seeder Posted December 2, 2015 #1 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Is there anything left after the ruskie bombs? BREAKING NEWS: Britain WILL bomb Syria: Fighter jets will start airstrikes on ISIS Syrian stronghold within hours after MPs back bombings by 397 votes to 223 RAF to send Tornados and Typhoons into action within hours after result Hilary Benn speech helped persuade 67 Labour MPs to back bombing Cameron said UK must answer call from allies to defeat the 'death cult' But PM faced questions over claim opponents are 'terrorist sympathisers' Corbyn denied he is advocating 'pacifism' as he warns of 'mission creep' But Labour MPs tore into his refusal to answer pleas from France for help Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3343475/MPs-airstrikes-against-ISIS-Syria.html#ixzz3tD2sGWj9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEHC Posted December 3, 2015 #2 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I am not sure what they are trying to accomplish with airstrikes. They have no reliable ground force other than the Kurds in Northern Syria. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted December 3, 2015 #3 Share Posted December 3, 2015 British MPs approve airstrikes on Islamic State targets in Syria December 2, 2015 http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/british-mps-approve-airstrikes-on-islamic-state-targets-in-syria-1.2682906 LONDON -- British lawmakers voted by a wide margin Wednesday to join the international campaign of airstrikes against the Islamic State group in Syria, after Prime Minister David Cameron asserted that bombing the "medieval monsters" in their heartland would make Britain safer. The 397-223 vote in the House of Commons means Royal Air Force fighter jets -- already operating against IS in Iraq from a base in Cyprus -- could be flying over Syria within hours. Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond told Channel 4 news that the strikes would begin "very quickly ... probably not tonight but it could be tomorrow night." Anti-war protesters outside Parliament booed as they learned the result of the vote. continued @ link ***** From the river that runs through Baghdad to the shores of the Mediterranean the dream of Greater Israel just might become the future reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted December 3, 2015 #4 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Just curious..... Did the Brits even bother calling Syria and asking for permission to bomb their country? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 3, 2015 #5 Share Posted December 3, 2015 As i explained here why he's deluded. That's the thing, as I said, about "ISIS". Just like Al Qaeda*, even if it does exist as an organisation, anyone can claim that they were "inspired" by them or whatever when they do something they've planned entirely by themselves. Even if ISIS was completely annihilated, that wouldn't make the slightest difference to anyone deranged enough. They'd hardly be likely to abandon extremism, would they. That's why D. Cameron is deluded. * who of course are on our side now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 3, 2015 #6 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Certainly from the point of view of general security on the Middle East (and for the people of Syria), bringing the civil war to and end as quickly as possible can only be a good thing, but the best way to do that would be to co-operate, or at the very least not hinder, those who do have a strategy and the resources and the will to do it in the way that would be necessary - which means getting down to actually fighting - in other words the Syrian army and the Kurds, supported by Russian air power - or simply just keep out of it and let them get on with it. But arguing that it would somehow prevent extremists from planning attacks in Britain is a complete non sequitur. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted December 3, 2015 #7 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Just curious..... Did the Brits even bother calling Syria and asking for permission to bomb their country? I doubt we did, we seem to be justifying this intervention into a sovereign state (Syria) on twisted logic. the UN is just a talking shop. You can invade and bomb any country you want. (as long as their weak enough not to fight back) I wonder how long before Russian troops are on the ground in Syria, and what involvement will the Chinese. (as their Navy as been in the Med training with the russians) Back to our involvment within two hours four RAF Tornadoes took off from Cyprus and bombed inside syria. apparently we hit oil fields that ISIS control. so lets get this right, for 18 months the USA, France Australia, Canada and a small number of others have been bombing Syria - Why wasnt these targets taken out earlier, if they are a source of funding for ISIS. - Just how serious are the "coalition" taking this fight. We've just walked into a none sided battle. making it up as we go along. what can possibly go wrong. Edited December 3, 2015 by stevewinn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted December 3, 2015 #8 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I guess these oil camps just keep proping up, replacing the ones were lost. The Assad regime will complain but they wont care if Britain attacks Isis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted December 3, 2015 #9 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I guess these oil camps just keep proping up, replacing the ones were lost. The Assad regime will complain but they wont care if Britain attacks Isis If we assume Russia helps Assad retake his country, and I suspect we can, then Assad's govt will have legitimate grounds to claim compensation from the US/UK and allies for the destruction of infrastructure, etc. Only by working with Assad's govt would those nations have a credible legal defence against such a claim. While there is far more being sacrificed here than a considerable chunk of money - our principles as "nations operating under a rule of law" spring to mind - the economic cost to the "West" of this foolish escapade is likely to be significant and ongoing. But those in power (and in the arms industries) won't suffer, the rest of us will just be asked to tighten our belts as more "austerity" is required to support those who are profiting. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted December 3, 2015 #10 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Just curious..... Did the Brits even bother calling Syria and asking for permission to bomb their country? Do they call the Rebels, The Government, or the People of Syria ? If a known psychotic, pedophile, mass murderer is hiding living in your back yard, do the Police or anyone else need your permission to take him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted December 3, 2015 #11 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Do they call the Rebels, The Government, or the People of Syria ? If a known psychotic, pedophile, mass murderer is hiding living in your back yard, do the Police or anyone else need your permission to take him out? Last time I checked it was the Assad Government in Syria. Syria hasn't attacked Britain and Britain hasn't issued a formal declaration of war on Syria...... so....... according to International law without permission from the Syrian government the British military jets cannot legally fly within or drop bombs inside Syrian borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted December 3, 2015 #12 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Is there anything left after the ruskie bombs? Await the crafty air snipe attempt on Assad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 3, 2015 #13 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Await the crafty air snipe attempt on Assad? "Oops, our pinpoint precision laser guided bombs accidentally took out the foul tyrant accidentally hit Assad's Presidential palace. We will now have to instal a puppet a transitional leader to ensure that the country does not descend into chaos while we milk its oil reserves while we work hard to ensure stability, freedom and Democracy." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted December 3, 2015 Author #14 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Let the Syrians vote on their own leadership... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted December 3, 2015 #15 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Let the Syrians vote on their own leadership... They wont let them have an open vote because most are behind Assad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 3, 2015 #16 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) The mission to target so-called Islamic State militants in Syria could take "some time" and will require persistence, PM David Cameron has said. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34998491 What, dropping as many as four bombs a day? It'll be over by Christmas. Edited December 3, 2015 by Norbert the Powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 3, 2015 #17 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It comes as two additional Tornados and six Typhoons have been despatched to the region to take part in attacks. So that'll leave as many as two helicopters and a glider to defend the UK, then. * Oh, and I think they may be able to supplement the air defence forces with a balloon, as long as it's not too windy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud the mackem Posted December 3, 2015 #18 Share Posted December 3, 2015 We shall have to get ready for the phrase "One of our aircraft is missing", Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 3, 2015 #19 Share Posted December 3, 2015 We shall have to get ready for the phrase "One of our aircraft is missing", Probably shot down by Turkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted December 3, 2015 #20 Share Posted December 3, 2015 The speed with which government works to bomb is astonishing. Does Britain have any domestic problems on which government reacted so quickly? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Br Cornelius Posted December 3, 2015 #21 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I have been listening to various Minsters of the Tory Government on the BBC 4 Today program over the last few days. The message still is that this is primarily about removing Assad so a new elected government can be established. They are brazen everywhere but in the Commons it seems. A very dark day for Britain. Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted December 3, 2015 #22 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I have been listening to various Minsters of the Tory Government on the BBC 4 Today program over the last few days. The message still is that this is primarily about removing Assad so a new elected government can be established. They are brazen everywhere but in the Commons it seems. A very dark day for Britain. Br Cornelius I ve said before this anti Assad obsession is comparable to the religious obsession of Isis . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted December 3, 2015 #23 Share Posted December 3, 2015 What I dont understand is that the people protesting some of them had Free Syrian flags. So im not sure what the Free Syrian Supporters plan to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 3, 2015 #24 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I ve said before this anti Assad obsession is comparable to the religious obsession of Isis . Oh, it's quite rational. He (like Iran) are standing in the way of Israel's ambition to dominate the Middle East. Er, I mean he's a foul tyrant who murders his own people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted December 3, 2015 #25 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Oh, it's quite rational. He (like Iran) are standing in the way of Israel's ambition to dominate the Middle East. Er, I mean he's a foul tyrant who murders his own people. It's really going to turn worse for Israel is Isis penetrates Palestinian. Isis doesn't seem to be one that can be controlled or contained once it gains momentum using them to get your dirty work done is really dumb choice they are not going to disappear once Assad is gone. This will turn Syria into one more Iraq with weekly car bombings and shootings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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