+and-then Posted January 13, 2016 #1 Share Posted January 13, 2016 http://americanactionnews.com/articles/breaking-iran-seizes-navy-vessels-obama-cowers And our dear leader is quick to reassure us that Iran has no hostile intent. I wonder what it would take to make him grow a spine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted January 13, 2016 #2 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I thought one of the boats was having problems and they drifted into Iranian territory and we are getting them back. Too bad they won't release other Americans they are holding. Which they might not return these guys if it wasn't for the fact it would be an act of war. Well if we had a different president it might be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 13, 2016 Author #3 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I thought one of the boats was having problems and they drifted into Iranian territory and we are getting them back. Too bad they won't release other Americans they are holding. Which they might not return these guys if it wasn't for the fact it would be an act of war. Well if we had a different president it might be. That is the story the administration is putting forward. Frankly I no longer believe anything they say - nothing. The timing is suspect as well. Last year they grabbed a couple of merchant ships and held hostages (guests) for a few days. It will certainly be interesting to hear the details IF the sailors are willing to leak. My guess is that if the story is inaccurate they will be threatened not to rock the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted January 13, 2016 #4 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Hussein can't be out of office soon enough. What a foreign policy disaster this administration has been. For that matter what a domestic policy disaster this administration has been. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted January 13, 2016 #5 Share Posted January 13, 2016 So much for thawing tensions between the US and Iran. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted January 13, 2016 #6 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The US has owed Iran some powerful comeuppance since 1979. And every time they do this, they keep ticking a counter on that eventuality. If only we had a leader that would lead for a change, maybe we can have this settled once and for all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 13, 2016 Author #7 Share Posted January 13, 2016 So much for thawing tensions between the US and Iran. If the administration isn't telling the whole truth then it makes me question what action the Iranian leaders will take next. They seem to be actively trying to humiliate an American president while they have a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted January 13, 2016 #8 Share Posted January 13, 2016 If the administration isn't telling the whole truth then it makes me question what action the Iranian leaders will take next. They seem to be actively trying to humiliate an American president while they have a chance. Obama's incompetence and laziness and apologism (is that a word?) empower the enemies of the US. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEHC Posted January 13, 2016 #9 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Not a big deal if the sailors are released ASAP. Edited January 13, 2016 by EEHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted January 13, 2016 #10 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Iran was just protecting it's border I don't see any fault in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 13, 2016 Author #11 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Iran was just protecting it's border I don't see any fault in it. Protecting a waterway from 2 small boats? I could see justification for boarding and inspection then seeing them on their way but they seized them. It remains to be seen if they will actually be released in a few hours. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ZZ. Posted January 13, 2016 #12 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I've seen some reports about the boats having mechanical issues and they were dead in the water and drifted. 2 boats were disabled due to mechanical problems? That's hard to believe. 1 boat may have had a problem and the other stayed with it as an escort? Too many questions. I just hope they are released soon with their vessels. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted January 13, 2016 #13 Share Posted January 13, 2016 So the two boats drifted into Iranian waters because one had a mechanical problem and the usual culprits here were already calling for WWIII?!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Posted January 13, 2016 #14 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) They are free anyway now, so Obama did his job. I wonder , if Iran was a NATO member like Turkey they would have shot the boat. Edited January 13, 2016 by hellwyr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted January 13, 2016 #15 Share Posted January 13, 2016 You know if only one of the boats was having engine problems why didn't the other boat tow them. Might have been slow but they wouldn't have drifted into Iranian waters. Was this a poke at Iran? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted January 13, 2016 #16 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Protecting a waterway from 2 small boats? I could see justification for boarding and inspection then seeing them on their way but they seized them. It remains to be seen if they will actually be released in a few hours. That's between neutral or friendly countries . Iran doesn't trust USA because of spying and sabotaging their nuclear reactors so this is quite normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEHC Posted January 13, 2016 #17 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Iran Frees U.S. Sailors Swiftly As Diplomacy Smoothes Waters: Reuters Link: http://www.reuters.c...N0UR0K120160113 Edited January 13, 2016 by EEHC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted January 13, 2016 #18 Share Posted January 13, 2016 http://americanactio...ls-obama-cowers And our dear leader is quick to reassure us that Iran has no hostile intent. I wonder what it would take to make him grow a spine. did they let them go yet? this is B.S . I want to hear our President tell them he is demanding them to..... Free our Soldiers now. Free our Soldiers Iran ! Let them go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEHC Posted January 13, 2016 #19 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) did they let them go yet? this is B.S . I want to hear our President tell them he is demanding them to..... Free our Soldiers now. Free our Soldiers Iran ! Let them go. Did you read the post above? They were released this morning, as promised. The IRGC investigated the cause of their drifting into Iranian waters and confirmed it was accidental. Case closed. Edited January 13, 2016 by EEHC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ZZ. Posted January 13, 2016 #20 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) I thought the "surrender" was a disgrace. US sailors on their knees with their hands behind their heads? What are their weapons for? Decoration? And when the LT. that was commanding, gushed at how well they were treated and admitted fault. This would never have happened when I was in the US Navy. Then SoS John Kerry thanks the Iranians! Edited January 13, 2016 by ZZ430 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted January 13, 2016 #21 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I thought the "surrender" was a disgrace. US sailors on their knees with their hands behind their heads? What are their weapons for? Decoration? And when the LT. that was commanding, gushed at how well they were treated and admitted fault. This would never have happened when I was in the US Navy. Then SoS John Kerry thanks the Iranians! Sometimes I wonder if this was done on purpose so our government could say "Look what happens when diplomacy is applied" in an effort to make Trump not look so good to Americans. If only one of those boats was disabled there is no reason they couldn't have towed it or if no rope push it. I would have certainly tried something before I would have let it drift into Iranian waters. Something doesn't smell right about this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted January 13, 2016 #22 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'll just reserve my opinion until the Hollywood version is released ... ~ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ZZ. Posted January 13, 2016 #23 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Sometimes I wonder if this was done on purpose so our government could say "Look what happens when diplomacy is applied" in an effort to make Trump not look so good to Americans. If only one of those boats was disabled there is no reason they couldn't have towed it or if no rope push it. I would have certainly tried something before I would have let it drift into Iranian waters. Something doesn't smell right about this. I've been thinking just that myself Ashotep. Of course the remaining boat should have able to tow the disabled one. If nothing else take them aboard and get to a safe place. Are we now going to hear that their radios were also "disabled"? The whole thing stinks of politics! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEHC Posted January 13, 2016 #24 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) I thought the "surrender" was a disgrace. US sailors on their knees with their hands behind their heads? What are their weapons for? Decoration? Who would throw his life away in such a foolish manner? The sailors were outnumbered and knew they were at fault. This was accidental. The incident was quickly resolved, as should be, sailors were well-treated and now everybody will go back home and see their wives and kids. Edited January 13, 2016 by EEHC 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 13, 2016 Author #25 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Who would throw his life away in such a foolish manner? The sailors were outnumbered and knew they were at fault. This was accidental. The incident was quickly resolved, as should be, sailors were well-treated and now everybody will go back home and see their wives and kids. The point here is that Iran should have simply confirmed they were non hostile and allowed them to go on their way in international waters. Unless someone is saying that both these boats were disabled at the same time. That said, I am glad they were released because had they been kept for months, Obama would have done nothing to secure their release. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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