MJNYC Posted August 8, 2016 #251 Share Posted August 8, 2016 On 6/13/2016 at 2:47 PM, bison said: KIC 8462852 remains a scientific enigma. It's proposed that it be watched steadfastly for further dips in brightness, and that when these occur, its light then be scientifically analyzed. It this way, it should be possible to learn what is causing this star to fluctuate in such a puzzling way. Dr. Boyajian and her team have an ongoing Kickstarter campaign underway. They want to purchase observing time on a network of private astronomical observatories. In order to do this, they still need the support of all persons interested in the solution of this fascinating scientific mystery. Their Kickstarter campaign, which will continue for the next few days, can be reached at the link, given below. The funds that are pledged in support of this project will only be collected if the campaign reaches its goal. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/608159144/the-most-mysterious-star-in-the-Galaxy It's closed now, but this is great. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell Posted August 8, 2016 #252 Share Posted August 8, 2016 KIC 8462852 Solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted August 8, 2016 Author #253 Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) Solved? Maybe not 'really' aliens....but a fun mystery nonetheless Quote Alien megastructure for dimming star seems likely after natural explanations ruled out THE mystery over why the KIC 8462852 star is dimming had deepened after scientists ruled out all previous theories – leading to claims ALIENS have taken over. Top scientists were keen to rule out aliens and opted instead to look for a more natural explanation, such as comets passing in-between Earth and the star – colloquially known as Tabby’s Star. But conspiracy theorists are back after two top astronomers confirmed the dimming and ruled out previous explanations. http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/697754/Alien-megastructure-dyson-sphere-tabbys-star Edited August 8, 2016 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted August 8, 2016 #254 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Things like this don't get solved by someone writing an article or book - it needs to be peer-reviewed properly. It seems the mystery is deepening, not being solved: http://www.sciencealert.com/we-just-got-even-weirder-results-about-the-alien-megastructure-star?0_352586193010211= 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted August 8, 2016 #255 Share Posted August 8, 2016 7 hours ago, MJNYC said: I think I'll pray that it could be wonderful and not catastrophic, if it isn't natural. If it turns out they are a "they," then they are far enough away that I see no threat. It would also be thousands of years for us to exchange messages. The main thing would be little more than the knowledge they exist and a few ideas about our possible future. As it is the universe seems pretty bleakly empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted August 9, 2016 #256 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Quote As Seti had said the neighborhood has been very quiet for a long time,:) and if there is life out there you don'nt want to know in what forms. If there was any form of intelligence life, we would know by now, no evidence of ships. Edited August 9, 2016 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted August 9, 2016 #257 Share Posted August 9, 2016 At that distance how would we detect ships? No infrared, to be sure, but that just helps rule out some of the possible other explanations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted August 9, 2016 #258 Share Posted August 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, Frank Merton said: At that distance how would we detect ships? No infrared, to be sure, but that just helps rule out some of the possible other explanations. Frank aliens have to have material ships to land here, none have been discovered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted August 9, 2016 #259 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) It is a mystery that only time and technology can solve. Tabatha got her money to do the long term analysis and in the next decade and a half we will have some truly impressive telescopes and space-borne observatories coming on-line. Should be very interesting even if we find this is just some natural star behavior never observed before. Edited August 9, 2016 by Merc14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted August 9, 2016 #260 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Trust the kitten. The kitten knows all. I really do wonder what's going on. Is it some strange phenomenon or are the gallifreyans attempting to collapse a star into an Eye of Harmony? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted August 9, 2016 #261 Share Posted August 9, 2016 5 hours ago, docyabut2 said: Frank aliens have to have material ships to land here, none have been discovered Stop and actually think about this exchange a little. That none have been discovered is because we haven't the ability to see such things. There are suggested means of acceleration we might detect, but that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted August 9, 2016 #262 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Maybe that solar system is really dusty for some reason, and that is why we see flickering and luminosity changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted August 9, 2016 #263 Share Posted August 9, 2016 8 hours ago, docyabut2 said: Frank aliens have to have material ships to land here, none have been discovered Oh I see. Considering your other views, this nonsense doesn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted August 9, 2016 #264 Share Posted August 9, 2016 2 hours ago, South Alabam said: Maybe that solar system is really dusty for some reason, and that is why we see flickering and luminosity changes. Dust would even itself out in a ring or disk, and would shine in infrared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted August 9, 2016 #265 Share Posted August 9, 2016 6 hours ago, South Alabam said: Maybe that solar system is really dusty for some reason, and that is why we see flickering and luminosity changes. The problem with that hypothesis is that they aren't seeing any heating of that dust in the infrared spectrum, something you would normally expect to observe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted August 9, 2016 #266 Share Posted August 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Merc14 said: The problem with that hypothesis is that they aren't seeing any heating of that dust in the infrared spectrum, something you would normally expect to observe. Ah, I see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted August 10, 2016 #267 Share Posted August 10, 2016 23 hours ago, docyabut2 said: Frank aliens have to have material ships to land here, none have been discovered KIC 8462852 is estimated to be 454 parsecs away though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted August 10, 2016 #268 Share Posted August 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, psyche101 said: KIC 8462852 is estimated to be 454 parsecs away though. Exactly and why would any civilization that can harness the power of a star have any interest in our little dust mote in a far away arm of the galaxy. I honestly think we'll find a "natural" cause when the next gen observatories come on-line but how amazing would it be to know there is a species capable of that level of engineering? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted August 10, 2016 #269 Share Posted August 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, Merc14 said: Exactly and why would any civilization that can harness the power of a star have any interest in our little dust mote in a far away arm of the galaxy. I honestly think we'll find a "natural" cause when the next gen observatories come on-line but how amazing would it be to know there is a species capable of that level of engineering? I can see their having an interest and they probably already know we exist, but the time and expense of paying us a visit would probably be prohibitive, even for them. These horror stories about invaders coming for our resources or to eat us are stupid. We would not be digestible and the transportation costs are prohibitive. The only bad son they might come would be to set up a colony, and I think a society that has survived to that level will be way beyond those things (I hope). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted August 10, 2016 #270 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Sorry guys there are no aliens, there are no bones or ships found . but if its in the light then that's as much to say as to the after life, nothing proven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted August 10, 2016 #271 Share Posted August 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Sorry guys there are no aliens, there are no bones or ships found . but if its in the light then that's as much to say as to the after life, nothing proven. I think you are probably right. I also, however, think it makes a neat thing to speculate about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted August 10, 2016 #272 Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Sorry guys there are no aliens, there are no bones or ships found . but if its in the light then that's as much to say as to the after life, nothing proven. I have no idea what you are saying. There is nothing that this star has to do with our obscure arm of the galaxy and we have no idea what the cause of these odd observations are but the lack of "ships and bones" is probably the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on this forum and that is saying something. Why ITF would a species from nearly 1500 light years away visited this tiny little planet and left "ships and bones"? Who in the real world thinks that ships and bones on this planet is the only proof of life off of this planet? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted August 10, 2016 #273 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Merc14 said: I have no idea what you are saying. There is nothing that this star has to do with our obscure arm of the galaxy and we have no idea what the cause of these odd observations are but the lack of "ships and bones" is probably the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on this forum and that is saying something. Why ITF would a species from nearly 1500 light years away visited this tiny little planet and left "ships and bones"? Who in the real world thinks that ships and bones on this planet is the only proof of life off of this planet? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? Who in the real world thinks that ships and bones on this planet is the only proof of life off of this planet? dud:) We have many bones and ships of transportation of humans on this planet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted August 10, 2016 #274 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 minute ago, docyabut2 said: Who in the real world thinks that ships and bones on this planet is the only proof of life off of this planet? dud:) We have many bones and ships of transportation of humans on this planet ,the only proof we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted August 10, 2016 #275 Share Posted August 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Who in the real world thinks that ships and bones on this planet is the only proof of life off of this planet? dud:) We have many bones and ships of transportation of humans on this planet . 12 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Umm? Sober up mate and report back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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