Puma Punku Theories

[Riaan]

This is a site that was brought to my attention ( http://pumapunkutheories.webs.com/ ) - any comments? Sure there will be.

[Hanslune]

Howdy Riaan

Oh no another guy who thinks the Tiwanaku used 'concrete' all evidence says no to that idea.

We covered this just recently:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=245045&st=120#entry5694099

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=245045&st=105#entry5693566

[Riaan]

Howdy Riaan

Oh no another guy who thinks the Tiwanaku used 'concrete' all evidence says no to that idea.

We covered this just recently:

http://www.unexplain...20#entry5694099

http://www.unexplain...05#entry5693566

Thanks!

[poppet]

I have an inkling Puma Punka was built for a more practical use rather than another temple, it may have something to do with the irrigation canals that have recently been discovered and to me the north and south channel looks like the main function of this structure.

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx171/naf09_2010/puma%20punka/P1010513_zps362f1707.jpg[/img]

But if that is the case what on earth were they growing at 13,000 ft because it’s completely barren there?.

There is also one other thing that I find of interest and that’s the carbon dating [536AD] which ties into the days of darkness when all records show from Chinese writings to ice core samples that some major advent occurred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather_events_of_535%E2%80%93536

now as this thread is about theories theirs an alternative historian named Alan Wilson a welsh fellow who claims that a meteor may have hit southern America skimmed across the planet wiping out much of Britain and leaving via Norway in 536AD would you believe ! a bold claim but it might explain why lake Titicaca and the surrounding area is so high ………could a meteor impact raise the area up that high ?

[Oniomancer]

now as this thread is about theories theirs an alternative historian named Alan Wilson a welsh fellow who claims that a meteor may have hit southern America skimmed across the planet wiping out much of Britain and leaving via Norway in 536AD would you believe ! a bold claim but it might explain why lake Titicaca and the surrounding area is so high ………could a meteor impact raise the area up that high ?

...Or maybe they're so high BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FRICKIN' ANDES! Aaaa! Aaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

now as this thread is about theories theirs an alternative historian named Alan Wilson a welsh fellow who claims that a meteor may have hit southern America skimmed across the planet wiping out much of Britain and leaving via Norway in 536AD would you believe ! a bold claim but it might explain why lake Titicaca and the surrounding area is so high ………could a meteor impact raise the area up that high ?

A meteor impact less than 1500 years ago, that somehow jumped from South America to Europe, and yet it left no apparent evidence and wasn't reported by any contemporary accounts ?

Sometimes you just have to ask yourself this question: Does that honestly make any sense ?

[questionmark]

A meteor impact less than 1500 years ago, that somehow jumped from South America to Europe, and yet it left no apparent evidence and wasn't reported by any contemporary accounts ?

Sometimes you just have to ask yourself this question: Does that honestly make any sense ?

if you have slept through physics classes: SURE!!!

[poppet]

A meteor impact less than 1500 years ago, that somehow jumped from South America to Europe, and yet it left no apparent evidence and wasn't reported by any contemporary accounts ?

Sometimes you just have to ask yourself this question: Does that honestly make any sense ?

from the link i provided.

The extreme weather events of 535–536 were the most severe and protracted short-term episodes of cooling in the Northern Hemisphere in the last 2,000 years.^[1] The event is thought to have been caused by an extensive atmospheric dust veil, possibly resulting from a large volcanic eruption in the tropics,^[2] and/or debris from space impacting the Earth.^[3] Its effects were widespread, causing unseasonal weather, crop failures, and famines worldwide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather_events_of_535%E2%80%93536

[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

from the link i provided.

https://en.wikipedia...ts_of_535â€"536

From the link provided:

Evidence of extreme weather:

Evidence of bouncing asteroid:

[Jarocal]

I have an inkling Puma Punka was built for a more practical use rather than another temple, it may have something to do with the irrigation canals that have recently been discovered and to me the north and south channel looks like the main function of this structure.

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx171/naf09_2010/puma%20punka/P1010513_zps362f1707.jpg[/img]

Do you have any links to research papers on these irrigation channels?

Let's just say I find that a far more interesting topic than incredulity at their ability to shape and stack rocks which is the usual discussion for these type of sites. My own personal belief is that it did have more practical applications than just a "sacred site" but that does not mean it held little religious relevance. Many temple/monastery/shrine sites also had agricultural systems attached especially in agrarian societies where the surrounding inhabitants relied on subsistence agriculture.

But if that is the case what on earth were they growing at 13,000 ft because it’s completely barren there?.

Maize, potatos, tomatoes, quinoa, mace root, brassicas, various legumes...

Because it is barren or seeded with a turf grass (i.e. Macchu Pichu) now does not mean that remotely resembles the horticultural landscape at the time of its construction and use.

There is also one other thing that I find of interest and that’s the carbon dating [536AD] which ties into the days of darkness when all records show from Chinese writings to ice core samples that some major advent occurred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather_events_of_535%E2%80%93536

now as this thread is about theories theirs an alternative historian named Alan Wilson a welsh fellow who claims that a meteor may have hit southern America skimmed across the planet wiping out much of Britain and leaving via Norway in 536AD would you believe ! a bold claim but it might explain why lake Titicaca and the surrounding area is so high ………could a meteor impact raise the area up that high ?

I find little credible about the skimming space rock theory. such an impact would have evidence left behind that could be recognized today.

Edited November 28, 2015 by Jarocal

[ImmortalLegend527]

This is a site that was brought to my attention ( http://pumapunkutheories.webs.com/ ) - any comments? Sure there will be.

PumaPunka was built at a time in which humans around the world used telekinesis and telepathy as their language and thinking.

The mortals who built PumaPunka used a technique using a ‘diamond‘, and using a spin method through telekinesis’ to cut grooves and such.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

If they used magic (let's just call it magic) why aren't the blocks exactly the same size and shape?

[questionmark]

If they used magic (let's just call it magic) why aren't the blocks exactly the same size and shape?

'cause brain wonking brings forth unpredictable results?

Edited November 28, 2015 by questionmark

[Jarocal]

If they used magic (let's just call it magic) why aren't the blocks exactly the same size and shape?

consistent sizing may not have been aesthetically pleasing..

[cormac mac airt]

PumaPunka was built at a time (A.D. 536–600) in which humans nobody around the world used telekinesis and telepathy as their language and thinking.

Bold portions added for accuracy as apparently there are some who can't separate their fantasy from reality.

cormac

[toast]

PumaPunka was built at a time in which humans around the world used telekinesis and telepathy as their language

and thinking. The mortals who built PumaPunka used a technique using a ‘diamond‘, and using a spin method through

telekinesis’ to cut grooves and such.

Might be but this tread is about PumaPunku, PumaPunka is another story.

[Jarocal]

Bold portions added for accuracy as apparently there are some who can't separate their fantasy from reality.

cormac

I believe in telepathy, every hot woman I meet seems to know what I am thinking.

just saying...

Edited November 28, 2015 by Jarocal

[Hanslune]

PumaPunka was built at a time in which humans around the world used telekinesis and telepathy as their language and thinking.

The mortals who built PumaPunka used a technique using a ‘diamond‘, and using a spin method through telekinesis’ to cut grooves and such.

Hmmm where 'B' this PumaPunka? That amusement aside how come the stones show work marks from stone tools?

If you are going to make silly pronouncements without knowing the facts expect to be mocked.

Oh one question the Inca later used the natives from this area to do their stone work so at what point did the Tiwanaku lose the ability to use magic and how did they then become so good at working stone?

lol

[ImmortalLegend527]

Hmmm where 'B' this PumaPunka? That amusement aside how come the stones show work marks from stone tools?

If you are going to make silly pronouncements without knowing the facts expect to be mocked.

Oh one question the Inca later used the natives from this area to do their stone work so at what point did the Tiwanaku lose the ability to use magic and how did they then become so good at working stone?

lol

First,It wasn't magic, it was humans natural ability for millions of years to use telepathy and telekinesis‘...how do you think 97% of the world wonders were built loll, duh!

2nd I never said they didn't use tools.

3rd Of course when they lost their power they passed the knowledge on,but they could not duplicate the method.

[Hanslune]

First,It wasn't magic, it was humans natural ability for millions of years to use telepathy and telekinesis‘...how do you think 97% of the world wonders were built loll, duh!

Sounds like magic but how would you know? "millions' of year huh.........100% of the world wonders were built by humans using tools

2nd I never said they didn't use tools.

Why would they use tools if they had magic? duh

3rd Of course when they lost their power they passed the knowledge on,but they could not duplicate the method.

Oh my lets have your story of how they lost their magic powers!

You really didn't answer my previous question - here it is again

Oh one question the Inca later used the natives from this area to do their stone work so at what point did the Tiwanaku lose the ability to use magic and how did they then become so good at working stone?

So how about answering it?

Where else on the internet have you've tried this pretended immortal shtick?

Oh one question for our pretend immortal how often do you have to replace your teeth?

Edited November 29, 2015 by Hanslune

[ImmortalLegend527]

Sounds like magic but how would you know? "millions' of year huh.........100% of the world wonders were built by humans using tools

Why would they use tools if they had magic? duh

Oh my lets have your story of how they lost their magic powers!

You really didn't answer my previous question - here it is again

So how about answering it?

Where else on the internet have you've tried this pretended immortal shtick?

Oh one question for our pretend immortal how often do you have to replace your teeth?

It was two different types of work done one by telekinesis and one by hand.

2 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.

2

By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.

3

Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

Adam and Eve

4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.

5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth[a] and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, 6 but streams[b] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. 7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

8 Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

10 A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11 The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin[d] and onyx are also there.) 13 The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush.[e] 14 The name of the third river is the Tigris;it runs along the east side of Ashur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.

15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”

19 Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals.

But for Adam[f] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[g]and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[h] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

23 The man said,

“This is now bone of my bones

and flesh of my flesh;

she shall be called ‘woman,’

for she was taken out of man.”

24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

25 Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.

Greatest secret ever told copy written by iml527 In the bible ,it never has eve or adam talking ,why because they talked in telepathy.

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden,3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”

10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked;so I hid.”

11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

The first time eve talked, was when she was talking to the serpent.

After the alien/serpent tricked them out there gift OF TELEPATHY

Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

And for some reason,they learned to hear as well.

Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden.

Some where in time ,mortals were tricked out the gift of telekinesis’ mass telekinesis and telepathy, most likely around the earth at the same time.Out of a billion years of history on earth language writings’ and drawing suddenly appeared out of air.

so to answer your question i would say 2470 B.C.,

Edited November 29, 2015 by ImmortalLegend527

[ImmortalLegend527]

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100% of the world wonders were built by humans using tools

20% of the worlds wonders were built and 80% was done over by not the first race to do it,lol,what they use ropes???

[badeskov]

First,It wasn't magic, it was humans natural ability for millions of years to use telepathy and telekinesis‘...how do you think 97% of the world wonders were built loll, duh!

2nd I never said they didn't use tools.

3rd Of course when they lost their power they passed the knowledge on,but they could not duplicate the method.

Wow. Your vivid imagination is superceded only by an unexplainable desire to parade said vivid imagination in a rather embarrassing attempt to be interesting by possessing some secret knowledge. By all means of respect, but you come across as a 13 year old.

You are neither the first nor will you be the last to pass through here with such silly claims. Feel free to make yourself the laughing stock of UM; personally I would prefer to utilize the vast amount of knowledge offered up for free here at UM by a bunch of highly skilled professionals with years of experience over a broad range of fields.

Cheers,

Badeskov

Edited November 29, 2015 by badeskov

[ImmortalLegend527]

Wow. Your vivid imagination is superceded only by an unexplainable desire to parade said vivid imagination in a rather embarrassing attempt to be interesting by possessing some secret knowledge. By all means of respect, but you come across as a 13 year old.

You are neither the first nor will you be the last to pass through here with such silly claims. Feel free to make yourself the laughing stock of UM; personally I would prefer to utilize the vast amount of knowledge offered up for free here at UM by a bunch of highly skilled professionals with years of experience over a broad range of fields.

Cheers,

Badeskov

I have my source you have yours..period!

[Likely Guy]

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20% of the worlds wonders were built and 80% was done over by not the first race to do it,lol,what they use ropes???

That sentence makes no sense (especially the bolded part). What do you mean? There are 'man made' wonders and 'natural' wonders and what does ropes have to do with anything?