to work on.

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Gomar

Aliens might introduce their Gods to humans if they reach us.

Ifcourse, who is to say Adam&Eve weren't alien colonists, or that it wasn't aliens who gave Moses the Bible?!

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psyche101

Aliens might introduce their Gods to humans if they reach us.

Ifcourse, who is to say Adam&Eve weren't alien colonists, or that it wasn't aliens who gave Moses the Bible?!

Just what this planet needs

Interstellar JW's.

:rolleyes:

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godnodog

hmm an old fella told me once some pretty good advice

and I think it applies here.......

he said "Don't speak until you are spoken to"

Well in that case maybe humanity is the first breaking silence cause everyone else is waiting to be spoken to! Lol

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Noteverythingisaconspiracy

When will we be happy with what's in front of us instead of looking where we will never reach?

Hopefully never !

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Earl.Of.Trumps

Not so true, I'm sure some other civilization is searching as well.

Yeah, civilizations that just crawled out of the slime like we did, maybe. Intelligent beings from other worlds are far more likely to be billions of years older than us than not.

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