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Did you ever hear of Mithras, Horus, Krishna, and Prometheus being born December 25th, from a virgin, and had 12 disciples? You have Acharya S to thank. You may have seen Zeitgeist Religion floating around Youtube? She had hands on that too.

She used shotty scholarship from the 19th, and 18th century as authority. Her false histories made it on Bill Maher's Religulous movie.

I still see this stuff being used by people here and there. I ran into some of her devout followers in the past on the web. When pressed for evidence they fell short.

I do have her to thank. I ran into her disinformation, but luckily I checked it's accuracy. I was looking into why people believe, but she peaked my interest into what society never let me in on before. This was the possibility that Jesus the man was an entire myth.

I'm sure Christians see her Christmas passing as confirmation. May they buy her Astrotheology calender to help pay her post mortem bills instead of saying "Now she knows".

RIP Dorothy. May your bad give way to good.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acharya_S

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Breast cancer is a terrible way to go and death is always hard, especially in the season of rebirth and renewal.

I was intrigued to see there was an online appeal for money to treat the cancer with over $60000 dollars raised.

I might be criticised for this, but i find it sadly ironic that a Christ myther dies on Christmas day and despite modern medical treatment. Totally coincidental, but still sadly ironic.

I can't help wondering if belief/faith and spiritual healing, might have helped her, as clinical trials in Israel show it can. It could not have hurt as an additional form of treatment, and It would certainly have cost nothing financially

. I also thank my lucky stars I live in Australia, where my mother had breast cancer, and her treatments (which kept her alive and well for years) cost nothing. NOT ONE CENT.

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Breast cancer is a terrible way to go and death is always hard, especially in the season of rebirth and renewal.

I was intrigued to see there was an online appeal for money to treat the cancer with over $60000 dollars raised.

I might be criticised for this, but i find it sadly ironic that a Christ myther dies on Christmas day and despite modern medical treatment. Totally coincidental, but still sadly ironic.

I can't help wondering if belief/faith and spiritual healing, might have helped her, as clinical trials in Israel show it can. It could not have hurt as an additional form of treatment, and It would certainly have cost nothing financially

. I also thank my lucky stars I live in Australia, where my mother had breast cancer, and her treatments (which kept her alive and well for years) cost nothing. NOT ONE CENT.

She had a fan base that's a substitute for placebo spiritual treatment. She also had a preteen son. I never visit her Truthbeknown website so I did not know she had cancer.

Some cancers in people are more aggressive than others.

I wonder if guilt from her history blunders that have been criticized effected her health?

Yes. It's expensive getting sick here, especially without insurance.

Here's a podcast with Aronra about Moses she was in if anyone is interested. I was shocked Aronra said Robert M Price recommended her for the interview, and I was somewhat impressed. If I remember correctly Aron asked her about her Jesus mythicism works, and she audibly sighed some frustration?

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I always think it's awful for someone passing. Even if a long life has been lived, I still find it sad. :(

What ever her beliefs or such, and the fact that she could be wrong, and others right. *winks at Davros * I hope she was at peace at her time of passing. ( I didn't go to the link......... was there one? ............ sorry )

I do hope, no matter of the belief or lack of one, I do hope good people are at peace during such times. :yes:

To drive the attention away from such people and their loss, to praise one's own situation, is a lack of respect I feel.

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I always think it's awful for someone passing. Even if a long life has been lived, I still find it sad. :(

What ever her beliefs or such, and the fact that she could be wrong, and others right. *winks at Davros * I hope she was at peace at her time of passing. ( I didn't go to the link......... was there one? ............ sorry )

I do hope, no matter of the belief or lack of one, I do hope good people are at peace during such times. :yes:

To drive the attention away from such people and their loss, to praise one's own situation, is a lack of respect I feel.

And, for her family my heart goes out to them. I can't see using anyone's death as an oppourtunity to be holier then especially coming from one who had to have a triple by pass, perhaps it was genetic in her case too. Oy vey.

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I always think it's awful for someone passing. Even if a long life has been lived, I still find it sad. :(

What ever her beliefs or such, and the fact that she could be wrong, and others right. *winks at Davros * I hope she was at peace at her time of passing. ( I didn't go to the link......... was there one? ............ sorry )

I do hope, no matter of the belief or lack of one, I do hope good people are at peace during such times. :yes:

To drive the attention away from such people and their loss, to praise one's own situation, is a lack of respect I feel.

Just look at the comments in this video she made updating her condition a couple of months ago.

Despite being wrong on key historical points, there's people thanking her for a positive effect she had on their lives.

This thread is about truth, and death never takes a break while the former does (especially when emotions are involved).

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I always think it's awful for someone passing. Even if a long life has been lived, I still find it sad. :(

What ever her beliefs or such, and the fact that she could be wrong, and others right. *winks at Davros * I hope she was at peace at her time of passing. ( I didn't go to the link......... was there one? ............ sorry )

I do hope, no matter of the belief or lack of one, I do hope good people are at peace during such times. :yes:

To drive the attention away from such people and their loss, to praise one's own situation, is a lack of respect I feel.

I agree totally with your first paragraph. As for the second, as i am the only poster other than davros, it must be directed at me but i cant see how . Do you expect some sort of hypocrisy? I was being kind but honest. Cancer has many causes and even with breast cancers there are more aggressive types However, ALWAYS, a person's mental state and condition of their mind will affect their health I agree with davros that conflict and controversy, creating stress, might have made her condition worse. And it is only denial, and foolish, to avoid the fact that faith and belief can offer some protection from cancer induced or aggravated by mental/ bodily stress, and add to recovery rates . (according to recent studies in Israel)

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And, for her family my heart goes out to them. I can't see using anyone's death as an oppourtunity to be holier then especially coming from one who had to have a triple by pass, perhaps it was genetic in her case too. Oy vey.

As this is more clearly directed at me i will add an additional comment First, where did any holier than though statement appear in my first post This originated in your mind.

Second, if someone died from smoking, would you not agree that, while mourning their loss, you might comment on how it might have been avoided . It is FACT that faith/belief helps with medical conditions, even including cancer.

That does not mean that modern science should not be fully utilised but that a spiritual belief offers an additional layer of protection. ( i can see why a deliberate non believer might feel a little uncomfortable or even threatened by this fact, as a smoker might feel on hearing that smoking can kill) There is nothing holy in this so, it cant be holier than thou. It is like recommending someone give up smoking. or do anything else to improve their health.

My point was tha t as an obvious skeptic she missed out on a potential help, both in protecting from cancer, and from ameliorating its effects.

You might not agree with this view, but it is a factually based one.

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As this is more clearly directed at me i will add an additional comment First, where did any holier than though statement appear in my first post This originated in your mind.

Second, if someone died from smoking, would you not agree that, while mourning their loss, you might comment on how it might have been avoided . It is FACT that faith/belief helps with medical conditions, even including cancer.

That does not mean that modern science should not be fully utilised but that a spiritual belief offers an additional layer of protection. ( i can see why a deliberate non believer might feel a little uncomfortable or even threatened by this fact, as a smoker might feel on hearing that smoking can kill) There is nothing holy in this so, it cant be holier than thou. It is like recommending someone give up smoking. or do anything else to improve their health.

My point was tha t as an obvious skeptic she missed out on a potential help, both in protecting from cancer, and from ameliorating its effects.

You might not agree with this view, but it is a factually based one.

Absolutely not, it is not for me to pass judgment on how another choses to live the life they have to live, and then talk crap about them after they are dead. They are gone, the family is still sad like Sharon says it's a respect thing.

The only time I have ever suggested not smoking or drinking was to my own kids,( yet now as adults it's not my place/ but no one smokes or drinks so it's not an issue) and once I reminded my sister she needed to be 300 yards from me before lighting up a cigarette as it could have a direct affect on my health and she respected that. I have no preference in that she smokes it is on her and if there are genetic consequences they will be hers to deal with not mine, and she very well could have them because my mom died of small cell lung cancer which is related to smoking, but she knows this and it's her choice to smoke or not, not mine, and truthfully, I genetically hope the best for her.

Some people enjoy smoking so much they are willing to take their chances and this is their choice and right as long as it is within the respect for the law and most pay higher insurance premiums too. It's their choice. And the good thing is it's never to late to quit as one will reap the physical benefits regardless of how long they smoked.

You smoked once upon a time so did I, you know the mind of the smoker better than anyone being one, and you wouldn't have listened either. You have to let people be instead of trying to rationalize all the time why you have the right to impose your "now you know betters on them."

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Just look at the comments in this video she made updating her condition a couple of months ago.

Despite being wrong on key historical points, there's people thanking her for a positive effect she had on their lives.

This thread is about truth, and death never takes a break while the former does (especially when emotions are involved).

Thanks for the link. Googling her names, I find a lot of her books familiar. In fact, I thought both her names seemed familiar to me. I have found, for countless customers, her books. I am going to have to wait to get back to work to see if anything was mentioned of her death. Weird enough as it is, I tend to catch the news of author's passing. There are a lot of people who didn't realize Oliver Sachs had passed away. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/31/insider/an-outpouring-of-reader-reflection-after-the-death-of-oliver-sacks.html?_r=0

Ps: I did read some of the comments underneath the video. I see what you mean.

Absolutely not, it is not for me to pass judgment on how another choses to live the life they have to live, and then talk crap about them after they are dead. They are gone, the family is still sad like Sharon says it's a respect thing.

Exactly. And, I don't believe it will go over very well with the family, if one goes on about how that person did it to themselves, and how it could have been avoided, when it is already too late.

And what I am getting from the youtube link Davros put in his reply to me, wasn't it breast cancer? How is that preventable? Yeah, you can try to detect it early enough to take care of it. But sometimes, it doesn't get detected early enough. This is not about smoking. Where the heck did that come from?

The only time I have ever suggested not smoking or drinking was to my own kids,( yet now as adults it's not my place/ but no one smokes or drinks so it's not an issue) and once I reminded my sister she needed to be 300 yards from me before lighting up a cigarette as it could have a direct affect on my health and she respected that. I have no preference in that she smokes it is on her and if there are genetic consequences they will be hers to deal with not mine, and she very well could have them because my mom died of small cell lung cancer which is related to smoking, but she knows this and it's her choice to smoke or not, not mine, and truthfully, I genetically hope the best for her.

Some people enjoy smoking so much they are willing to take their chances and this is their choice and right as long as it is within the respect for the law and most pay higher insurance premiums too. It's their choice. And the good thing is it's never to late to quit as one will reap the physical benefits regardless of how long they smoked.

You smoked once upon a time so did I, you know the mind of the smoker better than anyone being one, and you wouldn't have listened either. You have to let people be instead of trying to rationalize all the time why you have the right to impose your "now you know betters on them."

Exactly, it's not that simple. To go back to what was previously said, it's not anyone's place to judge.

I never realized, but checking out the books she has written, how much of an influence she was.

I'm thinking of you, Davros. :yes:

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Absolutely not, it is not for me to pass judgment on how another choses to live the life they have to live, and then talk crap about them after they are dead. They are gone, the family is still sad like Sharon says it's a respect thing.

The only time I have ever suggested not smoking or drinking was to my own kids,( yet now as adults it's not my place/ but no one smokes or drinks so it's not an issue) and once I reminded my sister she needed to be 300 yards from me before lighting up a cigarette as it could have a direct affect on my health and she respected that. I have no preference in that she smokes it is on her and if there are genetic consequences they will be hers to deal with not mine, and she very well could have them because my mom died of small cell lung cancer which is related to smoking, but she knows this and it's her choice to smoke or not, not mine, and truthfully, I genetically hope the best for her.

Some people enjoy smoking so much they are willing to take their chances and this is their choice and right as long as it is within the respect for the law and most pay higher insurance premiums too. It's their choice. And the good thing is it's never to late to quit as one will reap the physical benefits regardless of how long they smoked.

You smoked once upon a time so did I, you know the mind of the smoker better than anyone being one, and you wouldn't have listened either. You have to let people be instead of trying to rationalize all the time why you have the right to impose your "now you know betters on them."

This is what i mean by a false or hypocritical empathy To not comment on a cause of death which might have been avoided Is hypocritical not rational One can t avoid or deny reality with polite conventions.

That is how i view it, but i can appreciate you see it differently You were raised differently and have different priorities. I was a smoker for about 7 years (14-21) in total, out of 64 years of life. And now I am not. In my view that gives me some experience on which to make a comment. But even without it, the evidences of harm are so great that every individual has a duty to do what they can to reduce the incidence of smoking . Again this comes from within my value lines and priorities as a human being. Being polite and avoiding the issue just to avoid distress ranks FAR lower.

If you care, do you best express that care by not hurting a person's feelings, or by being honest and informative?

None of my siblings smoke, but if they did I would be quite proactive and pushy in trying to get them to quit. That is because i care. Only if i did not care could i sit back and be quiet. My conscience would push me to do all i could to protect them even if this annoyed them . What good is a loving relationship where you allow harm to befall those you love, just to maintain the peace of that relationship?. .

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Thanks for the link. Googling her names, I find a lot of her books familiar. In fact, I thought both her names seemed familiar to me. I have found, for countless customers, her books. I am going to have to wait to get back to work to see if anything was mentioned of her death. Weird enough as it is, I tend to catch the news of author's passing. There are a lot of people who didn't realize Oliver Sachs had passed away. http://www.nytimes.c...sacks.html?_r=0

Ps: I did read some of the comments underneath the video. I see what you mean.

Exactly. And, I don't believe it will go over very well with the family, if one goes on about how that person did it to themselves, and how it could have been avoided, when it is already too late.

And what I am getting from the youtube link Davros put in his reply to me, wasn't it breast cancer? How is that preventable? Yeah, you can try to detect it early enough to take care of it. But sometimes, it doesn't get detected early enough. This is not about smoking. Where the heck did that come from?

Exactly, it's not that simple. To go back to what was previously said, it's not anyone's place to judge.

I never realized, but checking out the books she has written, how much of an influence she was.

I'm thinking of you, Davros. :yes:

It is never too late to learn from the lives of others, but to do so one must be open and rational, not clouded by emotion. This does not detract from mourning or caring, To me it is a more honest expression of compassion to use a life's lessons to help others, than to ignore them . If we do not judge, how to we establish what is harmful, and what is beneficial?

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Breast cancer is a terrible way to go and death is always hard, especially in the season of rebirth and renewal.

I was intrigued to see there was an online appeal for money to treat the cancer with over $60000 dollars raised.

I might be criticised for this, but i find it sadly ironic that a Christ myther dies on Christmas day and despite modern medical treatment. Totally coincidental, but still sadly ironic.

I can't help wondering if belief/faith and spiritual healing, might have helped her, as clinical trials in Israel show it can. It could not have hurt as an additional form of treatment, and It would certainly have cost nothing financially

. I also thank my lucky stars I live in Australia, where my mother had breast cancer, and her treatments (which kept her alive and well for years) cost nothing. NOT ONE CENT.

The video of her talking about her cancer was poignantly sad. The cancer had already sapped the life out of her. I saw too much of it as a medic. I hate the disease and the oncology industry in the U.S. (I don't know about the industry in other countries.) She still expressed hope to survive. I don't know whether she was in denial or if the doctors had not fully explained her situation to her.

She said that she was Stage IV. There's no coming back from Stage IV. Sometimes they can prolong life a few months, but...

My experience with the disease (from work) just makes me feel anger about the whole thing. When she was talking I just wanted to hug her.

So sad...

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The video of her talking about her cancer was poignantly sad. The cancer had already sapped the life out of her. I saw too much of it as a medic. I hate the disease and the oncology industry in the U.S. (I don't know about the industry in other countries.) She still expressed hope to survive. I don't know whether she was in denial or if the doctors had not fully explained her situation to her.

She said that she was Stage IV. There's no coming back from Stage IV. Sometimes they can prolong life a few months, but...

My experience with the disease (from work) just makes me feel anger about the whole thing. When she was talking I just wanted to hug her.

So sad...

I don't watch videos on my computer I want to emphasise that i agree with your post One of the hardest times in my life was in the period between when a spot was detected on my wife's breast in a mammogram, and when the biopsy came back as non malignant (This took several weeks, A time i felt was medically too long) My own mother had breast cancer for the last 6 years or so of her life, but she was too old for treatment other than drugs.

My wish was that she (DM Murdock) could have found something which might have helped her more, either physically or mentally .

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My half sister died from cancer. It was preventable on her part.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_papillomavirus

Sorry to hear that Darvos.

My grandfather was diagnosed with throat cancer and refused treatment, at the time he would have had to have half his throat removed and he couldn't bear the idea of missing his throat drinking through a straw on the hope it might give him a few more years. We respected his decision. I spent a lot of time with him his last year and we talked a lot about death and he was really fine with it, he really was ready to go.

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I don't watch videos on my computer I want to emphasise that i agree with your post One of the hardest times in my life was in the period between when a spot was detected on my wife's breast in a mammogram, and when the biopsy came back as non malignant (This took several weeks, A time i felt was medically too long) My own mother had breast cancer for the last 6 years or so of her life, but she was too old for treatment other than drugs.

My wish was that she (DM Murdock) could have found something which might have helped her more, either physically or mentally .

I'm glad that your wife's spot was benign. Statistically, they usually are. And I'm glad that your mother's age spared her the atrocities of the oncology industry.

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I'm glad that your wife's spot was benign. Statistically, they usually are. And I'm glad that your mother's age spared her the atrocities of the oncology industry.

My granny had breast cancer had a mastectomy in the late 80s she was 62 she was a survivor, she went on to live until 80, died of a heart attack.

My mom got breast cancer in 2006, opted out of a mastectomy, and had a biopsy instead and chemo, amd the drug they give ( I forget the name) and died 10 years later of lung cancer ( miserable way to go).

My best friend had cancer got a double mastectomy at 31 years old, one of the first to get reconstructive surgery she is still alive and doing well (58).

I have a friend right now 26 has ovarian cancer and is going the natural route, so far she is doing well.

I grew up with a girl who got a brain tumor got surgery ( brain cancer of some kind) after the surgery she was like a stroke victim and she was given a year to live. She no longer went the medical route she went the alternative route went to Mexico for treatment. She lived for 20 more years. She was one amazing girl, anyone that knew her was touched by her, still miss her.

This is not a post taking a position one way or the other on oncology, or recommending a path, but to share that cancer is so devastating to those that get it ( and their families) whether they die or not, I have been there a few times for friends, the hardest was sitting with my best friend while the doctor told her she had breast cancer and would die without surgery, She was so young she was not even from California, she had no family, and didn't even have kids yet.

I have to say in each case I saw heros regardless of the path they chose for help.

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Sorry to hear that Darvos.

My grandfather was diagnosed with throat cancer and refused treatment, at the time he would have had to have half his throat removed and he couldn't bear the idea of missing his throat drinking through a straw on the hope it might give him a few more years. We respected his decision. I spent a lot of time with him his last year and we talked a lot about death and he was really fine with it, he really was ready to go.

A good friend of mine back in 2001 was 19 years old, she also was diagnosed with throat cancer. She was well on her way to recovery when a complication due to her medication thinning her blood caused some kind of clot or problem of some kind and she fell down dead right on the spot. To this day I still remember calling several of our mutual friends to inform them of what had happened. Sometimes horse **** happens. Sometimes even to horses. I celebrate the life of a friend that never truly began and I mourn for her and her family and hope that they are at peace and managed to appropriately grieve and move on.

It's terrible when this kind of thing happens. I spoke about Acharya/Murdock with my brother yesterday when I first heard this, he didn't know who Acharya even was, so I had to explain the story. His response was "that's hilarious. Well, it isn't, it's kind of the opposite of hilarious, but it's ironic". That's kind of the exact same thing I thought. It's not something to laugh at, I mean, someone just died of cancer when they could have had decades longer. But in light of her academic (and I use that word with as much trepidation as I can) pursuits, that this of all days was her passing was quite crazy.

But then, I'm no stranger to ironic tragedies. As you know, I was involved in an incident at a surf beach on December 14, 1998 in which three people (two of them friends of mine) died. 14 years later, on December 14, 2012, my father passed away. Same. Freaking. Date. I still remember the phone call when mum called to say dad passed, I specifically remember saying "Today, really, that's excellent.... wait, no it's not, it's terrible, you know what I mean, considering what happened". I'm not Korean, but apparently in Korea 14 is considered an unlucky number and hotels in that country don't have a 14th floor. I'm almost inclined to follow that line of superstition.

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Thanks ladies.

Through the chemo/ordeal she related that she would never wish that pain on anyone (even a worst enemy).

The hardest part was seeing something funny, and thinking I got to tell her about this (we shared the same silly sense of humor). Then realize she's not around to tell.

As for Acharya I wish her family well, and anyone that has to go through what everyone goes through in one form, or another.

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The video of her talking about her cancer was poignantly sad. The cancer had already sapped the life out of her. I saw too much of it as a medic. I hate the disease and the oncology industry in the U.S. (I don't know about the industry in other countries.) She still expressed hope to survive. I don't know whether she was in denial or if the doctors had not fully explained her situation to her.

She said that she was Stage IV. There's no coming back from Stage IV. Sometimes they can prolong life a few months, but...

My experience with the disease (from work) just makes me feel anger about the whole thing. When she was talking I just wanted to hug her.

So sad...

That was beautiful, ............ poignant, Robin. It makes me angry too.

As I have mentioned, I remember her books, as a bookseller finding them for customers. Now, I may end up reading up on them.

It doesn't seem right though, getting to know the author and her books, after she passed. I find this so sad. :(

My half sister died from cancer. It was preventable on her part.

https://en.m.wikiped..._papillomavirus

Oh Davros, I didn't know. You may have mentioned it in the past. My heart is with you.

As I have mentioned it in the past, one of my older brothers died of Pancreatic Cancer. Trust me, when I was told of his diagnosis, I read up on it. Despite the high mortality rate for the disease, and the severity of it too, I still hoped too. My brother did what he could, but I'm with robin on the state of the medical system here in the states. And this was before Obama's health care.

He was told too late, that one post he stayed at, was negligent in their waste disposal, and the water was tainted, and that he was already ill when he and so many others got letter that they may have been exposed and do something about it.

It was too late for him and so many others. The way I see it, there was no way they themselves could prevent it, because they were told until too late. But the fort and others could have done something earlier and prevented it for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Lejeune_water_contamination

Sorry to hear that Darvos.

My grandfather was diagnosed with throat cancer and refused treatment, at the time he would have had to have half his throat removed and he couldn't bear the idea of missing his throat drinking through a straw on the hope it might give him a few more years. We respected his decision. I spent a lot of time with him his last year and we talked a lot about death and he was really fine with it, he really was ready to go.

:( ........................ (((HUGS)))
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A good friend of mine back in 2001 was 19 years old, she also was diagnosed with throat cancer. She was well on her way to recovery when a complication due to her medication thinning her blood caused some kind of clot or problem of some kind and she fell down dead right on the spot. To this day I still remember calling several of our mutual friends to inform them of what had happened. Sometimes horse **** happens. Sometimes even to horses. I celebrate the life of a friend that never truly began and I mourn for her and her family and hope that they are at peace and managed to appropriately grieve and move on.

It's terrible when this kind of thing happens. I spoke about Acharya/Murdock with my brother yesterday when I first heard this, he didn't know who Acharya even was, so I had to explain the story. His response was "that's hilarious. Well, it isn't, it's kind of the opposite of hilarious, but it's ironic". That's kind of the exact same thing I thought. It's not something to laugh at, I mean, someone just died of cancer when they could have had decades longer. But in light of her academic (and I use that word with as much trepidation as I can) pursuits, that this of all days was her passing was quite crazy.

But then, I'm no stranger to ironic tragedies. As you know, I was involved in an incident at a surf beach on December 14, 1998 in which three people (two of them friends of mine) died. 14 years later, on December 14, 2012, my father passed away. Same. Freaking. Date. I still remember the phone call when mum called to say dad passed, I specifically remember saying "Today, really, that's excellent.... wait, no it's not, it's terrible, you know what I mean, considering what happened". I'm not Korean, but apparently in Korea 14 is considered an unlucky number and hotels in that country don't have a 14th floor. I'm almost inclined to follow that line of superstition.

1989 was the start of it for me, I guess. I consider that a really bad year for me. On top of other situations that would pull at my heart, I lost one friend to a car accident in April, and another to suicide in November.

Hugs to you, my friend. :(:wub:

Thanks ladies.

Through the chemo/ordeal she related that she would never wish that pain on anyone (even a worst enemy).

The hardest part was seeing something funny, and thinking I got to tell her about this (we shared the same silly sense of humor). Then realize she's not around to tell.

As for Acharya I wish her family well, and anyone that has to go through what everyone goes through in one form, or another.

When I was doing the researching of her and her books, I noticed how beautiful this blond author was. The thing is, I didn't realize she was blond, by looking at the youtube video you linked. The thing is, she was still so very beautiful. The way she held herself so very graceful, had me thinking she wasn't in any pain. Oh man, my heart goes out to her and her family.

They are the heroes in my book. Unfortunately not heroes standing among us. :(:no:

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Holy *snip* Stubbs!

That really sucks when someone that serves gets screwed like that.

My condolences.

Now for some levity that I'm sure Dorothy would have approved.

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Holy *snip* Stubbs!

That really sucks when someone that serves gets screwed like that.

My condolences.

Thanks Davros. I appreciate that.

And he wasn't the only one, so many and including their loved ones, their families, suffered and died too. :(:no:

Now for some levity that I'm sure Dorothy would have approved.

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Ya gotta love the irony/symbolism. :w00t:;)

I wonder how the first pic could explain that little bit of 'info' for everyone. ;)

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