Paranormal Panther Posted February 11, 2016 #126 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Bernies promise of freebies will get him the votes, not to mention the people that want open borders, but I wonder if his past will catch up to him, like being a member of the Socialist Workers Party. Also there is no way he will get many of his policies past the republicans. If there was someone worthwhile challenging him I don't think he would be doing so well. The main thing about Bernie I like is health care for everyone but there are other things that I don't like about him at all. Sanders Was Delegate for Radical Platform: Eliminate Pentagon, CIA I liked Bernie Sanders. Then, he met with Al Sharpton. That was a deal-breaker for me. Sanders evidently forgot about the Brawley and Duke cases. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted February 11, 2016 #127 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I have zero love for Democrats, but what a horrible choice to make, between a 74 year old avowed socialist who honeymooned in the former USSR and thinks everything must be free, and a pathological lying woman who could be indicted at any moment, who took care of "bimbo eruptions" for Slick Willie. Seriously, is that the best you can do? Well, there's a control freak, who hates giant Slurpees, who might run as an Independent. "Out of my cold dead hands, Bloomberg!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted February 11, 2016 #128 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Popular thought doesn't mean fact... popular thought has been very wrong several times. I agree. The election(s) of Obama is Exhibit A. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted February 11, 2016 #129 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Why arrest pickpockets, muggers and petty thieves when there are murderers out there? You haven't been robbed....yet. It's easy to condemn everyone else's choices when you make none. Why don't we just let the government handle everything without our input? I'm not of childbearing age, why should I care about whether they outlaw abortions or not? (extreme sarcasm there) Your candidate isn't running again so you'll just take your ball and go home. That's right I haven't been robbed yet, and that makes all the difference. Normally we prosecute crimes after they occur, not hypothetical crimes and their fluffed up rhetorical criminals. What was I suggesting the government handle? Everything? Certainly not. Any thing? What's that? The Republican email committee? Nope, not that either. Rand Paul isn't running anymore and I'm sorry you think that's a bad reflection of me somehow, but Kasich is running and at least he's not a 6th grader who appeals to the loud bottom feeding 33% of the Republican party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTheManiac Posted February 11, 2016 #130 Share Posted February 11, 2016 You don't have to fear President Sanders, oh wait you guys fear EVERYTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockornothing Posted February 11, 2016 #131 Share Posted February 11, 2016 You don't have to fear President Sanders, oh wait you guys fear EVERYTHING. I don't fear the thought of a President Sanders, I just don't want to have to personally pay for a President Sanders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted February 11, 2016 Author #132 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I love the Bernie memes. He is a ludicrous old fool that the country has been laughing at for years but now the sillyennials, who have no idea what real socialism means, love the old fool. I doubt that he will beat Hillary, she is too entrenched and far more Machiavellian than old Bernie the red but he is doing a bang up job of cutting her to pieces and alienating her from the young democrat base. When the sillyennials see how the DNC steals the nomination from them (see superdelegates and how they are bought and paid for) and gets an indicted Hillary on the ballot, there will be loud whines and tear filled tantrums emanating from millions of parent's basements across the continent as pajama boys throw their iPads, that Mom & Dad paid for, against the wall in disgust. That said, this is certainly like no other primary season I have ever seen and I think the one thing we should take from it is the electorate is ANGRY and looking to punish the entrenched plutocracy of old school politicians. I can see, possibly, a constitutional convention coming that will place term limits on both houses of Congress. Needless to say, the next few months will be very interesting too watch. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundew Posted February 11, 2016 #133 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Well, there's a control freak, who hates giant Slurpees, who might run as an Independent. "Out of my cold dead hands, Bloomberg!" Yes, but he is threatening to run as an independent, and he will take a huge chunk of Democrat votes. He could be the Democrat's Ross Parot, lol! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted February 11, 2016 #134 Share Posted February 11, 2016 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted February 11, 2016 #135 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Yes, but he is threatening to run as an independent, and he will take a huge chunk of Democrat votes. He could be the Democrat's Ross Parot, lol! You read my mind. I thought about Ross Perot before I read your complete post. Bloomberg would indeed get many or some Clinton votes. He likely would get votes from Establishment RINOs too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted February 11, 2016 #136 Share Posted February 11, 2016 That's perfect! I think that the reverend works for one of the alphabet agencies. That's why he's not in jail or prison. That's why he's consulted by progressives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted February 11, 2016 #137 Share Posted February 11, 2016 That's perfect! I think that the reverend works for one of the alphabet agencies. That's why he's not in jail or prison. That's why he's consulted by progressives. The agent provocateur theory huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted February 11, 2016 #138 Share Posted February 11, 2016 There seems to be a lot of feeling that the government is corrupt. Would that be an indication of how well capitalism does work? Anything and everything is available for a price? So how do we fix it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted February 11, 2016 #139 Share Posted February 11, 2016 The agent provocateur theory huh? He worked with the FBI when they targeted the Mafia. Maybe he got a free pass. He did and said terrible things. Yet, he visited the White House. He got a talk show on a cable network. Progressives and "penitents" routinely bowed and scraped to him. The cabal chose him. His past was forgotten. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted February 11, 2016 #140 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I don't think it's hypocrisy. Powell had less than a dozen in his email that were "confidential" at the time he left office. He turned them over at that time. Hillary had hundreds, if not thousands, that were "top secret" and she did not hand them over when she left office. They are supposed to be a matter of government record, not on her private server that she had to be forced to reveal. It's the difference between shoplifting a pair of underwear at Walmart and robbing a bank or insider trading. How many times do you have to break the law to be guilty thereof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 11, 2016 #141 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I thought it was a joke when I heard it mentioned the Bernie and Sharpton had lunch and neither knew how to pick up the bill afterwards and pay for it. But to my surprise Sanders really did have a lunch meeting with Al Sharpton. See, everything's about making deals and negotiation. You know Al Sharpton is getting something in return if he helps Bernie Sanders out. If Bernie Sanders raises min. wage to $15. as he's says he will, I think job positions will change leading employees responsible for more than double work duties is what i think. It's already pretty bad in most work places and will only get even worse off. I think that when people start taking from the rich, the rich will leave and yeah maybe some may feel that well let them leave anyway. Unfortunately, we can't convert to socialism ideologies ever. I notice that Sanders speaks too much about the world instead of focusing on America mainly. How can anyone help anyone else if they can't straighten out their own problems? besides we are not obligated to helping the world...most of the world only uses us anyway because they have been mislead to feel entitled to steal from us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted February 11, 2016 Author #142 Share Posted February 11, 2016 How many times do you have to break the law to be guilty thereof? Where was it stated that they are being let off the hook? Both are being investigated and both are cooperating, something that Hillary most certainly is not doing. I will tell you, however, again as this has been told to you before, that the punishments for mishandling classified material vary with the level of classification of said material. It is matter of how much damage the release of the material could cause. the stuff that Rice and Powell had on their email was way low on the scale where as what Hillary was handling was about as sensitive as you can get. A comparison would be stealing a candy bar (confidential), stealing a suit (secret) or stealing a 4 carat diamond and killing the guard (TS SAP HUMINT). Are you suggesting each of these crimes should be punished exactly the same? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted February 11, 2016 #143 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Where was it stated that they are being let off the hook? Both are being investigated and both are cooperating, something that Hillary most certainly is not doing. I will tell you, however, again as this has been told to you before, that the punishments for mishandling classified material vary with the level of classification of said material. It is matter of how much damage the release of the material could cause. the stuff that Rice and Powell had on their email was way low on the scale where as what Hillary was handling was about as sensitive as you can get. A comparison would be stealing a candy bar (confidential), stealing a suit (secret) or stealing a 4 carat diamond and killing the guard (TS SAP HUMINT). Are you suggesting each of these crimes should be punished exactly the same? No, but once we are at arresting thieves and pilferers we should go after all, not just those that are politically opportune for the one or other party. The first is called law enforcement, the second hypocritical opportunism. That is what certain people (especially on the extreme right) don't seem to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted February 11, 2016 #144 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I disagree. Even if we can't get all the lower offenses going after Hillary will send a huge message if there is a substantial punishment. She's top tier and making an example out of her will send a huge message. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted February 11, 2016 #145 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I disagree. Even if we can't get all the lower offenses going after Hillary will send a huge message if there is a substantial punishment. She's top tier and making an example out of her will send a huge message. Naturally you disagree, out of political opportunism, and that is your right. It is my right to call you on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted February 11, 2016 #146 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Naturally you disagree, out of political opportunism, and that is your right. It is my right to call you on it. So you think everyone who believes Hillary should be prosecuted is doing it purely out of political opportunism and leans to the extreme right. Nice open mind you have there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted February 11, 2016 Author #147 Share Posted February 11, 2016 No, but once we are at arresting thieves and pilferers we should go after all, not just those that are politically opportune for the one or other party. The first is called law enforcement, the second hypocritical opportunism. That is what certain people (especially on the extreme right) don't seem to understand. No argument with that and once again, no matter how hard you try and make it about politics it isn't. People are punished daily for mishandling classified material and no one asks if they are democrat or republican. The only person who doesn't seem to understand this, page after page after page in thread after thread is you so who is the extremist here? No one is saying that Powell and Rice are innocent and no one protected Petraeus but you cry foul when Hillary is investigated for a truly serious breach of security. Look in the mirror before calling other extremists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted February 11, 2016 #148 Share Posted February 11, 2016 No argument with that and once again, no matter how hard you try and make it about politics it isn't. People are punished daily for mishandling classified material and no one asks if they are democrat or republican. The only person who doesn't seem to understand this, page after page after page in thread after thread is you so who is the extremist here? No one is saying that Powell and Rice are innocent and no one protected Petraeus but you cry foul when Hillary is investigated for a truly serious breach of security. Look in the mirror before calling other extremists. I don't cry foul because she is investigated. That is part of what government is about, investigate wrongdoing. I cry foul that she is portrayed as guilty for being investigated. That is quite a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 11, 2016 #149 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) I don't cry foul because she is investigated. That is part of what government is about, investigate wrongdoing. I cry foul that she is portrayed as guilty for being investigated. That is quite a difference. says the guy who tells me to use my brain...LOL ETD - Actually it's not funny. There's some of you on this forum community here that keep twisting things like defending her and yet claim to not be doing just that. I cry foul too, to you and anyone else for even suggesting that she is being "portrayed" as guilty for being investigated when we all know that the truth in this matter is that she absolutely lied to us all. We know she lied, how can that not be seen as someone guilty with something to hide and cover-up? If she's portrayed as guilty,it's because of her own actions. Edited February 11, 2016 by Ellapennella 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 11, 2016 #150 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Why is Hillery being discussed on the Let's talk about Bernie thread? Who brought her into the conversation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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