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Iron_Lotus

My point is that if she wasn't a Muslim, this wouldn't have even been an issue.

It really wasn't even a bad incident, she wasn't even hurt.

no just verbal abuse hurled her way at least she wasn't physically beaten right? hey she didn't have her eye torn out or teeth smashed down her throat so it's alright :)

apparently theres no star wars extended cut for blu ray when it hits why are we not talking about this here i think we should be

http://io9.gizmodo.com/dont-hold-your-breathe-for-a-the-force-awakens-extended-1751996895

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Michelle

When it comes to relegating demonstrators to obscurity, two approaches predominate: keeping protesters outside an expansive, sanitized bubble that surrounds the very event they have come to protest, or allowing them to come closer, but only within the confines of heavily policed "protest pens" that one federal judge likened to temporary internment camps.

The exclusion zones imposed by [the law] have no natural or intuitive spatial boundaries. They can be as large as law enforcement claims is necessary to ensure the security of whoever the Secret Service is protecting. The "free speech zone" is a moving target, not a delineated area.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/restricted.asp

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Leonardo

To put it a little more clearly, there is a good possibility you will be escorted out of Clinton rally for wearing a Trump t-shirt. Nowhere did I say she was wearing anything in particular...it was an example. It is to cause a disruption without saying a word.

And what disruption was the Muslim woman causing at the Trump rally, Michelle? Because I don't see how your "t-shirt analogy/claim" has any bearing on the discussion?

Let me ask you this, if she wasn't wearing a t-shirt on which was written "Salaam. I come in peace", but instead was wearing a hijab (which essentially is the same thing - advertising you are Muslim), would you be defending the ejecting of her from the rally?

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Michelle

Read the post above yours, Leo.

Boy, you guys are all for equal rights until everyone is treated equally.

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Iron_Lotus

Read the post above yours, Leo.

Boy, you guys are all for equal rights until everyone is treated equally.

i'll get on marking your bathroom whites only for a nominal fee.

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Use your brain

no just verbal abuse hurled her way at least she wasn't physically beaten right? hey she didn't have her eye torn out or teeth smashed down her throat so it's alright :)

apparently theres no star wars extended cut for blu ray when it hits why are we not talking about this here i think we should be

http://io9.gizmodo.c...nded-1751996895

See the difference is that I was bringing a legitimate related topic to the discussion. You are simply acting like a child.

As for the first part of what you said. She showed up looking to cause a scene. She knew full well that the people there wouldn't appreciate her doing that, and that is why she did it there and not on Facebook.

She got "verbally abused"? Have you seen the way Muslim women are talked to every day by their husbands? She was heckled at best.

She showed up looking for trouble, and she got it. She wasn't physically injured. No harm was done.

She isn't 12, she is 56, I think she can handle some harsh words.

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My point is that if she wasn't a Muslim, this wouldn't have even been an issue.

It really wasn't even a bad incident, she wasn't even hurt.

That's not true if there was a Muslim rallying against Christians, there would be ten threads.

Then there would be another ten threads if additionally on one of those hypothetical anti-christian rallies there was a protester, who was put away in the same manner as this woman.

Last but not least of course this protest must be seen in the context of current developments in society, that's why it is relevant that she is Muslim.

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Michelle

The snopes link discusses the law. If y'all don't like it send an e-mail to your congessmen.

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Use your brain

That's not true if there was a Muslim rallying against Christians, there would be ten threads.

Then there would be another ten threads if additionally on one of those hypothetical anti-christian rallies there was a protester, who was put away in the same manner as this woman.

Last but not least of course this protest must be seen in the context of current developments in society, that's why it is relevant that she is Muslim.

Please go to a Middle Eastern rally and cause a disruption.

Are you a female?

You might want to make sure that your life insurance is paid up before you do that.

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Iron_Lotus

See the difference is that I was bringing a legitimate related topic to the discussion. You are simply acting like a child.

As for the first part of what you said. She showed up looking to cause a scene. She knew full well that the people there wouldn't appreciate her doing that, and that is why she did it there and not on Facebook.

She got "verbally abused"? Have you seen the way Muslim women are talked to every day by their husbands? She was heckled at best.

She showed up looking for trouble, and she got it. She wasn't physically injured. No harm was done.

She isn't 12, she is 56, I think she can handle some harsh words.

aw muffin don't get upset cause i was busting your balls it's ok :)

she showed up to silently protest and not cause any disruptions you seem to think her standing there quietly being muslim is a disturbance and a problem, i dont :)

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seax

that's exactly what she did protesting that she was not a radical

She was there to upset his rally. She don't have the courage to do that and speak up against the radical Muslems, that's the problem. And when the rubber hits the asphalt these Muslems that are silent, not to us but their brotherin they will assimilate with the radicals because they don't have the gonads to fight them. If we don't do it, it won't get done. You don't get it, why should they go against them here when they didn't in their own countries. Like I said, she should be preaching to her people that do these terrible things, not Trump...we didn't send for these people.

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Please go to a Middle Eastern debate and cause a disruption.

Are you a female?

You might want to make sure that your life insurance is paid up before you do that.

So it is not about the USA, I must have misunderstood the topic of this thread.

P.S: I wouldn't compare myself to nations who obviously don`t give a damn about free speech, secondly since most ME countries were bombed into the dark ages I am not sure if they are even comparable with a country who has considerable wealth and peace.

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Michelle

aw muffin don't get upset cause i was busting your balls it's ok :)

she showed up to silently protest and not cause any disruptions you seem to think her standing there quietly being muslim is a disturbance and a problem, i dont :)

Let a KKK member in full robes walk around silently during a BLM protest and see what a disruption it causes.

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So it is not about the USA, I must have misunderstood the topic of this thread.

P.S: I wouldn't compare myself to nations who obviously don`t give a damn about free speech, secondly since most ME countries were bombed into the dark ages I am not sure if they are even comparable with a country who has considerable wealth and peace.

You missed the point.

She got asked to leave the rally here.

In the Middle East she would have been stoned.

Sounds to me like she has more freedom here than she would in a Middle Eastern country.

That doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want, wherever you want though.

Anyone of any race or religion would have been thrown out for doing something like that.

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See the difference is that I was bringing a legitimate related topic to the discussion. You are simply acting like a child.

As for the first part of what you said. She showed up looking to cause a scene. She knew full well that the people there wouldn't appreciate her doing that, and that is why she did it there and not on Facebook.

She got "verbally abused"? Have you seen the way Muslim women are talked to every day by their husbands? She was heckled at best.

She showed up looking for trouble, and she got it. She wasn't physically injured. No harm was done.

She isn't 12, she is 56, I think she can handle some harsh words.

do you know all muslim Husbands ? There are good and bad men in every culture . We are not treated bad as so many might believe ...it's not fair to make such a claim

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preacherman76

It happened on his watch after he has spouted various hateful rhetoric aimed at Muslims. I've yet to read that he has apologised to the woman for the violation of her right to peaceful protest and so, as far as I am concerned he - being the proprietor/organiser of the rally - is in fact "to blame" and holds responsibility for the events of the rally.

Just as I would hold Clinton to blame for the ejection of the peaceful protester you pointed out had their right violated.

By not apologising, both candidates have tacitly agreed there is no right to peaceful protest at a public gathering, and no right to the peaceful freedom of speech/expression. Both of them are eroding the laws and rights that define your society.

I highly doubt that. The only thing Ive ever heard him say was we shouldn't take these refugees in until we know who they are. Every other thing said was directly toward terrorists. Its no wonder you think that though. Ive never seen such a combined effort to demonize someone ever. Like how CNN actually reported he demanded 5 million dollars to show up at their debate.

Makes me think he's gonna really stick it to the people who have stuck it to us for a long time now. And Im down with that.

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Let a KKK member in full robes walk around silently during a BLM protest and see what a disruption it causes.

So you compare a KKK member to a Muslim, wow. If a Muslim is comparable to a KKK member, then every christian is crusader and a witch -hunter and every German a Nazi.

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Michelle

so you compare a KKK member to a Muslim, wow. If a Muslim iscomparable to a KKK member, then every christian is crusader and a witch -hunter and every German a Nazi.

Get off it...I am not. I was giving an example of how someone can silently and "innocently" cause a disruption.

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You missed the point.

She got asked to leave the rally here.

In the Middle East she would have been stoned.

Sounds to me like she has more freedom here than she would in a Middle Eastern country.

That doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want, wherever you want though.

Anyone of any race or religion would have been thrown out for doing something like that.

I was sarcastic, your point is invalid, because it doesn't matter what would have happened in the middle east since she is American, which means she is entitled to the same rights as any other American.

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Michelle

I was sarcastic, your point is invalid, because it doesn't matter what would have happened in middle east since she is American, which means she is entitled to teh same rights as any other American.

And she was treated like every other American would have been.

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Iron_Lotus

derp derp derp

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Use your brain

I was sarcastic, your point is invalid, because it doesn't matter what would have happened in middle east since she is American, which means she is entitled to teh same rights as any other American.

And she got treated like any American would.

So is the problem that they should let people silent protest in rallies?

Or does it have something to do with Muslims?

I don't think that the word Muslim should even be an issue in this discussion.

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seax

Let a KKK member in full robes walk around silently during a BLM protest and see what a disruption it causes.

Why is it when Americans protest that want sensible immigration and for the government to do one of the things it is actually suppose to do 'protect our shores' it's called 'racism.' Don't bite into it don't drink the Kook-aide. Like I said earlier, nobody sent for them.

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Michelle

So? They were on their side, not wearing t-shirts that said BLM go home, Iron_Lotus.

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Iron_Lotus

So? They were on their side, not wearing t-shirts that said BLM go home, Iron_Lotus.

bah my head was in the clouds on that one i apologize i derped when i shoulda herped and in the process my head is now about 15 feet in my own ass. you are correct and i am dumb and my previous post had nothing to do with what you had posted. my most humble apologies as well as my previous post too i wouldn't charge you a nominal fee at all :P:blush:

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