+OverSword Posted October 25, 2015 #1 Share Posted October 25, 2015 One of the basic principles of elite Globalism is: the end of borders, the end of separate nations. The European Union was built for this purpose, step by step, out of the ashes of World War 2: a super-bureaucracy and political management system for the whole continent. But that was not enough. There had to be a way to wipe out separate and sovereign nations at ground level, to irrevocably change the landscape. It is open borders; floods of immigrants; “replacement populations”; an influx of people who have no intention of accepting the customs and way of life in their new homes. The end result? A de facto reconfiguring of national populations, so that, when you look at the makeup of Europe 20 years from now, you will say: “Why do we think of Germany or France or England? They don’t really exist. All of Europe is a vast mix of immigrants. Europe is really one country now. So let’s erase all those old artificial borders.” Eventually, even uttering words like “Swedes, Norwegians, Germans, French, Dutch…” will be considered micro (or macro) aggressions against the “people of Europe.” Read the rest here 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted October 25, 2015 #2 Share Posted October 25, 2015 One of the basic principles of elite Globalism is: the end of borders, the end of separate nations. The European Union was built for this purpose, step by step, out of the ashes of World War 2: a super-bureaucracy and political management system for the whole continent. But that was not enough. There had to be a way to wipe out separate and sovereign nations at ground level, to irrevocably change the landscape. It is open borders; floods of immigrants; “replacement populations”; an influx of people who have no intention of accepting the customs and way of life in their new homes. The end result? A de facto reconfiguring of national populations, so that, when you look at the makeup of Europe 20 years from now, you will say: “Why do we think of Germany or France or England? They don’t really exist. All of Europe is a vast mix of immigrants. Europe is really one country now. So let’s erase all those old artificial borders.” Eventually, even uttering words like “Swedes, Norwegians, Germans, French, Dutch…” will be considered micro (or macro) aggressions against the “people of Europe.” Read the rest here It's terrifying because regardless of the reasons, this is the future Europe is facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted October 25, 2015 #3 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I don't know if the article considers it to be a good or bad idea, not having read it yet, but the nation state has always been a purely artificial thing, hasn't it, even those relatively small nations with definite geographical boundaries like the UK are artificial constructs. However, while One World Government may be the ideal, seeing the danger of authoritarianism with creating even larger nations, I think I'd like to see it go the other way; affiliations or federations or confederacies of small geographical areas that wouldn't be big enough or powerful enough by themselves to cause much trouble, and which would trade with each other and encourage self-sufficiency as far as possible and break away from the slavish adherence to the "Global market". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imrunningthismonkeyfarm Posted October 25, 2015 #4 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Close the borders and blow the tunnel I say. We don't want them, we don't need them.. That's what he said? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Br Cornelius Posted October 25, 2015 #5 Share Posted October 25, 2015 A work of fiction by a blogger, and we should pay attention why ? The fact is that Globalisation is what the Americans have been pursing for over half a century, but its a globe dominated by them. The reality is however that the model of economic organisation promoted by America and the EU both make transnational organisations with supernational status the main driver of social organisation. There really is an inevitability about a world with minimal borders because that is the way that business and the Imperialists can best keep the money flowing into their coffers. Why be paranoid about Europe when it is at least as applicable to America and in a very real sense America is the main driver of the Globalist agenda. Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOMBIE Posted October 25, 2015 #6 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted October 25, 2015 #7 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I was ready to dismiss him but after reading his credentials at the bottom of the page he may very well know what he is talking about. Populations have been replaced before and will again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted October 26, 2015 #8 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It will be a shame when there are no nations in Europe. No flavor. Just a horde of mongrels. (Like here in the US) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted October 26, 2015 #9 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It will be a shame when there are no nations in Europe. No flavor. Just a horde of mongrels. (Like here in the US) Watch out for us mongrels. We vite and rarely shower. We also make a mean chicken curry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Br Cornelius Posted October 26, 2015 #10 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) Europe wrote the book on diversity before America even entered the game. England is not known as the home of Curry for nothing Br Cornelius Edited October 26, 2015 by Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashbangwallop Posted October 26, 2015 #11 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Yes we are a masochistic lot for all that curry. Not me by the way I prefer lard and fish bones with a half ton of salt soaked in vinegar and wrapped in news paper. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormalcy Posted October 26, 2015 #12 Share Posted October 26, 2015 There won't be any flavor of any nation, eventually. All the same race, all the same language, with the eventual same homogenized culture. There will I'm sure, still be problems and power struggles and narcissists that want to wield power over others they deem "inferior", but a lot of that innate stuff will be gone. The future IS coming - that's one thing we can always count on. I welcome the species of Man moving forward, out of the Second Dark Ages of the early to mid 2000s. Nations and borders will still exist, but for reference, not for artificial or nonsense "patriotic" reasons. Remember, the future is where we will spend the rest of our lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Posted October 26, 2015 #13 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) One of the basic principles of elite Globalism is: the end of borders, the end of separate nations. The European Union was built for this purpose, step by step, out of the ashes of World War 2: a super-bureaucracy and political management system for the whole continent. But that was not enough. There had to be a way to wipe out separate and sovereign nations at ground level, to irrevocably change the landscape. It is open borders; floods of immigrants; “replacement populations”; an influx of people who have no intention of accepting the customs and way of life in their new homes. The end result? A de facto reconfiguring of national populations, so that, when you look at the makeup of Europe 20 years from now, you will say: “Why do we think of Germany or France or England? They don’t really exist. All of Europe is a vast mix of immigrants. Europe is really one country now. So let’s erase all those old artificial borders.” Eventually, even uttering words like “Swedes, Norwegians, Germans, French, Dutch…” will be considered micro (or macro) aggressions against the “people of Europe.” Read the rest here The aim of the EU was and is peace, Churchill gave the inspiration. And peace doesn't exist if there are thousand nationalist states. The goal is the United States of Europe and I support this cause. The only thing which bothers me is the anti-democratic oligarchic structure (It got better though with the Lisbon Treaty), it should be a lot more decentralized on a regional level. Edited October 26, 2015 by hellwyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickian Posted October 26, 2015 #14 Share Posted October 26, 2015 There won't be any flavor of any nation, eventually. All the same race, all the same language, with the eventual same homogenized culture. There will I'm sure, still be problems and power struggles and narcissists that want to wield power over others they deem "inferior", but a lot of that innate stuff will be gone. The future IS coming - that's one thing we can always count on. I welcome the species of Man moving forward, out of the Second Dark Ages of the early to mid 2000s. Nations and borders will still exist, but for reference, not for artificial or nonsense "patriotic" reasons. Remember, the future is where we will spend the rest of our lives. I've gotta disagree with you there. The human race will NEVER homogenize in the way you seem to believe it will because we naturally self-segregate even within cities, let alone states/countries. Being tribal is part of our DNA and that is never going to change. Even if the form of competition changes from survival/war to things like commerce/sports/culture/colonizing(possibly in the distant future) we will always have the "us vs them" mindset and rally with "our" group against "their" group. That and I think it would be a tragedy if all the different races disappeared. I really dislike some cultures so I can't say I would be sad to see them go though. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormalcy Posted October 26, 2015 #15 Share Posted October 26, 2015 ALL the cultures "will go" eventually - that's the point of my post. I'm not saying it's going to happen in a hundred years. Self segregating is a transitory obstacle, the same way "self segregating" keeps out disease from isolation populations - for a time. Our DNA has a lot of things in it, as does our instinct, but that's the thing - those got there by the special evolution - and they eventually will change by the same method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Posted October 26, 2015 #16 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) It is not in our dna wtf, it is cultural and education/ conditioning which promotes competion segeration...etc There are many historical examples of people who lived and coexisted peaceful, there are also many peaceful epochs in human history Edited October 26, 2015 by hellwyr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
141 Posted October 26, 2015 #17 Share Posted October 26, 2015 i wonder what strand of DNA that is ? enlightenment pls ??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
141 Posted October 26, 2015 #18 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I've gotta disagree with you there. The human race will NEVER homogenize in the way you seem to believe it will because we naturally self-segregate even within cities, let alone states/countries. Being tribal is part of our DNA and that is never going to change. Even if the form of competition changes from survival/war to things like commerce/sports/culture/colonizing(possibly in the distant future) we will always have the "us vs them" mindset and rally with "our" group against "their" group. That and I think it would be a tragedy if all the different races disappeared. I really dislike some cultures so I can't say I would be sad to see them go though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socio Posted October 26, 2015 #19 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) I've gotta disagree with you there. The human race will NEVER homogenize in the way you seem to believe it will because we naturally self-segregate even within cities, let alone states/countries. Being tribal is part of our DNA and that is never going to change. Even if the form of competition changes from survival/war to things like commerce/sports/culture/colonizing(possibly in the distant future) we will always have the "us vs them" mindset and rally with "our" group against "their" group. That and I think it would be a tragedy if all the different races disappeared. I really dislike some cultures so I can't say I would be sad to see them go though. Segregation has been a part of human nature since mans existence, just as it is for most animal species on the planet, and it is why socialism, communism, or any other governmental structure that requires a collective to exist is doomed to fail. Man is not a bee or an ant, man is an individual whom instinctively will seek like kind for the most basic law of nature, which is survival of the fittest not the whole. This is why the EU is starting to fall apart, nationalism is on the rise, protecting individual borders has become paramount for most countries, it has less to do with racism, islamophobia or lack of sympathy toward immigrants, and more to do with natural instinct kicking in. Edited October 26, 2015 by Socio 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
141 Posted October 26, 2015 #20 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Segregation has been a part of human nature since mans existence, just as it is for most animal species on the planet, and it is why socialism, communism, or any other governmental structure that requires a collective to exist is doomed to fail. Man is not a bee or an ant, man is an individual whom instinctively will seek like kind for the most basic law of nature, which is survival of the fittest not the whole. This is why the EU is starting to fall apart, nationalism is on the rise, protecting individual borders has become paramount for most countries, it has less to do with racism, islamophobia or lack of sympathy toward immigrants, and more to do with natural instinct kicking in. Man is not a Bee or an Ant yet you compare humans to animal behavior ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickian Posted October 26, 2015 #21 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The fact that just about every form of government in every human society around the globe at all time periods is a pyramid with very few(usually 1) leader(s) at the top is pretty indicative of how tribal/pack behavior is part of our psyches. There's always the deviant person here or there, but for the vast majority of us it's hardwired into our brains to follow the leader or try to be the leader. I'm not saying we can't think for ourselves or that tribal splits never happen(there would never have been civil wars or the concept of political parties if that was possible), but all that happens in those cases are people forming smaller tribes of like-minded individuals. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
141 Posted October 26, 2015 #22 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The fact that just about every form of government in every human society around the globe at all time periods is a pyramid with very few(usually 1) leader(s) at the top is pretty indicative of how tribal/pack behavior is part of our psyches. There's always the deviant person here or there, but for the vast majority of us it's hardwired into our brains to follow the leader or try to be the leader. I'm not saying we can't think for ourselves or that tribal splits never happen(there would never have been civil wars or the concept of political parties if that was possible), but all that happens in those cases are people forming smaller tribes of like-minded individuals. this is a good explanation and true, however , we have evolved ... we dont form tribes anymore we have societies and even though we have our differences we still should do everything possible to help those in need . Strange how things are happening before they talked about a united Europe people were upset too . Everybody was afraid of the other . when some Borders opened slowly but surely people got used to a United Europe . Now there is a Crisis and some people want to turn their backs ... there has to come a time where we have to set differences aside and do our best as a human race . i cant help but wonder sometimes when people say MY COUNTRY you were born into that country its a privilege to be born that gives no right to say this is mine cause after you die '' your '' country will still exist and never care who or what you once were ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socio Posted October 26, 2015 #23 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) Man is not a Bee or an Ant yet you compare humans to animal behavior ? We are animals, more specifically we're primates, we may have surpassed the primitivism of all other species on the planet, though looking at the Middle East, or inner cities in the US today some may argue otherwise, but we are of the Kingdom Animalia nonetheless. Edited October 26, 2015 by Socio 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashbangwallop Posted October 26, 2015 #24 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Sorry Ya Amar I have to disagreed with this. There is a reality television program called bad neighbours or something like that at the moment which investigates feuds between neighbours! I have seen splits in families including my own which endure to the end of life. If a small sized country like Britain is split into five pieces then how is Europe not split? Politically they would have us believe that we are all good buddies. Then why is there so much argument in the European Common Market? Evolution from ape to humans has taken five to eight million years (estimated). And yet you say we have evolved since... when the foundation of nation states? That would be at best ten thousand years or so. Gobekli Tepe is perhaps 12,000 yrs old. However apart from perhaps using the place biannually or annually it's a place for festive gathering or similar since these people are thought to have been nomadic. The trend today politically is to have minority governments, where as, if we were united we would all vote for one party wouldn't we? The world is full of people who come from tribes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
141 Posted October 26, 2015 #25 Share Posted October 26, 2015 We are animals, more specifically we're primates, we may have surpassed the primitivism of all other species on the planet, though looking at the Middle East, or inner cities in the US today some may argue otherwise, but we are of the Kingdom Animalia nonetheless. well ,if thats the way you feel it is your choice but then i say ...even animals can have compassion ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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