Likely Guy Posted January 18, 2016 #376 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Was gonna say, that's what Trudeau did. Brilliant decision on his part, IMO. Actually, the "families first" policy was adopted by the previous Conservative government after their "Christian Syrians only" policy was shot down. The current Liberal government campaigned last summer to settle 10,000 by Christmas and won a majority government. Trudeau to the new arrivals, "You're safe. You're home now," as he helped them put on new winter coats. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/12/world/americas/syria-refugees-arrive-in-canada.html The theory is, is that by treating them with kindness and consideration as they adjust to their new lives here you'll lessen the likelihood that they'll ever turn against their new country. Put them in isolated internment camps (as someone here in a different thread suggested) and you'll guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted January 18, 2016 #377 Share Posted January 18, 2016 That's what Canada's doing (families as well as LGTB individuals). 25,000 by spring time. I don't have a problem with that. The gay refugees could qualify as refugees in times of peace. They could be executed in some Muslim countries. It sounds like Canada is more rational and realistic than Germany. It sounds like they care more about the safety of their people. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted January 18, 2016 #378 Share Posted January 18, 2016 As we've seen lately, women are taking a more active role though. Tashfeen Malik, one of the San Bernardino shooters, was supposed to be pregnant when she immigrated here. Their child was a toddler when they carried out the attack. There is no easy answer to any of this. That's a good point. Women can be just as ruthless as men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted January 18, 2016 #379 Share Posted January 18, 2016 There is no easy answer to any of this. Well, I'm glad that you agree that Trump is wrong then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted January 18, 2016 #380 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Actually, the "families first" policy was adopted by the previous Conservative government after their "Christian Syrians only" policy was shot down. The current Liberal government campaigned last summer to settle 10,000 by Christmas and won a majority government. Trudeau to the new arrivals, "You're safe. You're home now," as he helped them put on new winter coats. http://www.nytimes.c...-in-canada.html The theory is, is that by treating them with kindness and consideration as they adjust to their new lives here you'll lessen the likelihood that they'll ever turn against their new country. Put them in isolated internment camps (as someone here in a different thread suggested) and you'll guarantee it. Germany is doing great. Good job Merkel, play it down all you want the result will be the same. Give them coats lol ``treating them with kindness and consideration as they adjust to their new lives here you'll lessen the likelihood that they'll ever turn against their new country.``` does that not in itself so hmmmmm We know what happens and its not a rainbow of this magic called intergration. The west needs to close the borders now as if its not to late. read this in 1 year and you will understand it. if your allowed Edited January 18, 2016 by The Silver Thong 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted January 18, 2016 #381 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Shoot them at the borders then? Or watch them starve? Great alternatives, or do you have one Silver Thong? ETA: So you live in Calgary, how's that Sharia law coming along with your mayor? Edited January 18, 2016 by Likely Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted January 18, 2016 #382 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Shoot them at the borders then? Or watch them starve? Great alternatives, or do you have one Silver Thong? ETA: So you live in Calgary, how's that Sharia law coming along with your mayor? Not to answer on Silver Thongs behalf. But why are we treating this flood of migrants into Europe like its a situation they cannot control? seriously, the EU is acting like the whole thing is unstoppable, like its an invading force we are unable to deal with. The reality is the whole thing could be stopped over night, but the political will isn't there, seeing how the migrants are coming in Via Greece crossing from the Aegean sea, the EU asks its members to deploy Naval assets and every migrant boat is intercepted and returned to Turkish shores. the same for Africa.. Those who slip through are detained and returned on said ships back to Turkish or African shores. If we see starving images, and poor conditions in the camps, like the liberal left media love showing us, - what we do is we point to the Arab League and ask them why they are not taking responsibility for their region and of the people they represent. We have people Saying this whole thing is the responsibility of the West, really. No its not, especially Canada whose so far away from events how on earth they feel a need to take Syrians is beyond me. - as this whole thing as evolved, I don't even think the UK should be taking any of them, personally i wouldn't give aid money. not when the rich gulf Arab states are building castles in the sand and laughing at us, like Saudi Arabia is, their rubbing their hands with glee, as we spread wahhabism on their behalf, achieving a conquest they could only dream about. Edited January 18, 2016 by stevewinn 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted January 18, 2016 #383 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Actually, the "families first" policy was adopted by the previous Conservative government after their "Christian Syrians only" policy was shot down. The current Liberal government campaigned last summer to settle 10,000 by Christmas and won a majority government. Trudeau to the new arrivals, "You're safe. You're home now," as he helped them put on new winter coats. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/12/world/americas/syria-refugees-arrive-in-canada.html The theory is, is that by treating them with kindness and consideration as they adjust to their new lives here you'll lessen the likelihood that they'll ever turn against their new country. Put them in isolated internment camps (as someone here in a different thread suggested) and you'll guarantee it. Hmmm.... I pretty sure the Liberal party wasn't voted into a majority because the voter was convinced importing Syrian refugees was a huge priority. Stephen Harpers Conservative government had announced 10 000 by September 2016. Trudeau's Liberals were voted in by individuals who usually voted for the NDP party in a strategic plan adopted by many who simply were convinced "Harper must go!". He was labelled a dictator. The Conservative party received a lot of negative attention for the bombing campaign in Syria. As well as the civilian spy Bill c-51 and the semi-secretive Trans Pacific Partnership[TPP] Word began to circulate the Conservatives had been in power too long and change was needed. It had nothing to do with Syrian refugees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted January 18, 2016 #384 Share Posted January 18, 2016 If one shoots across a border, what if its a policeman, or aid worker or a normal person trying to get by. This isnt a mexican border where its all open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted January 18, 2016 #385 Share Posted January 18, 2016 If one shoots across a border, what if its a policeman, or aid worker or a normal person trying to get by. This isnt a mexican border where its all open This might come as a shock to you but in Europe there are no fences if we exclude Hungary (and that only on the non-EU side). Crossing the border at any point was encouraged by the Schengen system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted January 19, 2016 #386 Share Posted January 19, 2016 If we see starving images, and poor conditions in the camps, like the liberal left media love showing us, - what we do is we point to the Arab League and ask them why they are not taking responsibility for their region and of the people they represent. We have people Saying this whole thing is the responsibility of the West, really. No its not, especially Canada whose so far away from events how on earth they feel a need to take Syrians is beyond me. - as this whole thing as evolved, I don't even think the UK should be taking any of them, personally i wouldn't give aid money. not when the rich gulf Arab states are building castles in the sand and laughing at us, like Saudi Arabia is, their rubbing their hands with glee, as we spread wahhabism on their behalf, achieving a conquest they could only dream about. I definitely agree with this quote. However, I think that it's fine to take in *some* refugees and survivors. This excludes a huge number of unchecked young men with no familial ties. They should reduce the flood to a trickle. The literal survival of a great continent is at stake, and there can be no compromise when the stakes are so high. The cowardly and weak leadership don't represent the will of their citizens. This means that they must be replaced with leaders who care about the future of Europe. There must be emergency referendums to save all countries that are at risk of losing their identity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted January 19, 2016 #387 Share Posted January 19, 2016 A 26-year-old Algerian asylum seeker has become the first suspect to be arrested over alleged sexual offences in Cologne on New Year's Eve. The man, who has not been named, was detained at a refugee shelter in the town of Kerpen over the weekend, prosecutors say. He was being held on suspicion of groping a woman and stealing her phone. Cologne police are now investigating 21 people over the attacks - almost all for non-sexual offences. Eight are in detention awaiting trial, public prosecutor Ulrich Bremer said. Most are accused of theft. Police say 883 people have now filed criminal complaints over the events in Cologne, including 497 women alleging sexual assault. The number of alleged crimes stands at 766, including three rapes. The 26-year-old Algerian was arrested in Kerpen, about 30km (19 miles) south-west of Cologne, along with another 22-year-old Algerian who allegedly stole a mobile phone. cont... http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35348949 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted January 19, 2016 #388 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) A 26-year-old Algerian asylum seeker has become the first suspect to be arrested over alleged sexual offences in Cologne on New Year's Eve. The man, who has not been named, was detained at a refugee shelter in the town of Kerpen over the weekend, prosecutors say. He was being held on suspicion of groping a woman and stealing her phone. Cologne police are now investigating 21 people over the attacks - almost all for non-sexual offences. Eight are in detention awaiting trial, public prosecutor Ulrich Bremer said. Most are accused of theft. Police say 883 people have now filed criminal complaints over the events in Cologne, including 497 women alleging sexual assault. The number of alleged crimes stands at 766, including three rapes. The 26-year-old Algerian was arrested in Kerpen, about 30km (19 miles) south-west of Cologne, along with another 22-year-old Algerian who allegedly stole a mobile phone. cont... http://www.bbc.com/n...europe-35348949 Its unbelievable, here we are 19 days after the incident and one person arrested on sexual assault, 21 for non-sexual attacks. - YET, 883 people have filed criminal complaints over the events in Cologne, including 497 women alleging sexual assault. The number of alleged crimes stands at 766, including three rapes. And to make matters worse, Legal experts regard it as "highly improbable" that any criminal charges can be made in connection with the Cologne incident. What a complete and utter shambles, cover-up and injustice for the people involved. - and this is Germany where talking about here, not some tinpot nation and with another million migrants/asylum seekers due to arrive this year. Its clear, German Justice is non-existent and its open season. Edited January 19, 2016 by stevewinn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical1 Posted January 19, 2016 #389 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Are you on Meth Flamboy. It really doesnt take much to use the interwebs or maybe as you might call it google. It`s called information and I can`t teach you the truth. You have to find it, Fact check Ok so Sweden is bufard after your nation just a year ago was great and now what, riots in the streats or do you not think we see these things hmmmm Again your for the criminals and not the victims. Very telling Silver Thong, don't ever confuse people with facts. Mass immigration, has destroyed every country in which it has happened. . The U.S. & Canada are next! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted January 19, 2016 #390 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Silver Thong, don't ever confuse people with facts. Mass immigration, has destroyed every country in which it has happened. . The U.S. & Canada are next! You mean there has been no mass immigration to the US and Canada in the last 200 years? What have you been smoking while the rest of your class had history? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical1 Posted January 19, 2016 #391 Share Posted January 19, 2016 You mean there has been no mass immigration to the US and Canada in the last 200 years? What have you been smoking while the rest of your class had history? No mass immigration of Muslims, hopefully many will settle into the area that you live. Better yet, why not move some in withyour family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted January 19, 2016 #392 Share Posted January 19, 2016 No mass immigration of Muslims, hopefully many will settle into the area that you live. Better yet, why not move some in with your family? It may come shocking to you, but the first Muslim came to the US before the Mayflower. Didn't hurt any. And so far, all Muslims that I know are agreeable people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted January 19, 2016 #393 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Its unbelievable, here we are 19 days after the incident and one person arrested on sexual assault, 21 for non-sexual attacks. - YET, 883 people have filed criminal complaints over the events in Cologne, including 497 women alleging sexual assault. The number of alleged crimes stands at 766, including three rapes. And to make matters worse, Legal experts regard it as "highly improbable" that any criminal charges can be made in connection with the Cologne incident. What a complete and utter shambles, cover-up and injustice for the people involved. - and this is Germany where talking about here, not some tinpot nation and with another million migrants/asylum seekers due to arrive this year. Its clear, German Justice is non-existent and its open season. Oh, they are doing something. Facebook is banning "racist" and "xenophobic" posts there. That should comfort the rapists' victims. Where is a German Charles Martel when you need him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted January 19, 2016 #394 Share Posted January 19, 2016 It may come shocking to you, but the first Muslim came to the US before the Mayflower. Didn't hurt any. And so far, all Muslims that I know are agreeable people. I doubt that he was a terrorist who came here with a multitude of Syrian refugees. I doubt that he forced shariah law on the aboriginal tribes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibongo Posted January 20, 2016 #395 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) "Why you have things, we have nothing, we take from you" slogan as would-be immigrants assault journalists trying to help them: http://www.dailymail...ais-Jungle.html The weather is cracking down, and getting icy, tempers will fray, who wouldn't want a warm house, nice woman, and a decent salary? Edited January 20, 2016 by alibongo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Area Posted January 20, 2016 #396 Share Posted January 20, 2016 That should comfort the rapists' victims. Since when has this been about the victims? I have seen pitifully few posts that demonstrate genuine concern or sympathy for the victims. All this thread is about is spreading hate and stereotype and rumour in the name of faceless Unknown survivors of sexual assault. It is a tragedy that occurred in Germany at a time that should have been a happy one, but let's not pretend this has anything to do with concern for the women that faced this ordeal, it's about vengeance for those foreigners that sullied our women and through this promoting some sort of religious purge and mass deportation. Those that committed these crimes should be hunted down and face justice for sure, but other completely innocent people should not have to pay the price simply for calling themselves Muslim. By that reckoning every Roman Catholic should have to pay some sort of price for the holocaust, every follower of Chinese Buddhism should be held accountable for the treatment of the Tibetan people. I've seen many posts accusing others of sounding off propoganda, and it seems it is only propoganda if someone else is using it. Let's do something crazy and judge individuals on their actions rather than on the actions of those only related by a word. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockornothing Posted January 20, 2016 #397 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) I doubt that he was a terrorist who came here with a multitude of Syrian refugees. I doubt that he forced shariah law on the aboriginal tribes. This was before explosives or AK's were invented, otherwise I am sure he would have ran into the nearest Teepee yelling Allen's snack bar (boom) or sprayed bullets at the tomahawk wielding feather wearing natives as they huddled around the camp fire. At least that is what I was just picturing in my mind of what some might be thinking (myself included). Edited January 20, 2016 by Glockornothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted January 20, 2016 #398 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Since when has this been about the victims? I have seen pitifully few posts that demonstrate genuine concern or sympathy for the victims. All this thread is about is spreading hate and stereotype and rumour in the name of faceless Unknown survivors of sexual assault. It is a tragedy that occurred in Germany at a time that should have been a happy one, but let's not pretend this has anything to do with concern for the women that faced this ordeal, it's about vengeance for those foreigners that sullied our women and through this promoting some sort of religious purge and mass deportation. Those that committed these crimes should be hunted down and face justice for sure, but other completely innocent people should not have to pay the price simply for calling themselves Muslim. By that reckoning every Roman Catholic should have to pay some sort of price for the holocaust, every follower of Chinese Buddhism should be held accountable for the treatment of the Tibetan people. I've seen many posts accusing others of sounding off propoganda, and it seems it is only propoganda if someone else is using it. Let's do something crazy and judge individuals on their actions rather than on the actions of those only related by a word. That is complete and total nonsense. You can't read minds. You can, however, make assumptions. That's all they are. We care about victims. You might not like our suggestions on the prevention of more rapes and sexual crimes. They might not align with your PC philosophy. Who cares? Let's not pretend that all Muslims are angels and saints. That's fantasy, and you know it as well as I do. Most of them are fine, but a large amount cause problems in host countries. I don't buy your projection, so you can save that for the gullible demagogues who demonize individuals who tell the truth. If European men attack Muslim women and children, I will condemn *them*. I will continue to criticize those who are destroying the West, and I don't care if the truth is unpalatable to you. Feel free to call me any permutation of "bigot" that pops into your mind. It won't change reality. You give a nice speech on past crimes, but it won't wash. I'm talking about the here and now, and I'll ignore your nonsensical shot at the members of other belief systems. So, please show any quotes from me that blame *all* Muslims for the crimes of a large number of other Muslims. One specific example would be fine. As for your accusations of propaganda, doctor, heal thyself. We are learning about these crimes *despite* the PC propaganda that passes as news, the kind that denies or downplays crimes if the perpetrators are members of a minority group while the victims are members of a majority group. You might want to post a rant on individuality to *them*. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted January 20, 2016 #399 Share Posted January 20, 2016 This was before explosives or AK's were invented, otherwise I am sure he would have ran into the nearest Teepee yelling Allen's snack bar (boom) or sprayed bullets at the tomahawk wielding feather wearing natives as they huddled around the camp fire. At least that is what I was just picturing in my mind of what some might be thinking (myself included). There are theories that posit that Muslims married into Native American tribes during the colonial era. They might be based on some truth, or they might be a twist on the lost tribes of Israel. Some think that Melungeons have origins in one or both religious groups. Genetic tests demonstrate that they're probably just triracial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Area Posted January 20, 2016 #400 Share Posted January 20, 2016 That is complete and total nonsense. You can't read minds. You can, however, make assumptions. That's all they are. We care about victims. You might not like our suggestions on the prevention of more rapes and sexual crimes. They might not align with your PC philosophy. Who cares? Let's not pretend that all Muslims are angels and saints. That's fantasy, and you know it as well as I do. Most of them are fine, but a large amount cause problems in host countries. I don't buy your projection, so you can save that for the gullible demagogues who demonize individuals who tell the truth. If European men attack Muslim women and children, I will condemn *them*. I will continue to criticize those who are destroying the West, and I don't care if the truth is unpalatable to you. Feel free to call me any permutation of "bigot" that pops into your mind. It won't change reality. You give a nice speech on past crimes, but it won't wash. I'm talking about the here and now, and I'll ignore your nonsensical shot at the members of other belief systems. So, please show any quotes from me that blame *all* Muslims for the crimes of a large number of other Muslims. One specific example would be fine. As for your accusations of propaganda, doctor, heal thyself. We are learning about these crimes *despite* the PC propaganda that passes as news, the kind that denies or downplays crimes if the perpetrators are members of a minority group while the victims are members of a majority group. You might want to post a rant on individuality to *them*. Look I quoted one line from you about the victim aspect, nowhere did I suggest or hold you personally responsible for the attitude of the haters here, my comments are about this thread and the posts are there in black and white to see, no assumptions are necessary. We care more about who committed the crimes rather who the victims were or what they have suffered, otherwise we would have thousands of new threads every day about every rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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