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Clinton Email Scandal Facts

Baz Dane

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Alrite, grab some more popcorn and have a seat. If you're somehow a Clinton fan, you really won't like this post.

Here's a list some of the facts I've compiled about Hillary's email scandal, and other stuff in general that was happening during her term in Office as Secretary Of State, that I find very interesting and maybe you can draw your own conclusions of what actually happened overall. I know I have.

The list of sources for this is huge... almost as long as this post :lol: ... so I won't add them at the bottom making this even longer, but will be happy to point out any references made... though you should be able to find it all for yourself... I did afterall :tu:

(Note - Bolded material is direct-quoted from various sources)


- When Obama became President in 2009 he named Hillary Clinton as Secretary Of State which is fourth in the Presidential Line of Succession. Secretary Of State is the top of the food chain in matters of Foreign Affairs IE: Libya, Syria etc.

- Obama failed to nominate a State Department Inspector General for the entire duration of Hillary's time in Office.

- Hillary used her own private server(s), based in her house, exclusively for the entire time she was head of State Dept.

- The "acting" State Department Inspector General(appointed by the Bush Administration), Harold Geisel, had previously worked in Bill Clinton's Administration as an Ambassador, thus making him ineligible to be the State Dept. IG. He would stay on as "acting" IG for Hillary's entire term thanks to Obama's lack of action.

- Geisel had also previously donated to Obama in 2008.

- A properly appointed and approved(by the Senate) IG would have(or by job definition "should" have) discovered Hillary's use of the home server and took actions early on to correct the situation.

- Clinton wanted to hire Sidney Blumenthal to the State Department, but Obama nixed that as Blumenthal was more than aggressive against Obama during the 2008 election primaries, when he was working for Hillary's campaign against Obama on the Democrat side.

- Blumenthal's relationship goes back to the days of Bill Clinton's sex scandals and have remained close since.

- Despite President Obama denying Clinton's request to hire Blumenthal to the State Dept., she did anyways... in a round about way... Blumenthal was hired instead by the Clinton Foundation in 2009 with a $10,000.00 a month job for allegedly "highlighting the legacy of (Bill)Clinton’s presidency" that lasted until 2013 and was then switched to consulting contract with the same pay, but no benefits until March 2015.

- Blumenthal invested in a military contractor company in Libya called Osprey Global Solutions that were doing business with Libyan rebel groups.

- Blumenthal also worked/coordinated with Tyler Drumheller who had his own mini-CIA "agency" called "Tyler Drumheller LLC", complete with ex-CIA agents like himself, as well as ex-military and ex-government officials.

- Blumenthal's emails were hacked by "Guccifer" and they showed a number of things including that Blumenthal was forwarding plenty of Intelligence about Libya from Drumheller to Clinton, and Clinton was removing any indications of it being originated from Blumenthal/Drumheller before she would pass the Intelligence on through the Administration.

- "Clinton never directly corresponded via email with Stevens, who requested armed reinforcements multiple times just before he was killed in the September 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi."

- January 2014, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a Report on the September 11 2012 Benghazi attacks on the U.S. Consulate and the nearby CIA Annex.

- According to Pulitzer-Prize Winning Reporter Sy Hersh(and others)... "A highly classified annex to the report, not made public, described a secret agreement reached in early 2012 between the Obama and Erdoğan administrations. [...] the CIA, with the support of MI6, was responsible for getting arms from Gaddafi’s arsenals into Syria. [...] The operation was run by David Petraeus, the CIA director who would soon resign when it became known he was having an affair with his biographer. [...] The operation had not been disclosed at the time it was set up to the congressional intelligence committees and the congressional leadership, as required by law since the 1970s." (My underlines)

Secretary Of State Clinton would be one in charge of such operations, and any emails regarding such operations would naturally be classified... and where was she keeping her emails again?

There are plenty of news agencies citing evidence that Gaddafi's weapon's stockpiles were being transferred out of Libya into Syria.

- A U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency Report, done on August 12 2012, and declassified though FOIA in 2015, states; "The Salafist, The Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria. The West, Gulf Countries, and Turkey support the opposition; while Russia, China, and Iran support the regime. [...] If the situation unravels there is the possibilty of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in Eastern Syria(Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the oppostion want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime." (My underlines)


- March 22, 2013 - Guccifer hacks into Blumenthal's email account finding classified correspondence between Blumenthal and Clinton and would later reveal Clinton's private server.

- March 4, 2015, - the Associated Press publishes that Clinton's personal email address leads back to her private server in her home at Chappaqua, New York.

- March 10, 2015 - Clinton tell reporters that she deleted 31,000+ emails, that were personal, the year before, and that she will not hand over her server to investigators.

- April 23, 2015 - the House Benghazi Committee will ask again, through her lawyer to hand over the server.

- August 11, 2015 - FBI takes custody of Clinton's server.

- August 19, 2015 - Clinton's lawyer tells a Senate committee that all data, including emails, was erased from her server prior to it being turned over to the FBI... FBI Director Comey later confirms this.

A little interjection here with some other facts of relevance...

Most people are using General David Petraeus or Colin Powell or Condoleezza Rice in drawing comparisons to what Hillary has done, in as far as classified materials goes, but I think the better comparison would be former CIA Director John Deutch.

- December 14, 1996 - CIA Director John Deutch's last day at work.

- December 17, 1996 - It's discovered that there is classified material on Deutch's government issued "non classified computer" that Duetch has at his home in Maryland.

- December 27, 1996 - Deutch's computer is seized from his house.

- January 20, 2001 - On Bill Clinton's last day in Office, he pardoned a bunch of people, including John Deutch(as well as drug dealers). This was a "pre-emptive" pardon, as Deutch had worked out a plea deal that would keep him out of jail for having classified material on his home computer, but the pardon came before the indictment was filed with the courts.

That would be a more similar scenario to Clinton's email scandal... Both had classified materials, on systems at their homes, while neither were officially part of the government, nor authorized to keep such material in their private possession.

One big difference though was that Deutch was allowed to have a "non-classified" government-issued computer at his home, signed with an agreement on contract, while Clinton's home sever was a secret until finally exposed.

But for some reason, while Deutch's home computer was seized by authorities within days of the discovery of classified material on it, Clinton was allowed to keep her server for about 6 months AFTER it was requested to be handed in(not seized).

She and her team were allowed to sift through and decide what emails were deemed "personal" and which ones were work related... with NO oversight whatsoever. She says they deleted them the year before(she wouldn't lie would she?). Why she allowed to keep the server for 6 months, and then hand it in "wiped clean"?

Here's a quote from Daily Caller in May 10, 2015 which would be almost a full 5 months BEFORE Clinton handed over her server...

- "Without a detailed, unadulterated analysis of Clinton’s email server, we have no idea what kind of information was compromised."


Back to a little more facts that happened BEFORE we knew she was operating her communications with no oversight...

- During the Benghazi Hearings we learned that of the emails that Hillary DID hand over concerning Libya from Feb 2011 to Sept 11, 2012(the day of the attacks), Hillary sent or received 795 Libya-related emails in 2011, but only 65 Lybia-related emails in 2012. Only 65? In ALL of 2012???

- From FBI Director James Comey's statement clearing Hillary two weeks ago... "It is also likely that there are other work-related e-mails that they did not produce to State and that we did not find elsewhere, and that are now gone because they deleted all e-mails they did not return to State, and the lawyers cleaned their devices in such a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery." (That's a criminal charge right there... if they find one of those emails somewhere.)

- February 17, 2011 - Activists designate February 17 as a day of rage, a day after first riots in Benghazi.

- February 22, 2011 - Gaddafi vows to die a "martyr" in Libya and says he will crush a revolt which has seen eastern regions break free from four decades of his rule.

- October 20, 2011 - Gaddafi is captured and killed.

- October 20, 2011 - "We came, we saw, he died" Hillary Clinton proudly proclaimed with a laugh.

2012 ... U.S. election year, slated for November 6

- September 11, 2012 - As noted above, the U.S. Consulate and CIA Annex in Benghazi, Libya is attacked for 13 hours.

- September 11, 2012 - State Dept. notes from a conversation between Clinton and Libyan President Mohamed Magariaf reveal Clinton stated "We have asked for the Libyan government to provide additional security to the compound immediately as there is a gun battle ongoing, which I understand Ansar as Sharia is claiming responsibility for."

- September 11, 2012 - Clinton emails her daughter Chelsea and states "Two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an Al Queda-like group."

- September 12, 2012 - Clinton suggests the attacks were in response to a Youtube video... "Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior, along with the protest that took place at our Embassy in Cairo yesterday, as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet."

- September 13, 2012 - "CNN reported that the attackers were part of an Al Qaeda spinoff group. They spoke with Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who said the killings were possibly linked to the terrorist group blamed for the 9/11 hijackings."

- September 14, 2012 - Leon Panetta briefed the Senate Armed Services Committee, which afterwards Senate Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin stated... "I think it was a planned, premeditated attack." 

- September 14, 2012 - Clinton tell the families of the victims the attack was spontaneous result of a protest against a Youtube video. Charles Woods, father of Banghazi victim Tyrone Woods would later say... "And she said we are going to have the film maker arrested who was responsible for the death of my son…’She said — the filmmaker who was responsible for the death of your son’..."

- September 16, 2012 - U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice appeared on several Sunday morning talk shows and stated, “Putting together the best information that we have available to us today our current assessment is that what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo, almost a copycat of-- of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo, which were prompted, of course, by the video. What we think then transpired in Benghazi is that opportunistic extremist elements came to the consulate as this was unfolding. They came with heavy weapons which unfortunately are readily available in post revolutionary Libya. And it escalated into a much more violent episode."

- September 25, 2012 - Senators John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Kelly Ayotte and Ron Johnson issue a statement stating... "Either the Obama administration is misleading Congress and the American people, or it is blaming the entire failure on the intelligence community." in response to Rice's assertions that she "relied solely and squarely on the information the intelligence community provided" to her in making her previous statements.

- January 23, 2013 - Testifying before Congress about the Benghazi attacks and the reasons of WHY the attack happened to begin with(video vs pre-planned), Hillary makes her now infamous "What difference, at this point, does it make?" statement.

- "She also stated, in response to Senator Rand Paul's question about the U.S. transferring weapons to Turkey from Libya, "I do not know. I don't have any information on that," further stating, "you'll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex."

Don't forget... she only allegedly had 65 emails for all of 2012 and wiped the server clean.

On to the FBI and the Justice Department clearing Hillary and not recommending any charges.

- June 27, 2016 - Bill Clinton meets with Attorney General Loretta Lynch in Phoenix, Arizona on her plane on the tarmac. She later says they did NOT discuss the FBI's investigation of Hillary, but talked about grandchildren and Clinton playing golf in Phoenix instead... Clinton did no golfing on this trip.

- June 29, 2016 - ABC15 reporter Chris Sign breaks the news about the impromptu meeting between Lynch and Clinton.

- June 30, 2016 - ABC15 reporter Chris Sign makes an appearance on The O’Reilly Factor and states that the FBI were warning off all people near Lynch's plane, where she was meeting with Clinton, apparently saying "no photos, no pictures, no cell phones." in what looks like an attempt to keep the meeting secret.

- July 1, 2016 - "Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch, conceding that her airport meeting with former President Bill Clinton this week had cast a shadow over the federal investigation of Hillary Clinton’s personal email account, said Friday that she would accept whatever recommendations career prosecutors and the F.B.I. director made about whether to bring charges in the case."

- July 05, 2016 - FBI's James Comey issue statement saying... "we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case."

- "... in violation of a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way, or a second statute making it a misdemeanor to knowingly remove classified information from appropriate systems or storage facilities."

- "...  there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."

- "... Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information..."

- "None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff..."

- "To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences."

- July 6, 2016 - Loretta Lynch of the Justice Department follows the FBI's recommendation of no charges... Just as she said she would... 4 days after meeting with Bill Clinton...

- "The U.S. Justice Department's investigation into Hillary Clinton's email setup has been formally closed without any criminal charges, Attorney General Loretta Lynch said"

Case closed.

Previous connections...

- July 19, 2004 - Justice Department reveals they are investigating Samuel "Sandy" Berger, former Bill Clinton Administration National Security Advisor, for stealing documents from the National Archives in late 2003, relating to Terrorism during the Clinton Administration of the 1990's. He ultimately was fined $50,000.00 and given 100 hours of Community Service, and lost his security clearance and law license.

- "In 2004, Comey, then serving as a deputy attorney general in the Justice Department, apparently limited the scope of the criminal investigation of Sandy Berger, which left out former Clinton administration officials who may have coordinated with Berger in his removal and destruction of classified records from the National Archives. The documents were relevant to accusations that the Clinton administration was negligent in the build-up to the 9/11 terrorist attack."

- Loretta Lynch was appointed United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York in 1999 by Bill Clinton. She left in 2001 to become a partner in Washington law firm Hogan & Hartson. Also working there as "partners" were Sandy Berger and Cheryl Mills. They would do the Clinton's tax returns as well as "patent work for a software firm that played a role in the private email server Hillary Clinton used when she was secretary of state."

- Hillary Clinton was New York Senator from January 3, 2001 to January 21, 2009. During that time, James Comey was United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, from January 7, 2002 to December 15, 2003, before going to the Justice Department, and Loretta Lynch was United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, from June 2, 1999 to May 2, 2001 and then again from May 8, 2010 to April 27, 2015... Comey's whole time coincided with Hillary's time as Senator, while Lynch's last few months were during Hillary's first few months. Then Lynch went on to work with Berger and Cheryl Mills for the Clintons.


I haven't even barely touched on the Clinton Foundation you may have noticed. That would need a thread(or 10) on it's own.

But if you look into it you start to see the global reach and power the Clintons have amassed for themselves. At the expense of the American public perhaps? Here's another little bit of what I call Scandal there...

Bill Clinton was paid $16.5 million between 2010 and 2014 to serve as an "honorary chancellor" for Laureate International Universities. He gave 8 speeches.

Laureate was given $55 million in grants during that time from Hillary's State Department.

Laureate also donated between $1 to $5 million (donations are reported in ranges, not exact amounts) to the Clinton Foundation.

- "A Bloomberg examination of IYF’s public filings show that in 2009, the year before Bill Clinton joined Laureate, the nonprofit received 11 grants worth $9 million from the State Department or the affiliated USAID. In 2010, the group received 14 grants worth $15.1 million. In 2011, 13 grants added up to $14.6 million. The following year, those numbers jumped: IYF received 21 grants worth $25.5 million, including a direct grant from the State Department."

What it appears to look like is that Hillary approved $55 million in grants(tax payer money) over 4 years, and the Clinton's, in one form or another, took back approx $21.5 million of it.

Think what you will, but I think it's all right up there with some of the biggest pile of corruption and cover-ups I've ever seen. How this criminal is allowed to be running for President of the United States is stunning. This is but one Clinton Scandal, and their record of scandals goes back to the 1980's in Arkansas. Trump meanwhile, to be sure, not the best to politically represent the U.S. either of course, but he carries nowhere near the amount of scandalous activities in his repertoire, and certainly not a trail of dead bodies like Clinton has in hers(who also likes to gloat about some), and yet the "establishment" type politicos, the MSM, as well as BOTH the Democrat and Republican parties are gunning to "Dump Trump" and clinging to Hillary???

To me, combined with everything else, this just shows me that the system is indeed rigged and some people are way above the law. Such as a Clinton or a Bush.

The Bush family have had a finger of influence(at the least) on the U.S. Presidency for almost a century(around 85 years), going back to Samuel Bush(great grand daddy Bush) who was an advisor to Herbert Hoover. (Grand daddy Prescott Bush(Senator) was good friends with President Eisenhower and buddy-buddy with Nixon as well, with Ford as a Bush family friend also). The Clinton's joined the party in the 1980's and got the throne in 1993, and here we are 36 years later(from H.W. Bush as Vice President in 1981) and everyone is ready to coronate another Clinton, with only an Obama(as a Bush/Clinton stooge) disrupting the "monarchy" by actual name.

It beyond ridiculous that for that many years, these 2 families have been able to "rule" in some way. Something is very wrong with that IMO. The world we live in today is a direct result of this IMO as well. Very sad, by now we should be living on a much more peaceful planet with far less disease and starvation and have longer life expectancies, but instead we are ALWAYS on the brink of "War" with someone(Soviets, Drugs, Terror, etc) and the corruption, scandals and greed from the elites continue to rise in scale year after year.



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Looks like they are going to try and go after Hillary for committing perjury during her testimony at the Benghazi Committee hearings...

(Referral at bottom)


Here's Jason Chaffetz being interviewed on The O'Reilly Factor. I know it's "Faux", but it's funny to watch Bill O'Reilly telling it like it is in saying that Comey's not going to do anything...

Sadly, he's correct. But it's refreshing and worth the watch to see a television "anchor/reporter," or whatever you want to call him, telling it like it is. :tu: What he says about the referral and Comey, and how he says it is not exactly "politically correct", but it's very true IMO, as we shall soon see I'm sure.



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Firstly re: the OP, shouldn't you have some references and/or links to where you got this information from?    You didn't pull this out of your own head after all.

Second, who wants to bet anyone in government is going to want to investigate BARACK OBAMA over any of this?    Why in the world, if half of this were even true, would someone still keep their non-partisan and objective investigations focused solely on Hillary Clinton?    We're really more interested to hear another testimony from Hillary Clinton about this and just leave it at that?   Fire the Sheriff, because this is no way to conduct a real investigation.   She's a cog in the wheel, and yet she's still all that matters?   No.

Break the wheel, or go home. 

But we'll just go home.   Because we sure as hell don't want to investigate President Obama's foreign policy for chrissakes.   Picture Joe Republican shooting himself right in the face.  Total career killer.   Because they want to arm their good guys in the world without treaty, law, authority or announcement, in whatever dirty sleazebag way Hillary Clinton does too. 

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9 hours ago, Yamato said:

Firstly re: the OP, shouldn't you have some references and/or links to where you got this information from?    You didn't pull this out of your own head after all.

Second, who wants to bet anyone in government is going to want to investigate BARACK OBAMA over any of this?    Why in the world, if half of this were even true, would someone still keep their non-partisan and objective investigations focused solely on Hillary Clinton?    We're really more interested to hear another testimony from Hillary Clinton about this and just leave it at that?   Fire the Sheriff, because this is no way to conduct a real investigation.   She's a cog in the wheel, and yet she's still all that matters?   No.

Break the wheel, or go home. 

But we'll just go home.   Because we sure as hell don't want to investigate President Obama's foreign policy for chrissakes.   Picture Joe Republican shooting himself right in the face.  Total career killer.   Because they want to arm their good guys in the world without treaty, law, authority or announcement, in whatever dirty sleazebag way Hillary Clinton does too. 


Re: Firstly... Actually, I did pull it mostly out of my head. But I also did mention...

- "The list of sources for this is huge... almost as long as this post :lol: ... so I won't add them at the bottom making this even longer, but will be happy to point out any references made..."

In response to your question then, you should be able to find what you're looking for in amongst here...





































https://books.google.ca/books?id=OYkB7YWZ2rUC&pg=PA115&lpg=PA115&dq=samuel+bush+advisor+to+Herbert+Hoover&source=bl&ots=EcPZmjRVrO&sig=QacntM5hE38b6XahUOps3cunTww&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwim-s6vlfHNAhXr8YMKHdswBVgQ6AEILTAD#v=onepage&q=samuel bush advisor to Herbert Hoover&f=false






Secondly... The answer to your questions are probably NO, even though Obama was likely party to the shenanigans going on with Hillary's server by not nominating a State Dept IG, he won't be called out for it... and the focus is on her only I suppose as she likely has the most dirt and scandal on her out of anyone in politics right now. And it's yet ANOTHER Clinton scandal.

Personally, and I've said this before, but I think the real crimes were to be found in the 30,000+ emails she deleted. They used the "HOW she handled classified information" mantra to distract the public into thinking that, that, was the real issue.


- "Why in the world, if half of this were even true..."

It's all true as far as I can tell. :tu:

- "Because they want to arm their good guys in the world without treaty, law, authority or announcement, in whatever dirty sleazebag way Hillary Clinton does too."

Pretty much... yeah. 

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That OP is way, way, way too long. I probably agree with 99% of what you wrote, but I'm not going to actually read it. Similarly I'm not going to check all those links. 

The short of it is that Hillary is a scandal monster, and a out and out liar. She's committed Federal Crimes and she should leave the race for a more worthy Democrat champion to take the nomination. 

But... She won't.

Because the Presidency is all she's been aiming at since her college days. With the ring in sight, she'll have to be dragged off like the Joker, kicking and screaming to Arkham Assylum. 

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14,900 new Clinton emails have been found... part of the 33,000 emails Clinton deleted I believe.

August 22, 2016

- "FBI uncovers 14,900 more documents in Clinton email probe"

- "The FBI’s year-long investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server uncovered 14,900 emails and documents from her time as secretary of state that had not been disclosed by her attorneys..."


Benghazi emails amongst the discoveries.

August 25, 2016

- "In a court filing this week, the State Department admitted it had found Benghazi-related documents among the 14,900 Clinton emails and attachments uncovered by the FBI that Mrs. Clinton deleted and withheld from the State Department."

- "The 14,900 new Clinton emails were uncovered as a result of separate Judicial Watch litigation seeking all of Mrs. Clinton’s work related emails."

- "It is astonishing that Hillary Clinton tried to delete and hide Benghazi emails and documents. No wonder federal courts in Florida and DC are ordering the State Department to stop stalling and begin releasing the 14,900 new Clinton emails,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton."



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I wonder what Hillary will say about the emails which were not turned over? My guess.... "We were going to print them out to hand over, but we ran out of paper...."

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Trump runs his mouth rudely and often says rather ignorant things.

Clinton, however, has done some very dangerous/horrible things...and then lied and covered them up.

Just wonderful isn't it?

**GIANT COMET 2016**


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I wonder what degree of participation there is in the US by way of membership of political parties, compared to the past. In Australia, the numbers are less than 1960 levels, when the population was half as much as now. Apathy leads to the kind of dross being served up as candidates these days.

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3 hours ago, Lilly said:

Trump runs his mouth rudely and often says rather ignorant things.

Clinton, however, has done some very dangerous/horrible things...and then lied and covered them up.

Just wonderful isn't it?

**GIANT COMET 2016**


Duke the dog  mayor for president may become a write in before the comet comes. LOL

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So how about that... now they've just discovered another 14,900 that Clinton and hers lawyers didn't hand over, some, according to the State Department, containing Benghazi information.

Oops! :tu:

Remember what I said about part of Comey's statement in the OP...


From FBI Director James Comey's statement clearing Hillary two weeks ago... "It is also likely that there are other work-related e-mails that they did not produce to State and that we did not find elsewhere, and that are now gone because they deleted all e-mails they did not return to State, and the lawyers cleaned their devices in such a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery." (That's a criminal charge right there... if they find one of those emails somewhere.)

(underline added)

Here's some laws where Clinton SHOULD have been(and still should be) facing charges against... If it were you or I... or John Deutch... we WOULD have been facing charges... but I want to speculate here, that indictments for Hillary Clinton, combined with a pre-pardon(like John Deutch), would have lost Hillary the White House for sure perhaps. They didn't want to chance it. So, better just not to charge her at all I suppose. :wacko: (End of speculation)


18 U.S.C. 1924 (a),(c)

- "Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both."

- "In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security."

18 U.S.C. 793 (f)

- "Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."

18 U.S.C. 2701 (b)

- "Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States."

18 U.S.C. 641

- "Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof; or Whoever receives, conceals, or retains the same with intent to convert it to his use or gain, knowing it to have been embezzled, stolen, purloined or converted— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both..."

We can not know exactly WHY Comey didn't recommend charges... I'll address(speculate, for the politically correct) that in my next post... when it's crystal clear that Clinton broke the law, in which Comey even confirmed that in his public statement when describing Clinton's actions taken, as discovered by the FBI.

She was extremely careless with, and in possession of classified documents, without authority(she was a private citizen) for over 2 years, where she knowingly had it stored, in an unauthorized location, put there by her, on purpose, and then she destoryed those records instead of handing them over as the law clearly states. And those are the records we know about from the initial FBI investigation up until Comey's public statement... "110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains".

Now there's 14,900 more emails discovered, and unless the Benghazi ones, that the State Department has reportedly said were amongst them, are about Hillary taking yoga lessons in Syria or something like that, I would hazard a guess and say that they too were "work-related" emails, which as I said in the OP and quoted above. That's a criminal charge. 

She should have been indicted at the very least.

The laws, the facts, and her actions are all very crystal clear.  

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The Comey-Clinton Connection continued(from the OP)...

About Comey's first dealings with the Clintons From TIME...(my underlines)

- "Comey’s first brush with them came when Bill Clinton was president. Looking to get back into government after a stint in private practice, Comey signed on as deputy special counsel to the Senate Whitewater Committee. In 1996, after months of work, Comey came to some damning conclusions: Hillary Clinton was personally involved in mishandling documents and had ordered others to block investigators as they pursued their case. Worse, her behavior fit into a pattern of concealment: she and her husband had tried to hide their roles in two other matters under investigation by law enforcement. Taken together, the interference by White House officials, which included destruction of documents, amounted to “far more than just aggressive lawyering or political naiveté,” Comey and his fellow investigators concluded. It constituted “a highly improper pattern of deliberate misconduct."

- "Comey parlayed the Whitewater job into top posts in Virginia and New York, returning to Manhattan in 2002 to be the top federal prosecutor there. One of his first cases as a line attorney in the same office 15 years earlier had been the successful prosecution of Marc Rich..."


Hope you caught all that... in both quotes. I'm very surprised TIME would have that article still up, considering their own relationship with the Clintons and their Foundation.

Then there was the "New Square Four" who were convicted of bilking the U.S. government out of tens of Millions of dollars, and then Bill Clinton reduced their sentences prompting an investigation in which Comey cleared Clinton...

- "Federal prosecutors said yesterday that no criminal wrongdoing was committed when President Bill Clinton commuted the sentences of four swindlers from a Hasidic enclave in New York State that voted overwhelmingly for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton."

- "James B. Comey, the United States attorney for the Southern District of New York, said in a two-sentence statement that he had closed his investigation of clemency granted to the four men from New Square, N.Y."

- "Mr. Comey said he would continue the investigation into the more than 170 other pardons and clemencies Mr. Clinton granted on his last day of office, including the one that has drawn the most ire: a pardon for the financier Marc Rich, a commodities trader who fled the country in 1983."


So now Comey was still going to investigate the Pardons handed out by Clinton, including the one to Mark Rich... The same guy Comey successfully prosecuted 15 years before. Hmmm.

Surely he would have some opinionated feelings about that particular case.

Aaannnd, he did... here's piece by the NY Times about Comey's alleged "Tenacity"...

- Man in the News; Reputation for Tenacity; James Brien Comey

- "Mr. Comey also inherited the prosecution of Marc Rich, the fugitive billionaire who had refused to return to the country to face a 1983 indictment on tax evasion and other charges. Leonard Garment, a former lawyer for Mr. Rich, recalls trying to persuade Mr. Comey to have the charges reconsidered. But Mr. Comey refused, saying there would be no discussions as long as Mr. Rich remained a fugitive. ''We didn't get anywhere,'' Mr. Garment said.

- "Mr. Comey told The Richmond Times-Dispatch that he was stunned by President Clinton's pardon of Mr. Rich, which is now under investigation by Ms. White. ''It takes your breath away,'' he said. Mr. Clinton denies wrongdoing.



That was in December, 2001. So what ultimately happened?...

- "In 2002, Comey, then a federal prosecutor, took over an investigation into President Bill Clinton's 2001 pardon of financier Marc Rich, who had been indicted on a laundry list of charges before fleeing the country. The decision set off a political firestorm focused on accusations that Rich's ex-wife Denise made donations to the Democratic Party, the Clinton Library and Hillary Clinton's 2000 Senate campaign as part of a plan to get Rich off the hook. Comey ultimately decided not to pursue the case."


How about that, we allegedly have donations going to Clintons and we also see Comey deciding "not to pursue the case." ... Both seem to be a pattern.

And that comes after Comey had previously, in a different case, had come to the conclusion that Hillary was "mishandling documents and had ordered others to block investigators"... More patterns emerging ya think?

Also don't forget, Comey was involved in the case against one-time Clinton National Security advisor, Sandy Berger, who stole and destroyed documents from the National Archives that pertained to the Clinton Administration in the lead-up to 9/11... Before he was going to testify to the 9/11 Commission.

- "In the course of reviewing over several days thousands of pages of documents on behalf of the Clinton administration in connection with requests by the Sept. 11 commission, I inadvertently took a few documents from the Archives," Berger said."

- "As a general matter, we take issues of classified information very seriously," Comey said [...] It's against the law for anyone to intentionally mishandle classified documents either by taking it to give to somebody else or by mishandling it in a way that is outside the government regulations."



At any rate, it's interesting to see what Comey stated back in 2004, about classified information and "mishandling it in a way that is outside the government regulations." and that "we take issues of classified information very seriously".

He did get a guilty plea out of Berger, even though Berger avoided jail time. Rumors are that Comey played a role in limiting the damage to other Clinton insiders as well... but so far, on a preliminary search, only rumors have surfaced, nothing I would substantiate for sure. But the pattern is there.

It's also interesting to note that I didn't see the MSM, such as CNN or CBS reporting on all of Comey's(or AG Lynch's for that matter) links to the Clintons' over the years, while the Hillary email investigation was taking front and center stage over the last year... as Comey was allegedly "investigating" ... and Lynch was allegedly going to wait for recommendations before deciding on an indictment or not, as she had told the public(including Comey) only days after privately meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac in Phoenix.

Seems like over the years, Comey has been kind of acting the part of Wile E. Coyote to the Clintons' Road Runner... Beep-Beep! :tu:

I wouldn't hold your breath for anything to come from the supposed current joint FBI-DOJ investigation into the Clinton Foundation. As we can see, the heads of both departments have major conflicts of interests in such a case, but neither have recused themselves. And IMO, zero pressure from the MSM likely reinforces their decision not to do so.

I also, notice there's been about zero chatter from the MSM lately on the supposed IRS investigation into the Clinton Foundation. Doubt that will turn up anything as well.

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Does it ever stop?

What a joke this whole thing is becoming... a bad joke... on the American public.

Last week, it was discovered that about 15,000 more Clinton emails had been found. Some of them reportedly contain classified infromation on Benghazi. That should be criminal charges right there.

Now, we find out that Bill Clinton used tax payer money on the Clinton server and the Clinton Foundation...

- "Report: Bill Clinton used tax money on foundation, email server"

- "The transactions do not reveal illegal activity, it said, but raise new questions about the ties between the Clinton Foundation and Hillary Clinton’s State Department."

- "Politico’s analysis found that Bill Clinton drew more cash than any other former president, with representatives requesting allocations totaling $16 million."

- "Politico added scrutiny of GSA records and Clinton Foundation tax returns found that at least 13 of the 22 staffers paid by the GSA to work in Bill Clinton’s office also worked at the Clinton Foundation."


These thieving scumbags make me sick to my stomach. :wacko:

They just constantly feed, like a leech, off every single angle they can find and exploit it, for their own personal gain.

Even using tax payer money for the Clinton Foundation.

So now the American Public can be considered "doners" to the Clinton Foundation I suppose. :no:

Lock these criminals up... and ALL their accomplices.


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I'm going to reference this thread whenever some Hillbot tries to defend her online. It goes without saying, Lemieux - your labors of love are not always read but are always appreciated :rofl:

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Here's a great article from Sharyl Attkisson on Clinton's email scandal.

Attkisson, was the one who called out Clinton for her "landing-in-Bosnia-under-sniper-fire" repeated lies.

She lays out some pretty damming facts...

- "The FBI could not review all of the Hillary Clinton emails under investigation because:

- The Clintons’ Apple personal server used for Hillary Clinton work email could not be located for the FBI to examine.

- An Apple MacBook laptop and thumb drive that contained Hillary Clinton email archives were lost, and the FBI couldn’t examine them.

- 2 BlackBerry devices provided to FBI didn’t have their SIM or SD data cards.

- 13 Hillary Clinton personal mobile devices were lost, discarded or destroyed. Therefore, the FBI couldn’t examine them.

- Various server backups were deleted over time, so the FBI couldn’t examine them.

-After State Dept. notified Hillary Clinton her records would be sought by House Benghazi Committee, copies of her email on the laptops of her attorneys Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson were wiped with BleachBit, and the FBI couldn’t review them.

- After her emails were subpoenaed, Hillary Clinton’s email archive was also permanently deleted from her then-server “PRN” with BleachBit, and the FBI couldn’t review it.

- Also after the subpoena, backups of the PRN server were manually deleted."

Attkisson then goes on to list what the FBI DID manage to find...

"Even though the FBI did not have a complete record of Hillary Clinton’s emails on three unclassified personal servers, it found:

- 2,093 emails State Dept. currently classifies as Confidential or Secret. (State Dept. did not address what their classification was at the time they were sent.)

- 193 emails (81 separate email conversations) that were classified at the time they were sent, ranging from “Confidential” to “Top Secret/Special Access Program.”

- 68 of the 81 email chains remain classified today.

- 8 were Top Secret.

- 37 were Secret.

- 36 were Confidential.

- 7 were Special Access Program.

- 3 were Sensitive Compartmentalized Information.

- 36 were Not Releasing to Foreign Governments.

- 2 were Releasable Only to Five Allied Partners.

- 12 of the suspect email chains were not provided by Hillary’s attorneys. The FBI found them other ways.

- The email chains contained classified information from 5 other agencies: CIA, DOD, FBI, NGA and NSA."



Are you kidding me!!! C'mon! ... That's beyond ridiculous!!!

And that's just the opening of her article. It goes on to name a lot of the names of the players involved and gives you a timeline of the scandal as well.

And Bryan Nishimura was charged and sentenced? but Hillary gets a pass???

I just can't believe just HOW corrupt the whole system is. I mean, I know it's been rotting away at the core for decades, but the openess and brazenness about it now... Damn! ... and half the population either just doesn't care, or is just too stupid to care.


Comey and Lynch should be charged as well IMO for obstruction of justice... At the least.

Unbelievable! :wacko:


And just for another kick in the face... I missed this one completely... not only in my original timeline in the OP, but I just didn't even catch this one at all...

The day before Comey publicly cleared Clinton(Comey cleared her on July 5), as far as the FBI is concerned...

- "July 4, 2016: Hillary indicates that, as President, she would likely keep Lynch as attorney general."


So, the following day, July 5 Comey clears her, then on July 6, Lynch says, "No charges". ... No kidding! ... And all this only a few days after Bill Clinton meets with Lynch on the tarmac in Phoenix.

Like I said... unbelievable! :wacko:

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What we know is scary enough, but it's what we don't know that terrifies me.  With all the attempts to destroy evidence and thereby obstruct justice I am inclined to believe that much of it was successful.  That there are collusions and conspiracies and just simple crimes that will never be known.  It's not hard to infer that the system is manipulated by behind the scenes threats.  The trail of bodies associated with the Clintons is proof to all that the threats are real.  Could this be why the Republicans have done nothing with their Congressional majorities?  It's obvious that someone got to Comey. 

Trump may be green when it comes to politics but I believe his heart is in the right place.  He seems to be a quick study and prides himself on getting things done.  His chances of learning how to run a country are better than the chances of Hillary unlearning her evil ways.  If Secretary Clinton considers the law as just an inconvenience to her agenda, what would President Clinton be like?



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And now, we find out 'Bama used an pseudonym (fake name) when communicating with hillary's private email...Barry is on record as saying he found out about her private server from the media...even Huma was surprised ("how is this not classified?") that the potus would do such a thing. She asked for a copy of that mail, because it was so unusual.
Lyin', crooked left.

Politico- Gerstein/McCaskil




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As more information emerges, it's no wonder that Clinton believes that she did nothing wrong.  It seems as if the entire administration from the President on down was corrupt.  When you're part of a criminal enterprise that big even the worst of crimes begin to seem normal.  It's just the way things are done.  Anyone who had reservations about joining in or at least remaining quiet about the corruption they knew of ended up dead.  Without direct threats to everyone involved this still has a powerful coercive effect to keep others from breaking ranks.  We need Trump as President precisely because he's a rookie.  With no political experience he's more likely to go by the Official Handbook for Presidents and clean house.  It's also no wonder that so many on both sides are against him.  He's like the guy sent down from headquarters to clean up a non productive factory.  The party's over boys, heads will roll.

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Clinton’s email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House “lost” 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in America’s recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons

Like Clinton, the Bush White House used a private email server—its was owned by the Republican National Committee. And the Bush administration failed to store its emails, as required by law, and then refused to comply with a congressional subpoena seeking some of those emails. “It’s about as amazing a double standard as you can get,” says Eric Boehlert, who works with the pro-Clinton group Media Matters. “If you look at the Bush emails, he was a sitting president, and 95 percent of his chief advisers’ emails were on a private email system set up by the RNC. Imagine if for the last year and a half we had been talking about Hillary Clinton’s emails set up on a private DNC server?”




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so because someone else did it, its fine for her to do it?

was Bush under subpoena to present the emails when they were disappeared? Incidentally, getting a ******* isn't illegal, but it perjured Bill. 


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On 9/28/2016 at 5:54 PM, Lord Fedorable said:

so because someone else did it, its fine for her to do it?

was Bush under subpoena to present the emails when they were disappeared? Incidentally, getting a ******* isn't illegal, but it perjured Bill. 


Yeah, if Bush killed 20 children on the White House lawn, then it is peachy keen OK for Obama and Hillary to kill only 15, right? Stupid.....

I'm so tired of this excuse.

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On 9/28/2016 at 5:42 PM, ninjadude said:

Oh, was there legislation or department rules on using email at that point? NO? Well then aren't you comparing Apples and Oranges?

DoS Sec Colin Powell said that such rules/laws were only just being implemented when he was leaving office. And also DoS employees have been quoted as explaining this to Clinton, and she "poo poo"ed them and did what she liked. She even prosecuted and chased out of DoS several individuals who did exactly what she was doing, using public email, rather then government email.

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Ain't it funny how the Left still cannot get over Bush? lol

All you need to know about Clinton is this:

People Died! Clinton Lied!

Hillary could have literally been Ms. Universe if she had picked up the phone at 3am to call in assistance for Our Embassy under siege....but she didn't...and people died!  Then in front of their caskets Hillary lied to the American public about some obscure Youtube Video being responsible for the spontaneous uprising (after having told Chelsea AND the President of Egypt that it was a terrorist attack!

People Died...Hillary Lied!

Attacking one of our EMbassies IS attacking America....she is a LOSER!!

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