spud the mackem Posted March 30, 2017 #2651 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Will the Angel(a) of death and also the hater of England (the Frog leader), be re-elected in a few months as this could have a Huge impact on how they are planning to punish us , pull up the drawbridge and lower the portcullis and be prepared to repel invaders..NOBODY LOVES ....WE DON'T CARE. P.S you still cannot buy a litre of beer in an English pub/bar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varinia Posted March 30, 2017 #2652 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If you voted to LEAVE the EU in last year’s referendum, please give up 2 minutes of your time to complete a very short survey conducted by the University of Bedfordshire (demographics and two questions only) on the effect of the Greek crisis on your decision to vote leave. If you can, please also share with friends and family where relevant as we're looking for as large a sample as possible. Thank you very much in advance https://bedshealthsciences.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_ebT7Lg8u33L3ctn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted March 31, 2017 #2653 Share Posted March 31, 2017 . Pat Condell let's 'em have it with both barrels...... Another of his clear concise monologues .... and the comments on the YouTube site are worth a look -- video description -- Hello Angry Losers Published on Mar 31, 2017 A Word To The Patronising Minority. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted April 3, 2017 #2654 Share Posted April 3, 2017 On 29/03/2017 at 8:40 PM, Manfred von Dreidecker said: Is this an organisation. depending on threats and bullying to keep it together, that anyone would want to be a part of? Speak for yourself! I am Mainland European 'til the day I die! I am happy to wear strings of onions around my neck, drive along motorways at 150mph (on the wrong side of the road), smoke cannabis, leave my shoes outside the house, have sex in the sauna, become a plumber, and speak with exaggerated hand gestures. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted April 3, 2017 #2655 Share Posted April 3, 2017 So now Britain faces the very situation it has historically dreaded and striven to avoid: alone and having to treat with a united continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted April 3, 2017 #2656 Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: So now Britain faces the very situation it has historically dreaded and striven to avoid: alone and having to treat with a united continent. Don't think of it as leaving Europe.......think of it as joining the rest of the world. (a united continent you say!!! Ever wondered why all the other governments in Europe haven't let their people have a referendum?) Edited April 3, 2017 by itsnotoutthere 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted April 3, 2017 #2657 Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 minute ago, itsnotoutthere said: Don't think of it as leaving Europe.......think of it as joining the rest of the world. (a united continent you say!!!) Yes, but you'll still be dealing with Brussels, but as outsiders, like the rest of the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted April 3, 2017 #2658 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, Hammerclaw said: Yes, but you'll still be dealing with Brussels, but as outsiders, like the rest of the world. Exactly, 'like the rest of the world' 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted April 3, 2017 #2659 Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said: Yes, but you'll still be dealing with Brussels, but as outsiders, like the rest of the world. Yep, that's the plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted April 3, 2017 #2660 Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said: So now Britain faces the very situation it has historically dreaded and striven to avoid: alone and having to treat with a united continent. But it isn't united. In most member states the majority of the people want nothing to do with the EU. They are being held hostage by politicians that refuse to represent what their peoples actually want. The pro-immigrant pro-EU variety who think they know best. And who think the majority of people have a problem for not agreeing with them or the hippy, tree hugging, liberal-socialist dystopia they are desperate to create. Whether it be next year, a decade, or even in 50 years time its all going to come crumbling down. Edited April 3, 2017 by RabidMongoose 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted April 3, 2017 #2661 Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) On 3/31/2017 at 6:57 PM, bee said: . Pat Condell let's 'em have it with both barrels...... Another of his clear concise monologues .... and the comments on the YouTube site are worth a look -- video description -- Hello Angry Losers Published on Mar 31, 2017 A Word To The Patronising Minority. Nailed it. Edited April 3, 2017 by itsnotoutthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Space Commander Travis Posted April 3, 2017 #2663 Share Posted April 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Hammerclaw said: So now Britain faces the very situation it has historically dreaded and striven to avoid: alone and having to treat with a united continent. Glad to see you're taking over from the now sadly departed Alibongo with the smug predictions of doom. Unified continent? Are you having a laugh? Are you even aware of the political position in Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted April 3, 2017 #2664 Share Posted April 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Hammerclaw said: Yes, but you'll still be dealing with Brussels, but as outsiders, like the rest of the world. The sooner the rest of the world gets plans in place to trade with the individual countries individually the wiser they'd be, since I don't think they could rely on the EU remaining in being as a cohesive whole for too much longer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted April 3, 2017 #2665 Share Posted April 3, 2017 2 hours ago, RabidMongoose said: But it isn't united. In most member states the majority of the people want nothing to do with the EU. They are being held hostage by politicians that refuse to represent what their peoples actually want. The pro-immigrant pro-EU variety who think they know best. And who think the majority of people have a problem for not agreeing with them or the hippy, tree hugging, liberal-socialist dystopia they are desperate to create. Whether it be next year, a decade, or even in 50 years time its all going to come crumbling down. That's what was predicted for the United States after independence. Instead, it reinvented itself and subsequently, the ties that bind became so strong they persevered through a major civil war. The same may happen on the continent, or worse. Fascism might once again rear it's xenophobic head and bind the states together with the peace of the gun. You have considered only one possible future. You are also complacent that your regression into isolationism is permanent. The coming of age of the next generation of voters may tip the scales against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted April 3, 2017 #2666 Share Posted April 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: That's what was predicted for the United States after independence. Instead, it reinvented itself and subsequently, the ties that bind became so strong they persevered through a major civil war. The same may happen on the continent, or worse. Fascism might once again rear it's xenophobic head and bind the states together with the peace of the gun. You have considered only one possible future. You are also complacent that your regression into isolationism is permanent. The coming of age of the next generation of voters may tip the scales against you. "regression into isolationism"? So the countries that form the EU are the entire world and, for example, the USA, Canada, Russia, India, China, Japan etc are insignificant? And once again, as people have tried to explain, the Brits, stupid and poorly educated as they are, do want to trade with France and Germany etc, it's the layer of bureaucracy that currently (believes that it) overrrules them that they'd rather get away from. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted April 3, 2017 #2667 Share Posted April 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said: "regression into isolationism"? So the countries that form the EU are the entire world and, for example, the USA, Canada, Russia, India, China, Japan etc are insignificant? And once again, as people have tried to explain, the Brits, stupid and poorly educated as they are, do want to trade with France and Germany etc, it's the layer of bureaucracy that currently (believes that it) overrrules them that they'd rather get away from. So, terrified of the present you try to flee to your past to avoid the future, a past forever out of reach, with the future bearing down on you, never-the-less. My prediction is this knee-jerk spasm of nostalgia you presently indulge will pass as it's proponents age and die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted April 3, 2017 #2668 Share Posted April 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: That's what was predicted for the United States after independence. Instead, it reinvented itself and subsequently, the ties that bind became so strong they persevered through a major civil war. The same may happen on the continent, or worse. Fascism might once again rear it's xenophobic head and bind the states together with the peace of the gun. You have considered only one possible future. You are also complacent that your regression into isolationism is permanent. The coming of age of the next generation of voters may tip the scales against you. Somewhat over the top don't you think? All we want to do is leave a small cabal of countries that are on course to turn europe into a federal superstate. If that's what they want to do, fine. But please get off our backs if we don't want that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted April 3, 2017 #2669 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, Hammerclaw said: So, terrified of the present you try to flee to your past to avoid the future, a past forever out of reach, with the future bearing down on you, never-the-less. My prediction is this knee-jerk spasm of nostalgia you presently indulge will pass as it's proponents age and die. No, looking to the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted April 3, 2017 #2670 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, itsnotoutthere said: No, looking to the future. Hardly; from your pervious post, apparently dreading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted April 3, 2017 #2671 Share Posted April 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Hardly; from your pervious post, apparently dreading it. Dreading what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted April 3, 2017 #2672 Share Posted April 3, 2017 On 3/31/2017 at 6:57 PM, bee said: . Pat Condell let's 'em have it with both barrels...... Another of his clear concise monologues .... and the comments on the YouTube site are worth a look -- video description -- Hello Angry Losers Published on Mar 31, 2017 A Word To The Patronising Minority. Watch & listen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted April 3, 2017 #2673 Share Posted April 3, 2017 42 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: That's what was predicted for the United States after independence. Instead, it reinvented itself and subsequently, the ties that bind became so strong they persevered through a major civil war. The same may happen on the continent, or worse. Fascism might once again rear it's xenophobic head and bind the states together with the peace of the gun. You have considered only one possible future. You are also complacent that your regression into isolationism is permanent. The coming of age of the next generation of voters may tip the scales against you. Bolded part: It is actually the EU that is Isolationist with its protectionist policies hampering the flow of goods with those states not in their club. It is the UK that is outward looking and anti-isolationist with its avowed aim of trading with the rest of the globe once free from EU constraints. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted April 3, 2017 #2674 Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said: Somewhat over the top don't you think? As if he could ever be accused of that... 30 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: So, terrified of the present you try to flee to your past to avoid the future, a past forever out of reach, with the future bearing down on you, never-the-less. My prediction is this knee-jerk spasm of nostalgia you presently indulge Edited April 3, 2017 by Manfred von Dreidecker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted April 3, 2017 #2675 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Anyway, he seems to be getting confused; why is it a knee-jerk spasm of nostalgia to consider that there might be a future in trading with up-and-coming nations such as China and India? Oh, I know, I expect he thinks that Brits want to recolonize India, and send a gunboat to pacify the Chinese again, like last time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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