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3 minutes ago, alibongo said:

Not condescending, inclusive I think I'm being.

Let all the UK electorate come together as a sort of coalition.

They did. On the 23rd of June 2016. They chose to leave. You didn't choose anything lol

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5 minutes ago, alibongo said:

bee, I'm not trying to be condescending, but I'm guessing you and most leave voters are having second thoughts now?

Ignored because you are a big fat troll.  And that is credit because the alternative is that you actually believe the Shiite that's comes out of your mouth.

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4 minutes ago, alibongo said:

bee, I'm not trying to be condescending, but I'm guessing you and most leave voters are having second thoughts now?

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you have guessed wrong -

I think secretly you are pleased we are Leaving but for some reason have to keep up this charade -

I know I'm right so no need to deny it - - B)

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On 27/02/2017 at 0:48 PM, alibongo said:

That's what it'll be, unless I have some other suggestions.

I'm sure there will be a fair few.

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I do empathise.

I watched I Daniel Boone recently, so I know it is not all Farmers Markets and Artisan Craft Fairs, more Food Banks and Job Centres, but there are EU Grants available to rejuvenate run-down areas.

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2 hours ago, Grey Area said:

Ignored because you are a big fat troll.  And that is credit because the alternative is that you actually believe the Shiite that's comes out of your mouth.

Who told you I was fat?

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Do you live under a bridge and scare goats? 

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Lots of openings for doctors who speak English.

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16 minutes ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said:

Lots of openings for doctors who speak English.

There has been for years. Unfortunately, our own young people having difficulty with English, not to mention Biology and Physics, so they can't train as doctors. And who would like to be treated by some Numbskull who struggled to get  6 GCSEs at "Grade C or above"?

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Says the man who can't even spell 'Restaurant' or find the lights on a Ford. Another thing you've got in common with a lot of the youth. You didn't bother voting either lol. And its obvious to anyone that reads this thread that it's eating you up inside. 

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5 hours ago, alibongo said:

bee, I'm not trying to be condescending, but I'm guessing you and most leave voters are having second thoughts now?

Wrong again, we can't believe how well it's gone none of the lies we were told have come true, i was prepared for an emergency budget, 10 years to get a trade deal, the auto industry packing up the day after the vote and leaving etc, the difference between you and us is were not cowards.

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7 hours ago, hetrodoxly said:

Wrong again, we can't believe how well it's gone none of the lies we were told have come true, i was prepared for an emergency budget, 10 years to get a trade deal, the auto industry packing up the day after the vote and leaving etc, the difference between you and us is were not cowards.

So Tony Blair, George Osborne, Norman Lamont, Neil Kinnock, Ken Clarke, Christine Legarde, Mark Carney, me, 90% of the UKs MPs,etc,etc. are all cowards?

And bigoted Leave voters are, by their very vote, brave?

About sums it up.

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8 hours ago, likwidlite said:

Says the man who can't even spell 'Restaurant' or find the lights on a Ford. Another thing you've got in common with a lot of the youth. You didn't bother voting either lol. And its obvious to anyone that reads this thread that it's eating you up inside. 

Resteraunt  is notoriously difficult to spell by any standards.

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No it's easy to spell 'restaurant' even easier when using a computer/tablet/phone as they all have spell checker. So funny, thick racist bigot calls other people thick bigots because they didn't vote the way he didn't bother to. This is obviously a topic very important to you and you didn't bother getting off your thick star to vote. You realise how funny this is to everyone else and how much of a tool you look. 

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54 minutes ago, alibongo said:

So Tony Blair, George Osborne, Norman Lamont, Neil Kinnock, Ken Clarke, Christine Legarde, Mark Carney, me, 90% of the UKs MPs,etc,etc. are all cowards?

Oh dearie me, I can't believe you just quoted that list of luminaries to support your cause.

 

:facepalm: 

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And how you figure "90% of the UK's MPs", presumably meaning anti-Brexit... ? 

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following MPs have put on the record their intention to campaign to remain in the EU:

Peter Aldous - Waveney

Heidi Allen - Cambridgeshire South

Edward Argar- Charnwood

Victoria Atkins - Louth and Horncastle

Harriett Baldwin - Worcestershire West

Gavin Barwell - Croydon Central

Guto Bebb - Aberconwy

Richard Benyon - Newbury

Paul Beresford - Mole Valley

James Berry - Kingston and Surbiton

Jake Berry - Rossendale and Darwen

Nicola Blackwood - Oxford West and Abingdon

Nicholas Boles - Grantham and Stamford

Peter Bottomley - Worthing West

Karen Bradley - Staffordshire Moorlands

Steve Brine - Winchester

James Brokenshire - Old Bexley and Sidcup

Robert Buckland - Swindon South

Simon Burns - Chelmsford

Alistair Burt - Bedfordshire North East

Neil Carmichael - Stroud

James Cartlidge - Suffolk South

Alex Chalk - Cheltenham

Jo Churchill - Bury St Edmunds

Kenneth Clarke - Rushcliffe

Therese Coffey - Suffolk Coastal

Damian Collins - Folkestone and Hythe

Oliver Colvile - Plymouth Sutton and Devonport

Alberto Costa - South Leicestershire

Byron Davies - Gower

Caroline Dinenage - Gosport

Jonathan Djanogly - Huntingdon

Michelle Donelan - Chippenham

Oliver Dowden - Hertsmere

Jackie Doyle-Price - Thurrock

Flick Drummond - Portsmouth South

Alan Duncan - Rutland and Melton

Philip Dunne - Ludlow

Michael Ellis - Northampton North

Jane Ellison - Battersea

Tobias Ellwood - Bournemouth East

Charlie Elphicke - Dover

Graham Evans - Weaver Vale

David Evennett - Bexleyheath and Crayford

Mark Field - Cities of London and Westminster

Kevin Foster - Torbay

Lucy Frazer - Cambridgeshire South East

George Freeman - Norfolk Mid

Mike Freer - Finchley and Golders Green

Roger Gale - Thanet North

Edward Garnier - Harborough

Mark Garnier - Wyre Forest

David Gauke - South West Hertfordshire

Nick Gibb - Bognor Regis and Littlehampton

John Glen - Salisbury

Robert Goodwill - Scarborough and Whitby

Richard Graham - Gloucester

Helen Grant - Maidstone and The Weald

Damian Green - Ashford

Dominic Grieve - Beaconsfield

Andrew Griffiths - Burton

Ben Gummer - Ipswich

Sam Gyimah - Surrey East

Luke Hall - Thornbury and Yate

Stephen Hammond - Wimbledon

Richard Harrington - Watford

Simon Hart - Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire

Sir Alan Haselhurst - Saffron Walden

Oliver Heald - Hertfordshire NE

James Heappey - Wells

Peter Heaton-Jones - Devon North

Nick Herbert - Arundel and South Downs

Damian Hinds - Hampshire East

Simon Hoare - Dorset North

George Hollingbery - Meon Valley

Kevin Hollinrake - Thirsk and Malton

Kris Hopkins - Keighley

John Howell - Henley

Ben Howlett - Bath

Nigel Huddleston - Worcestershire Mid

Nick Hurd - Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner

Margot James - Stourbridge

Robert Jenrick - Newark

Joseph Johnson - Orpington

Andrew Jones - Harrogate and Knaresborough

Marcus Jones - Nuneaton

Seema Kennedy - South Ribble

Simon Kirby - Brighton Kemptown

Julian Knight - Solihull

Mark Lancaster - Milton Keynes North

Phillip Lee - Bracknell

Jeremy Lefroy - Stafford

Brandon Lewis - Great Yarmouth

David Lidington - Aylesbury

David Mackintosh - Northampton South

Alan Mak - Havant

Tania Mathias - Twickenham

Mark Menzies - Fylde

Johnny Mercer - Plymouth Moor View

Maria Miller- Basingstoke

Amanda Milling - Cannock Chase

Andrew Mitchell - Sutton Coldfield

David Morris - Morecombe and Lunesdale

James Morris - Halesowen and Rowley Regis

Wendy Morton - Aldridge-Brownhills

David Mowat - Warrington South

Bob Neill - Bromley and Chislehurst

Sarah Newton - Truro and Falmouth

Caroline Nokes - Romsey and Southampton North

Guy Opperman - Hexham

Neil Parish - Tiverton and Honiton

Mark Pawsey - Rugby

John Penrose - Weston-super-Mare

Claire Perry - Devizes

Chris Philp - Croydon South

Eric Pickles - Brentwood and Ongar

Dan Poulter- Suffolk Central

Rebecca Pow - Taunton Deane

Victoria Prentis - Banbury

Mark Prisk - Hertford and Stortford

Mark Pritchard - The Wrekin

Jeremy Quin - Horsham

Mary Robinson - Cheadle

David Rutley - Macclesfield

Antoinette Sandbach - Eddisbury

Andrew Selous - South West Bedfordshire

Grant Shapps - Welwyn Hatfield

Alok Sharma - Reading West

Alec Shelbrooke - Elmet and Rothwell

Keith Simpson - Broadland

Chris Skidmore - Kingswood

Chloe Smith - Norwich North

Julian Smith - Skipton and Ripon

Nicholas Soames - Mid-Sussex

Amanda Solloway - Derby North

Caroline Spelman - Meriden

Mark Spencer - Sherwood

John Stevenson - Carlisle

Rory Stewart -Penrith and The Border

Gary Streeter - Devon South West

Mel Stride - Devon Central

Graham Stuart - Beverley and Holderness

Hugo Swire - East Devon

Maggie Throup - Erewash

Edward Timpson - Crewe and Nantwich

Kelly Tolhurst - Rochester and Strood

David Tredinnick - Bosworth

Tom Tugendhat - Tonbridge and Malling

Andrew Tyrie - Chichester

Ed Vaizey - Wantage

Shailesh Vara - North West Cambridgeshire

Robin Walker - Worcester

Ben Wallace - Wyre and Preston North

Matt Warman - Boston and Skegness

Angela Watkinson - Hornchurch and Upminster

Helen Whately - Faversham and Mid Kent

Chris White - Warwick and Leamington

Craig Whittaker - Calder Valley

Craig Williams - Cardiff North

Gavin Williamson - Staffordshire South

Rob Wilson - Reading East

Dr Sarah Wollaston - Totnes

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The leave champions are: Frog-faced Farage, Boris Selfish Johnson and Michael Self-seeking Gove.

(Theresa May swapped sides when the result was announced).

And we trust the future of the UK to these?

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Little bit on Gove's character:

Expenses claims[edit]

Over a five-month period between December 2005 and April 2006, Michael Gove claimed more than £7,000 on a house bought with his wife Sarah Vine, a journalist, in 2002. Around a third of the money was spent at OKA, an upmarket interior design company established by Viscountess Astor, PM David Cameron’s mother-in-law.[108] Shortly afterwards he reportedly 'flipped' his designated second home, a property for which he claimed around £13,000 to cover stamp duty.[109] Gove also claimed for a cot mattress, despite children's items being banned under updated Commons Rules. Gove said he would repay the claim for the cot mattress, but maintained that his other claims were "below the acceptable threshold costs for furniture" and that moving house was necessary "to effectively discharge my parliamentary duties".[109] While he was moving between homes, on one occasion he stayed at the Pennyhill Park Hotel and Spa following a constituency engagement, charging the taxpayer more than £500 per night's stay.[109]

Gove's second home was not in his constituency, but in Elstead, in the South West Surrey constituency. Gove has sold the house and now commutes to his constituency.[110]

Freedom of Information and email[edit]

Gove has been the subject of repeated criticism for alleged attempts to avoid the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act. The criticism surrounds Gove's use of various private email accounts to send emails that allegedly relate to his departmental responsibilities. The allegations suggest that Gove and his advisers believed they could avoid their correspondence being subject to Freedom of Information requests, as they believed that their private email accounts were not subject to the Freedom of Information Act. In September 2011, the Financial Times reported that Gove had used an undisclosed private email account – called "Mrs Blurt" – to discuss government business with advisers.[111][112] In March 2012 the Information Commissioner ruled that because emails the Financial Times had requested contained public information they could be the subject of a Freedom of Information request and ordered the information requested by the paper to be disclosed.[113][114] Gove was also advised to cease the practice of using private email accounts to conduct government business. Gove disputed the Information Commissioner's ruling and proceeded to tribunal, costing taxpayers £12,540 in fees for legal advice,[115] but the appeal was withdrawn.[116]

It was also alleged that Gove and his advisors had destroyed email correspondence in order to avoid Freedom of Information requests. The allegation was denied by Gove's department who stated that deleting email was simply part of good computer housekeeping.[117]

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Baron von, Essen, bee, likwidlite ( I really like that name, btw), et al, you have to admit the facts all support my case.

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8 minutes ago, alibongo said:

following MPs have put on the record their intention to campaign to remain in the EU:

 

 Are you going to go onto your absurd argument once again that MPs should over rule the wishes of the electorate because they have superior knowledge? You know as well as I do those with any ambition all think whatever the Party instructs them to. Why, in any case, are you so keen to point out how we should respect the wishes and the knowledge of our "Elected Representatives", since we know that you're not concerned in the slightest about democracy , and you'd be quite happy to be ruled by dictat from those who have superior knowledge (Cameron, Blair, Osborne. splutter, I can't go on for laughing ... )

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14 minutes ago, alibongo said:

Tom Tugendhat - Tonbridge and Malling

Perhaps the best name, though, even if he may be a Party drone.

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15 minutes ago, alibongo said:

Caroline Dinenage - Gosport

Any relation to Fred Dinenage, the legendary Meridian TV presenter? 

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Manfred von Driedecker- spotting funny names does not make Brexit less serious or disastrous.

Talking about names, I have just realise the documentary I watched about the North was called 'I, Daniel Blake', not 'I, Daniel Boone' (he was another guy).

And the people you splutter when mentioning are worthy public figures, who have done far more for their country than, for example, Frog-face, who thinks he deserves a Knighthood for attempting to bring the UK to its knees.

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