Sir Wearer of Hats Posted December 9, 2015 #101 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Diagnosed with paranoia? mental health comcerns? But that can't be true, he's the vanguard of an elite force of extremist jihadis who want to impose sharia law. That's what the purveyors of hysteria have been telling us. Now now Norbert, we both know youre only a paranoid with mental health issues if you're a Christian. If you're a Muslim you're a Terrorismist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra. Posted December 9, 2015 #102 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Just another example of the distinction between mental illness - or just an intelligent 'lone wolf' terrorist. They came to the conclusion that his mental health was a factor. He also had a criminal history of sorts. How this guy slipped under the radar before the siege - is anybody's guess. Experts are split on whether Sydney siege gunman Man Haron Monis was a terrorist or whether he was acting as a result of mental illness. http://www.abc.net.a...illness/6726772 Edited December 9, 2015 by Astra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted December 10, 2015 #103 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) It constantly amazes me, as a Christian, that people pull out the Old Testament from the Bible and call it Christian belief. Since most of what is in the OT is there to back up the coming of Jesus, not as a set of rules. Yet the Jews.... The OT is basically what they still operate out of isn't it??? Yet, you don't see anyone accusing the Jews of cutting off people's hands and stoning woman to death... I wonder why? Edited December 10, 2015 by DieChecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted December 10, 2015 #104 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) It constantly amazes me, as a Christian, that people pull out the Old Testament from the Bible and call it Christian belief. Since most of what is in the OT is there to back up the coming of Jesus, not as a set of rules. Yet the Jews.... The OT is basically what they still operate out of isn't it??? Yet, you don't see anyone accusing the Jews of cutting off people's hands and stoning woman to death... I wonder why? mostly because the whole canon was thrown overboard shortly after the Jews got kicked out of Holy Land by the Romans (what we know as Judaism today has little semblance to it 2000+ years ago), since then many of the biblical laws have become obsolete... and have remained thus. Edited December 10, 2015 by questionmark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 10, 2015 #105 Share Posted December 10, 2015 mostly because the whole canon was thrown overboard shortly after the Jews got kicked out of Holy Land by the Romans (what we know as Judaism today has little semblance to it 2000+ years ago), since then many of the biblical laws have become obsolete... and have remained thus. except a few carefully selected ones referring to homosexuality, of course. They're still valid. Among a certain brand of "Christians", at any rate, though funnily enough not Jews, who on the whole seem a lot more relaxed about these kinds of issues than either hardline "Christians" or Muslims. What are we to make of this? I've no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted December 11, 2015 #106 Share Posted December 11, 2015 mostly because the whole canon was thrown overboard shortly after the Jews got kicked out of Holy Land by the Romans (what we know as Judaism today has little semblance to it 2000+ years ago), since then many of the biblical laws have become obsolete... and have remained thus. And yet Christian haters still pull the same quotes up, that are equally obsolete, and use them to demonize Christians? Does the Torah contain the laws of Deuteronomy, and Leviticus, or not? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah Yes, yes it does contain those books. If someone took the Torah in book form and put a Koran cover on it, they could do the same thing the video did with the Bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 11, 2015 #107 Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) And yet Christian haters still pull the same quotes up, that are equally obsolete, and use them to demonize Christians? Does the Torah contain the laws of Deuteronomy, and Leviticus, or not? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah Yes, yes it does contain those books. If someone took the Torah in book form and put a Koran cover on it, they could do the same thing the video did with the Bible. well, they're the same thing up to the point Jesus comes onto the scene, or not, depending on your point of view, aren't they. It is funny though how one or two of the carefully selected laws are still taken to be valid if it suits people's particular fixations (though nearly all of them among people who call themselves "Christian", Jews, as I said, don't seem to get nearly as fixated on such matters). Edited December 11, 2015 by Norbert the Powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted December 11, 2015 #108 Share Posted December 11, 2015 well, they're the same thing up to the point Jesus comes onto the scene, or not, depending on your point of view, aren't they. It is funny though how one or two of the carefully selected laws are still taken to be valid if it suits people's particular fixations (though nearly all of them among people who call themselves "Christian", Jews, as I said, don't seem to get nearly as fixated on such matters). That's true, but I believe it is because there are 14 million, or 20 million, Jews, depending on who you talk to... And about 2.2 billion Christians. When you have 100 times the population, you're bound to have greater diversity represented. Even the Jews are basically divided into denominations, just not as many as the Christians. It probably wouldn't be too hard to find a Jewish denomination that is every bit as OT hardcore as any Christian. I googled some stuff supporting this, do you want me to post it? Example: http://www.reformjudaism.org/learning-love-leviticus Leviticus has been called the heart of the Torah because of its placement at the center of the text and for its central locale, which is set at Sinai. But on a deeper level, Leviticus is truly the heart of the Torah because her central message is the search for holiness, which is at the heart of our desire to read the Torah and to live a life that is guided by its teachings. Some would say that Leviticus is more or less a strict list of rules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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