FLOMBIE Posted February 17, 2016 #501 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I followed the increase of the opened cases from the beginning of the Cologne incident/s on and I really have doubts to believe that the number of opened files equates the number of incidents happened. I have a strong assumption that a lot of cases had been opend by right wing free-riders for political reasons. I agree. And was it really over a 1000 open cases? It were roughly a 1000 complains, if I recall right. There is a difference. Steve, you asked how many are being prosecuted. The number stands at 73 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted February 17, 2016 #502 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I agree. And was it really over a 1000 open cases? It were roughly a 1000 complains, if I recall right. There is a difference. 1054 open cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOMBIE Posted February 17, 2016 #503 Share Posted February 17, 2016 1054 open cases No no, 1054 complaints. That does not mean a case has been opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted February 17, 2016 #504 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I followed the increase of the opened cases from the beginning of the Cologne incident/s on and I really have doubts to believe that the number of opened files equates the number of incidents happened. I have a strong assumption that a lot of cases had been opend by right wing free-riders for political reasons. I thought that myself, from the original numbers reported. - the only difference i'd highlight is this, remember how long it took for the cologne incident to make the headlines. was it two weeks? i cant remember off the top of my head. so before it was made public, how many complaints were made in the immediate aftermath? this might give a better representation of the true figure. I agree. And was it really over a 1000 open cases? It were roughly a 1000 complains, if I recall right. There is a difference. Steve, you asked how many are being prosecuted. The number stands at 73 right now. keep us updated on how these cases evolve. because even though we get reports via the BBC etc.. your on the front-line so to speak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOMBIE Posted February 17, 2016 #505 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I'll try, steve. Unfortunately I am rather busy these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted February 17, 2016 #506 Share Posted February 17, 2016 No no, 1054 complaints. That does not mean a case has been opened. But I name that cases because when a Strafanzeige has been opened, it is in the hands of the body of public prosecutors and this department have to take further investigations/actions. But I think we are talking about the same thing here but using different words for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOMBIE Posted February 17, 2016 #507 Share Posted February 17, 2016 But I name that cases because when a Strafanzeige has been opened, it is in the hands of the body of public prosecutors and this department have to take further investigations/actions. But I think we are talking about the same thing here but using different words for it. No, they don't have to, they can, if they see proper reason (Legal term Anfangsverdacht). We also do not know if multiple complaints concerning the same facts have been made. Open cases would be laufendes Ermittlungsverfahren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted February 17, 2016 #508 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I thought that myself, from the original numbers reported. - the only difference i'd highlight is this, remember how long it took for the cologne incident to make the headlines. was it two weeks? i cant remember off the top of my head. so before it was made public, how many complaints were made in the immediate aftermath? this might give a better representation of the true figure. The Cologne incident popped up on social media boards on 01JAN already and the police publishd a press release on 02JAN pm and confirmed criminal acts of various kind occured. Within this period of time, approx 30 complaints had been made. More infos on Wiki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted February 17, 2016 #509 Share Posted February 17, 2016 No, they don't have to, they can, if they see proper reason (Legal term Anfangsverdacht). We also do not know if multiple complaints concerning the same facts have been made. Open cases would be laufendes Ermittlungsverfahren. Ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katzenking Posted February 18, 2016 #510 Share Posted February 18, 2016 This discussion leads to nowhere. These incidents in cologne came earlier than I expected. It can be seen as warning about what is about to follow during the next 20 years. There will be many more and much more serious incidents in the coming years including crimes from the extreme right or left. Not necessarily in Germany but all over Europe. No country in the world would act like this. Russia and Turkey will take further advantage of this policy. Merkel is wrong on this, period. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted February 19, 2016 #511 Share Posted February 19, 2016 The Most Disturbing Video on the Islamic Invasion of Europe You'll Ever See 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted February 20, 2016 #512 Share Posted February 20, 2016 The Most Disturbing Video on the Islamic Invasion of Europe You'll Ever See *snip video* I'd say more disturbing is European selective attitude. Goatshaggers marching freely and expressing their antisemitism is ok, but if you dare touch their freaking destructive cult... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted February 20, 2016 #513 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I'd say more disturbing is European selective attitude. Goatshaggers marching freely and expressing their antisemitism is ok, but if you dare touch their freaking destructive cult... The increase in anti-Jewish crimes, in some European countries, is linked to the increase of Muslims in those very same countries, and the same thing holds true for the increase in rapes (especially in Sweden). The Left denies this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted February 24, 2016 #514 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Cologne attacks: Most suspects 'may never be caught' Most of the men who sexually assaulted women in Cologne on New Year's Eve may never be caught, the city's police chief, Juergen Mathies, has said. CCTV footage was not good enough to identify sex crimes, he told the BBC. Police have identified 75 suspects in connection with the thefts and assaults that took place around Cologne station. A 23-year-old Moroccan man given a suspended sentence for theft has become the first person convicted for his part in the spate of attacks. The man, named only as Younis A, was handed a six-month suspended sentence and a €100-euro (£79; $100) fine for stealing a mobile phone. Another Moroccan, aged 18, was given two years' probation and community service for stealing a bag, and a 22-year-old Tunisian was handed a three-month suspended sentence as well as community service. They are among 13 men who have been arrested for stealing. The attacks have been largely blamed on people from North Africa who entered Germany illegally or have sought asylum. Only one person, a 26-year-old Algerian asylum seeker, has been arrested on suspicion of sexual assault. "The CCTV footage is not good enough to clearly identify sexual assaults. We can see some thefts but that's all. We are relying on witness accounts and victims identifying their attackers," said Mr Mathies. An official report found that Cologne police made "serious mistakes" in not calling in reinforcements and in the way they informed the public. About 1,000 men of North African and Arab origin gathered near Cologne's main station on 31 December. Smaller groups formed, first surrounding women and then threatening and attacking them, the report said. Chancellor Angela Merkel's immigration policy has since come under mounting criticism. About 1.1 million asylum seekers arrived in Germany in 2015. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35647308 Absolute joke, im pretty sure your average German isnt happy. and for those that are, good news, more of this to come. expected numbers 1.6Million to Germany 2016. Where are German people i ask, Merkel is destroying your nation in front of you. are people paralysed by fear of being called a Nazi? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katzenking Posted February 24, 2016 #515 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) Where are German people i ask, Merkel is destroying your nation in front of you. are people paralysed by fear of being called a Nazi? Well, I am currently sitting in front of the computer and enjoy your post. There are local elections in this State of Baden-Württemberg in 3 weeks... I already decided not to participate since I don't find any party to agree with... (as usual). The difference between Britain and Germany is that you have people who are very much politicians and we have people who are very much wimps... There are no politicians like Boris Johnson, Winston Churchill or even David Cameron in Germany and therefore I am rather unpatriotic. But of course I can only speak for myself and don't talk like this on the street... We will see how this develops further... Somewhere I read today that the UNHCR is criticizing Germany for 'rejecting too many asylum-seekers'. Edited February 24, 2016 by Katzenking 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted February 25, 2016 #516 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Well, I am currently sitting in front of the computer and enjoy your post. There are local elections in this State of Baden-Württemberg in 3 weeks... I already decided not to participate since I don't find any party to agree with... (as usual). The difference between Britain and Germany is that you have people who are very much politicians and we have people who are very much wimps... There are no politicians like Boris Johnson, Winston Churchill or even David Cameron in Germany and therefore I am rather unpatriotic. But of course I can only speak for myself and don't talk like this on the street... We will see how this develops further... Somewhere I read today that the UNHCR is criticizing Germany for 'rejecting too many asylum-seekers'. All of the best to you and your country. Smart, strong people stand with you! The survival of Germany is at stake. The future of Europe is at stake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted February 25, 2016 #517 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) All of the best to you and your country. Smart, strong people stand with you! The survival of Germany is at stake. The future of Europe is at stake. Europe is dead and will look like the ME very soon. Thats what they want. The rabbit hole on this site is not to be looked into as truth is often crushed under political presure hence the supresion of media. The American media is the most viel of all. Propaganda lol. Putin just put a leash on the US for being stupid and he did that with NATO and Turkey. Western media or corprate media is a joke and I hate people still fall for it. Russia is the new world leader and I would love to go hunting with Putin to snipe every western generated Jihadist aka ISIS they created. Starting from the top. We all know how ISIS was created right....... Oh wait most don`t get that ISIS is an american proxy army lol Thought I should add I have prof. Edited February 25, 2016 by The Silver Thong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted February 25, 2016 #518 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Europe is dead and will look like the ME very soon. Thats what they want. The rabbit hole on this site is not to be looked into as truth is often crushed under political presure hence the supresion of media. The American media is the most viel of all. Propaganda lol. Putin just put a leash on the US for being stupid and he did that with NATO and Turkey. Western media or corprate media is a joke and I hate people still fall for it. Russia is the new world leader and I would love to go hunting with Putin to snipe every western generated Jihadist aka ISIS they created. Starting from the top. We all know how ISIS was created right....... Oh wait most don`t get that ISIS is an american proxy army lol Thought I should add I have prof. You don't have to convince me about journalistic (yeah, right) propaganda. I treat the MSM like Mad Magazine much of the time. It reads like parody and satire when you know the scoop that's distorted or omitted by the corporate media. It's obvious, that the fix is in, when the Left bangs war drums with the Right in some Bizarro World "Kumbaya". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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