100,000 Sign 'Ban Trump From UK' Petition

[+joc]

If been PC means not acquiescing to the latest military adventurism and johny come lately tyrant in the making then I am all for people expressing disgust at those in power.

For far to long politicians have ignored the outspoken wishes of the people to do exactly what people in authority always do. There were 1 million Britain’s who protested the first war in Iraq and yet Tony Blair still took us into that illegal conflict - but Tony was booted out of power because ignoring the people is a fools errand in the end.

Br Cornelius

The conflict wasn't 'illegal'. The problem really is that it was and still is A War on Terrorism. It should have been a War on Terrorist Countries...they should have all been named...and we should have Declared War on them. You cannot wage war against an ambiguous term. One cannot declare war for example on ISIS...because once ISIS is defeated they morph into something else...one can only wage war against a country...like..Iraq...and we obliterated Iraq...4th largest standing army on the planet...BAM ...gone.... and we lacked resolve to go into Iran...if you start a war and lose your resolve...you lose the war. Period. I mean really....who starts a war and then leaves it to the next president to finish? Bad...really bad idea! Either win the damn thing or don't start it. Bush lost resolve...we lost. Obama pulled out...the world lost. I'm rambling....

The term PC should only apply to that thing on your desk (unless it is a Mac) that it governs our everyday lives and limits the freedom of speech in so many ways is ridiculously sad

[LV-426]

Because they're not. They're just boxers.

A distinctly unintelligent reply to an intelligent post by CrimsonKing, who clearly has experience on the subject.

I think you need to grab a dictionary and actually understand what a role model is.

[LV-426]

Its nice to see Trump standing up and challenging the actions of people instead of falling over backwards to tell us it's a religion of peace and all is well, Yet quite clearly its not. where spending Billions and costing lives fighting Islamic terrorists. - As trump himself said. shut down Moslems coming to the US, until the countrys representatives figure out what the hell is going on. - and that's the point what the hell is going on.

Where dropping bombs on Syria meanwhile the back door is wide open, and many simply walking through the front.

To be fair, it's not really about whether there's any validity in concerns over Islam. I've made my own views clear on that in other threads.

Trump's like a man using a bazooka instead of an air rifle to knock down targets at a carnival attraction. How many people has he p***ed off this week alone? Muslims, people with disabilities... anyone who uses the internet?

I've kind of got sidetracked with the whole Tyson Fury thing, but in all honesty I don't have any problem with Trump being allowed into the UK... or indeed with Fury airing his views publicly. If you give people like this enough rope and they'll hang themselves.

Edited December 10, 2015 by LV-426

[Iron_Lotus]

A distinctly unintelligent reply to an intelligent post by CrimsonKing, who clearly has experience on the subject.

I think you need to grab a dictionary and actually understand what a role model is.

that may be too hard for someone like him, the dictionary may very well be a tool of the leftist elite to stifle and maintain this pc world and bring it closer and closer to being like north korea.

[Deleted]

Nothing wrong with Donald Trump or his views. What he's calling for is no different to when the British Government restricted travel to this country to Irish citizens when it was they who were prone to blowing people up (and those Irish who did enter Britain had to register at the nearest police station). As far as I know, there weren't masses of people then calling the government "racist!" and "bigoted!". In those far more sensible, less PC and more grown-up times we just allowed the government to do what is necessary to keep us safe.

Also, how on Earth did we get by in the days before online petitions were invented? Times must have been tough! There's even one now calling for "sexist" Tyson Fury (a Christian, by the way, and therefore not looked highly upon by the Liberal Establishment and the Twitterati) to be taken out of contention for BBC Sports Personality of the year just because he said on Twitter how pretty Jessica Ennis-Hill looks with a dress on, and thus doing exactly what thousands upon thousands of women do on Twitter and Facebook nearly every week (with hardly anyone complaining) with the likes of David Beckham and Aidan Turner when they are topless.

Still it was racist and just shows how stupid the GB government reacts. Additionqlly they werent banned from traveling.

[Guest Br Cornelius]

The conflict wasn't 'illegal'.

It was based upon a premeditated lie designed to deceive Parliament into going against its natural inclination to refuse to go to war - which made it illegal.

Deliberately lying to Parliament to instigate war amounts to treason.

The invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with the war on terror since it was both planned before 911 and took a country free of terrorists and turned it into the most potent breeding ground of terrorists the world has ever seen.

Br Cornelius

Edited December 10, 2015 by Br Cornelius

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Because they're not. They're just boxers.

I wouldn't want my child to grow up into Anthony Mundine, that's not because he's a boxer, but because he's an arrogant, loud, merchant banker. I wouldn't lose sleep if they grew up into Danny Green though. Conversely, I would want them to idolise Tiger Woods, Tony Abbott or Jeff Meldrum either.

[Black Monk]

KATIE HOPKINS? HA that woman needs to be put in a secure mental home. Its like quoting Donald duck.

Why? Because, like Mr Trump, she dares to say what the right-on, PC British and American Establishments daren't?

People like Hopkins and Trump are hated by the Left because they see the world as it is and aren't scared to say it. They don't pathetically pussyfoot around being all PC and right-on and being blind to the disturbing truth.

About Trump even the hardliners of the Republican party are turning against him

Just a pity for you that the voters aren't.

I'd love it if both Mr Trump wins the presidency and Mr Fury wins BBC Sports Personality of the year (as he thoroughly deserves to). It really would be American and British voters sending out the message that they are on a completely different wavelength to the PC Brigade weirdos.

Edited December 11, 2015 by Black Monk

[questionmark]

somebody should change that figure to 1,000,000.

But congrats Mr. Trump, you will be the first whose worthiness will be debated in a foreign parliament even before you get voted in.

[Black Monk]

Still it was racist

Says who?

[Black Monk]

RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: The BBC is commendably refusing to exclude Tyson Fury from Sports Personality of the Year... but would it have behaved differently if he hadn't been a gipsy?

To be honest, until he won the world heavyweight boxing championship, I’d never heard of Tyson Fury. My first reaction was to wonder if he was any relation of Billy Fury, the Sixties pop star, of Halfway To Paradise fame.

I’d be surprised if many of you had heard of him, either. Nor, I would imagine, had most of the 900 million people — or whatever the number is today — who are demanding that Fury is banned from the BBC’s Sports Personality Of The Year competition.

But when did ignorance ever stop them? Along with professional provocateur Donald Trump, Fury finds himself the latest target of a social media lynch mob. His crime is to have expressed some ripe opinions about homosexuality and a woman’s place in society (on her back and in the kitchen).

When I read Fury’s remarks, I couldn’t stop laughing. It’s not that I agree with him, far from it, simply that I was anticipating the eruption of faux outrage which would follow.

Anyone who deviates from the ‘acceptable’ limits of free speech these days should expect to be treated as a pariah. Social media is a release valve for show-offs, semi-literate losers and sexual inadequates. It gives them somewhere to feel good about their own pathetic lives.

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Edited December 11, 2015 by Black Monk

[Guest Br Cornelius]

I'd love it if both Mr Trump wins the presidency and Mr Fury wins BBC Sports Personality of the year

Your going to be disapointed on both counts

But I should say your'd be well used to that at this stage

Br Cornelius

Edited December 12, 2015 by Br Cornelius

[Space Commander Travis]

RICHARD LITTLEJOHN rants in bold large font

|from what you said yesterday about the EDL and Pegida being heroes, i'd expect nothing less than you relaying the splutterings of that nutcase.

[questionmark]

in related news:

UK responds to petition calling to ban Trump

LONDON, Jan. 1 (UPI) -- A petition to ban GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump from the United Kingdom garnered more than 500,000 signatures, prompting a response from the British government.

In a statement, the government said that while the Home Secretary does have the ability to ban someone from the United Kingdom if their presence is "non-conducive to the public good," the government does not comment on individual cases.

"The Home Secretary has said that coming to the UK is a privilege and not a right and she will continue to use the powers available to prevent from entering the UK those who seek to harm our society and who do not share our basic values," the statement said.

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[stevewinn]

These petitions are a load of Rubbish, Years ago when you signed a petition and it was handed over to National government those signatures and the addresses of those signatories was duly noted by the security services as "potential trouble causes to the state" these days the process is much easier being electronic, with people jumping on the # bandwagon.

A great example of these petitions is the Tyson Fury saga, over 100,000 people signed the petition to get him removed from the BBC's Sports Personality. - Yet on the day of the BBC's sports Personality show, Just 40 people turned up to protest. yes that's right 40 people. Just shows how strong the feeling of the 100,000 was hey.

These people who sign these petitions are just people who want to belong, be part of something which they perceive to be much bigger than themselves. you only have to see the interviews with such people, they cant even construct and coherent sentence as to why they are protesting or signing a petition. usually stuttering and repeating themselves.

So be it the Donald Trump or the Tyson Fury petition, its not got one once of credibility as to true public opinion. but # - trending - Faceache media it fills the pages.

Edited January 2, 2016 by stevewinn

[questionmark]

well, to the shock of Steve:

UK lawmakers to debate petition seeking ban on Trump

British lawmakers are to hold a debate on a petition signed by more than half a million people calling for U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump to be barred from Britain after his proposal to stop Muslims entering the United States.

The debate, called by the Petitions Committee of the lower house of parliament, will be held on Jan. 18 but will not be followed by a vote.

The British government responds to all petitions that gain more than 10,000 signatures and topics are considered for parliamentary debate if they reach 100,000.

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Guess they are keeping the vote for after the US elections, should Trump win they will cozy up to him, should he loose he won't enter the UK. That is called Realpolitik.

[questionmark]

in related news:

Donald Trump threatens to pull £700m investment in Scotland

Donald Trump has threatened to withhold £700m of investment in Scotland if he is banned from entering the UK.

The Trump Organisation has given the warning after it emerged MPs are to debate calls for the controversial US presidential candidate to be banned from the UK.

It followed his controversial comments about Muslims, after more than half a million people signed a petition.

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Looks like it hit a nerve, dinnit?

[Space Commander Travis]

What a big load of nonsense this all is. The funniest thing is, if H. Clinton, known criminal and the one that bears responsibility for the murder of thousands, wanted to pay a visit to her loyal sycophants, she'd be given a state welcome and D. Cameron would be waiting at the airport to fawn all over her.

[stevewinn]

well, to the shock of Steve:

Guess they are keeping the vote for after the US elections, should Trump win they will cozy up to him, should he loose he won't enter the UK. That is called Realpolitik.

Question mark you are putting too much credence in this whole e-petitions malarkey. If it reaches 100,000 signatories the petition will be considered for a debate in Parliament. usually proposed by a no-mark MP, usually who has a politically career spanning no longer than the life of a Mayfly.

The e-petition debates are like this picture. which shows a e-petition debate on making Muslim religious holidays a public holiday in England.

e-petition on immigration.

There are more people in my living room.

So bear this in mind Q, when you get that warm fuzzy feeling. - and lets be honest, Donald Trump calls to ban moslems entering the USA, and the lefties get excited, expecting him to be banned from entering the UK, Yet i ask where are the same people calling for the banning of radical moslem preachers, who lets remember are allowed to not only enter the UK, but into the heart of the British Moslem communities to spread hatred and bile. and your worried about Trump, c'mon lad get your act together.

We live in a country of 63 Million people. These petitions hold no sway. i've watched these debates on the Parliament channel a few times. those who sign the petition dont even make up 0.5% of the population. its hardly a barometer to gauge public opinion.

Edited January 7, 2016 by stevewinn

[Ashotep]

Not only will he pull his billion dollar investment out he said there won't be any future investments either. I don't see them banning him.

Edited January 8, 2016 by Ashotep

[Ashotep]

Question mark you are putting too much credence in this whole e-petitions malarkey. If it reaches 100,000 signatories the petition will be considered for a debate in Parliament. usually proposed by a no-mark MP, usually who has a politically career spanning no longer than the life of a Mayfly.

The e-petition debates are like this picture. which shows a e-petition debate on making Muslim religious holidays a public holiday in England.

e-petition on immigration.

There are more people in my living room.

So bear this in mind Q, when you get that warm fuzzy feeling. - and lets be honest, Donald Trump calls to ban moslems entering the USA, and the lefties get excited, expecting him to be banned from entering the UK, Yet i ask where are the same people calling for the banning of radical moslem preachers, who lets remember are allowed to not only enter the UK, but into the heart of the British Moslem communities to spread hatred and bile. and your worried about Trump, c'mon lad get your act together.

We live in a country of 63 Million people. These petitions hold no sway. i've watched these debates on the Parliament channel a few times. those who sign the petition dont even make up 0.5% of the population. its hardly a barometer to gauge public opinion.

You wouldn't believe how often bills get passed here when only half of congress shows up. Bet Trump will read them the riot act over that if he becomes president.

[mbrn30000]

Not only will he pull his billion dollar investment out he said there won't be any future investments either. I don't see them banning him.

Trump is a brand. he is not an investor. he has tricked mostly the Asian world to think he is synonymous with Class..i hate that word, but that is what he has done. There is no investing he can pull out. He is taking his brand to zero. Finally he might have a bankruptcy to wow all bankruptcies. It will be huge. he was already run out of Atlantic City and eventually he can move back to queens. He is going to run out of daddy's money.

[odas]

Trump is a brand. he is not an investor. he has tricked mostly the Asian world to think he is synonymous with Class..i hate that word, but that is what he has done. There is no investing he can pull out. He is taking his brand to zero. Finally he might have a bankruptcy to wow all bankruptcies. It will be huge. he was already run out of Atlantic City and eventually he can move back to queens. He is going to run out of daddy's money.

As far as i know the Scotts did not want him there in the first place.

[Black Monk]

Piers Morgan: Why I’m so embarrassed today for Britain. The same parliament that hasn’t banned a single UK citizen from returning after fighting for ISIS is seriously debating banning Trump from its shores

King Salman of Saudia Arabia can allow 50 people to be beheaded last month, yet he is treated like some kind of deity when he arrives in Britain in his fleet of gold-plated jets.

Russian President Vladimir Putin commits and spouts all manner of despicable, murderous, bigoted things and Britain welcomes him with State dinners at Buckingham Palace and handshakes outside Downing Street.

As for Chinese President Xi Jinping, there is barely enough room in my expansive sick bucket to cope with my involuntary spewing at all the sycophantic grovelling that goes on when he swings into my home country.

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Edited January 19, 2016 by Black Monk

[Space Commander Travis]

So that was about a waste of time, wasn't it. They didn't even have a vote on it, it was just an opportunity for a few MPs who feel they haven't been getting enough publicity to bluster a bit.

What manner of despicable, murderous, bigoted things has President Vladimir Putin spouted, by the way? Could Piers provide a list? To be quite honest with you, he seems, like the Donald, one of the few leaders (or in the Donald';s case, would-be leaders) who has any grasp on sense.

Edited January 19, 2016 by Otto von Pickelhaube