Brexit

[itsnotoutthere]

Interesting news item :-

Jean-Claude Juncker blocked EU curbs on tax avoidance, cables show :- The president of the European commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, spent years in his previous role as Luxembourg’s prime minister secretly blocking EU efforts to tackle tax avoidance by multinational corporations, leaked documents reveal. Efforts by a majority of member states to curb aggressive tax planning and to rein in predatory tax policies were regularly delayed, diluted or derailed by the actions of a few of the EU’s smallest members, frequently led by Luxembourg.

A spokesperson for Luxembourg’s finance ministry refused to comment on the positions previous governments had taken in private EU discussions. “We have no knowledge of the communications you claim to have, and whether they are genuine, and therefore cannot comment on them,” he said.

The Guardian spoke to another former member of the code of conduct committee, who did not want to be named but corroborated claims in the leaked cables that Luxembourg was regularly among those looking to frustrate EU efforts to tackle tax avoidance.

 

link :- https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/01/jean-claude-juncker-blocked-eu-curbs-on-tax-avoidance-cables-show

 

Edited January 4, 2017 by itsnotoutthere

[Space Commander Travis]

On 1/3/2017 at 2:08 AM, alibongo said:

I take issue with this.

No one predicted the backlash against the establishment, here or abroad.

You'd have had to have been very stupid or stuck in a Guardian bubble of complacency not to sense that there might be a backlash against the Establishment.

So no wonder you were taken by surprise by it. 

[alibongo]

The UK has had enough of "so-called" experts: if we want economic advice we will rely on someone who has had a bit of experience serving in Poundland, if we want advice on foreign relations we will rely on someone who has holidayed in Spain recently. We Brits don't need knowledge we just need pluck:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-news-eu-ambassador-resignation-sir-ivan-rogers-michael-gove-cull-of-experts-britain-uk-a7508731.html

[alibongo]

I'm being ironic, by the way.

[Space Commander Travis]

6 hours ago, alibongo said:

The UK has had enough of "so-called" experts: if we want economic advice we will rely on someone who has had a bit of experience serving in Poundland, if we want advice on foreign relations we will rely on someone who has holidayed in Spain recently. We Brits don't need knowledge we just need pluck:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-news-eu-ambassador-resignation-sir-ivan-rogers-michael-gove-cull-of-experts-britain-uk-a7508731.html

what knowledge? How many times do people have to try to explain before your brain is capable of understanding, the "experts" are not speaking the truth about what will without question happen, they don't know. They can just make "predictions" which simply means making up some completely arbitrary figure "£3.2 billion! 556.3 million! Everyone will be £320 a week worse off!" and the Gaurdina and the BBC repeat it as fact, that somehow these "experts" know for a fact that by 2030, the economy will be £234 billion worse off. 

[itsnotoutthere]

8 hours ago, alibongo said:

I'm being ironic, by the way.

That's sarcasm, not irony. Some people tend to get the two mixed up.

[likwidlite]

Ah ha ha ha, straight from the INDEPENDENT!!! Ali, Why aren't you posting this??? You must be choking.

The economic consensus was horribly wrong and here are the real reasons Brexit is SUCCEEDING 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/economic-consensus-brexit-succeeding-ashoka-mody-imf-a7509711.html

Sorry, did I mention, Ah ha ha ha ha ha!!! The "Brexit is SUCCEEDING" Headling from the INDEPENDENT!!!

 

[likwidlite]

Not wanting to rub it in. 

Brexit latest: Fastest services growth in seventeen months in December

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/fastest-services-growth-in-seventeen-months-in-december-a7510536.html

UK services sector grows at fastest pace for more than a year

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/05/uk-services-sector-grows-fastest-pace

Actually yes I do want to rub it in. 

Edited January 5, 2017 by likwidlite

[Habitat]

I'd have thought you Poms would be scraping by  with grace and favour hand-outs by now, so badly has Mr Bongo got into my head on this crisis.

[hetrodoxly]

13 hours ago, alibongo said:

I'm being ironic, by the way.

How ironic, are you from up north?

[stevewinn]

11 hours ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said: what knowledge? How many times do people have to try to explain before your brain is capable of understanding, the "experts" are not speaking the truth about what will without question happen, they don't know. They can just make "predictions" which simply means making up some completely arbitrary figure "£3.2 billion! 556.3 million! Everyone will be £320 a week worse off!" and the Gaurdina and the BBC repeat it as fact, that somehow these "experts" know for a fact that by 2030, the economy will be £234 billion worse off.  If we was to rewind the clock to a point in history - The majority of the "experts" of the day would be telling us the world is flat, the Guardian and BBC would report this as undeniable fact. Those who opposed the "experts" knowledge of a flat earth would be jailed or burnt at the stake - by those same experts with the backing of both the state and religious institutions. Its much the same today for Alibongo, The pro-EU "experts" opinions should be accepted without question and the Brexiteers should be jailed or burnt at the stake. Just as in the days of flat earthers - Like Giordano Bruno and many others who today are held up as myrtyr of Science for holding a different view to the "experts" The posts of Alibongo especially the condescending post about the lad who works at pound land, So what if someone works at pound land when did working and being in employment become contemptuous. Alibongo, You have done nothing to further the Remains' cause; Im even confident enough to say - If Br Cornelius and Questionmark where around they'd distances themselves from your comments and opinions, and those two posters where staunch EU supporters, such is the utter crap you post. it actually makes one appreciate the contributions both Br Cornelius and Questionmark made over the years. Because your mutterings have long since been regarded as worthwhile. Alibongo you Sir, are simply a buffoon.

Edited January 5, 2017 by stevewinn

[alibongo]

16 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said:

That's sarcasm, not irony. Some people tend to get the two mixed up.

Yes I do get  them mixed up on something as serious and divisive as this.

The working classes have allowed themselves to become fired up over an issue decided by public schoolboys Farage and Johnson for their own personal gain, accepting a drop in living standards that wasn't explained to them, and for future policies still not revealed.

 

[Habitat]

Just now, alibongo said:

Yes I do get  them mixed up on something as serious and divisive as this.

The working classes have allowed themselves to become fired up over an issue decided by public schoolboys Farage and Johnson for their own personal gain, accepting a drop in living standards that wasn't explained to them, and for future policies still not revealed.

 

That's democracy. Do you have an alternative in mind ?

[alibongo]

Fools.

[alibongo]

Just now, Habitat said:

That's democracy. Do you have an alternative in mind ?

Yes.

 

[Habitat]

Just now, alibongo said:

Yes.

 

Can you condense your alternative proposal any more ?

[alibongo]

I feel people shouldn't have had a vote on Brexit unless they had a real stake in the UK.

Like owning property, houses, business, etc.I also believe renting is wrong, people should be allowed to buy their home at a cost price.

The referendum was let loose on everyone, even the unemployed, northerners, and homeless-who have no incentive to improve the standard of living in the UK.

A decent government would make home ownership a possibility to every citizen, we are a rich country and could afford this.

 

Edited January 6, 2017 by alibongo

[Michelle]

[alibongo]

1 minute ago, Michelle said:

 

1 minute ago, Michelle said:

I agree

[Habitat]

I interpret that emoticon to indicate your post shows confusion, Mr Bongo. You appear to say that everyone deserves a home, but if they don't have one, they don't deserve a vote. 

[Space Commander Travis]

 

5 hours ago, alibongo said:

The referendum was let loose on everyone, even the unemployed, northerners, and homeless-who have no incentive to improve the standard of living in the UK.

If anyone took you seriously any more they might remark that you're confusing yourself again. So unemployed and homeless people have no incentive to improve the standard of living? You realise what a stupid thing to say that is?

[likwidlite]

Ali why you ignore my posts. The text was big and easy to read and they were from your favourite news outlets. 

[itsnotoutthere]

On 1/5/2017 at 1:13 AM, alibongo said:

I'm being ironic, by the way.

That's sarcasm, not irony. Some people tend to get the two mixed up.

[itsnotoutthere]

"The referendum was let loose on everyone"

And everyone had a vote.

And all those fools that didn't bother to vote are making the most noise. ....empty vessels..etc.

Edited January 6, 2017 by itsnotoutthere

[Habitat]

In all seriousness, I'm thinking alibongo isn't 100% well at the moment, that being the case worrying about brexit is something he ought not load himself up with.