XenoFish Posted September 16, 2016 #1 Share Posted September 16, 2016 This is something that has just popped into my mind because of another thread. Would you sell your soul to god? What would you sacrifice (on a personal level) to show devotion? Would the sell be full or temporary? Would you take a vow to god for a specific outcome? Answer freely as I am curious. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted September 16, 2016 #2 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Is there asphalt involved here ? need to know about the obstacles first. Personally, I would rather sell my soul on ebay. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 16, 2016 Author #3 Share Posted September 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, freetoroam said: Is there asphalt involved here ? need to know about the obstacles first. Personally, I would rather sell my soul on ebay. Well I have to ask because I can't sell my soul, being a ginger and all. Though these are just random curious questions as this sections gotten a tad stale as is. Why not toss the believers and nons a curve ball. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_ Posted September 16, 2016 #4 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I wouldn't sell my soul to him but I do believe in him. He's real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted September 16, 2016 #5 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: I can't sell my soul, being a ginger and all. Jeeze, does their god have a "look" code? If god made man, then why would he want to buy souls? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 16, 2016 Author #6 Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jesus_ said: I wouldn't sell my soul to him but I do believe in him. He's real But didn't you do that. I mean accepting Jesus and being baptized is basically a contract between you and god. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 16, 2016 Author #7 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, freetoroam said: Jeeze, does their god have a "look" code? If god made man, then why would he want to buy souls? The god above the current god created gingers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaturtlehorsesnake Posted September 16, 2016 #8 Share Posted September 16, 2016 straight answer: i don't think souls exist. rather difficult to sell something like that. have you ever read the will eisner comic "a contract with god"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 16, 2016 Author #9 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Well this isn't fun. I thought I'd at least get some interesting answers, given the hypothetical situation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted September 16, 2016 #10 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jesus_ said: I wouldn't sell my soul to him but I do believe in him. He's real Real as in ones mind and heart......which really comes under ones beliefs and can not be confused with what is real in terms of physical and actual and proven. Edited September 16, 2016 by freetoroam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted September 16, 2016 #11 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, XenoFish said: The god above the current god created gingers. So did the god above the current god create the current god and where is the god above the current god now? that hurt! Edited September 16, 2016 by freetoroam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 16, 2016 Author #12 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, freetoroam said: So did the god above the current god create the current god and where is the god above the current god now? The answer to that is potato. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 16, 2016 Author #13 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Really think about it. When someone takes up a deity based religion there are often rituals used to pledge loyalty right? So if we really think about it all Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc have sold their soul/consciousness to an entity. But I'm curious to the motivation behind the act. I see the skeptics are here, so where are the believers. Only one so far. Come on, deep thoughts here people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted September 16, 2016 #14 Share Posted September 16, 2016 56 minutes ago, XenoFish said: This is something that has just popped into my mind because of another thread. Would you sell your soul to god? What would you sacrifice (on a personal level) to show devotion? Would the sell be full or temporary? Would you take a vow to god for a specific outcome? Answer freely as I am curious. But doesn't (g)God own the soul anyway? I mean, by default if you accept god's word, isn't that a contract? Maybe not as binding as one with the devil, but a contract nonetheless? I was raised baptist, went to church every single Sunday (ugh) and none of it stuck...I still don't quite have the grasp of the why's and why not's of religious fervor and souls and going to hell if you aren't good in the name of god and if you are you get into that exclusive members-only club with the nice golf course all that gobbledygook. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 16, 2016 Author #15 Share Posted September 16, 2016 That's where the curious aspect of it is. People make claim all the time here of having god on there side. So what if this is perhaps the results of them selling their soul. And what if 'god' isn't god at all. What if the god of each religion is just demon or whatever. Call this a thought experiment if you'd like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaturtlehorsesnake Posted September 16, 2016 #16 Share Posted September 16, 2016 more extreme calvinist belief states that god has already chosen the saved and unsaved. there is no choice to be made. an omnipotent, omninpresent being would already know and have chosen for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted September 16, 2016 #17 Share Posted September 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, XenoFish said: That's where the curious aspect of it is. People make claim all the time here of having god on there side. So what if this is perhaps the results of them selling their soul. And what if 'god' isn't god at all. What if the god of each religion is just demon or whatever. Call this a thought experiment if you'd like. Well, everyone's god is another person's devil/demon/fiend/democrat/whatever. Odin, Thor, Freya and the rest of their pantheon are not demons, however. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted September 16, 2016 #18 Share Posted September 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, seaturtlehorsesnake said: more extreme calvinist belief states that god has already chosen the saved and unsaved. there is no choice to be made. an omnipotent, omninpresent being would already know and have chosen for you. That's a damn good point. If a god has such power, why bother with the dog and pony show? Does he get a kick out of people working their ass off to get in his good favor? I guess he does. Or maybe if the untouchables think they have a chance, the world should be a much better place by their actions. But he'd already know that and know the outcome, so even his non-efforts are a waste of time. He's just doing ir for ****s and giggles...or, I think you just proved that god doesn't exist. Don't get killed at the next zebra crossing for your revelation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted September 16, 2016 #19 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, XenoFish said: This is something that has just popped into my mind because of another thread. Would you sell your soul to god? What would you sacrifice (on a personal level) to show devotion? Would the sell be full or temporary? Would you take a vow to god for a specific outcome? Answer freely as I am curious. No Way! I'm a follower of God, but not a slave. I think the idea of selling yourself is pretty loathsome. I wonder what God would do with all the souls sold to Him? And what would I get in exchange that isn't offered for free by the Salvation of Jesus Christ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 16, 2016 Author #20 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DieChecker said: And what would I get in exchange that isn't offered for free by the Salvation of Jesus Christ? But by accepting that, isn't that basically willful servitude? (Don't misunderstand the point of this thread, I'm coming at this from a non-antagonistic point of view.) Edited September 16, 2016 by XenoFish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted September 16, 2016 #21 Share Posted September 16, 2016 On a hot summer night....would you offer your throat to the wolf with red roses? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiXilver Posted September 16, 2016 #22 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Lots of people sacrifice the tip of their son's genitals... I've always thought that sort of thing should be left up to the individual myself... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted September 16, 2016 #23 Share Posted September 16, 2016 4 hours ago, freetoroam said: Is there asphalt involved here ? need to know about the obstacles first. Personally, I would rather sell my soul on ebay. How much ? ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted September 16, 2016 #24 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, quiXilver said: Lots of people sacrifice the tip of their son's genitals... I've always thought that sort of thing should be left up to the individual myself... I don't think too many would opt for it at the age of legal responsibility, nor should they. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted September 16, 2016 #25 Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 hours ago, XenoFish said: But by accepting that, isn't that basically willful servitude? (Don't misunderstand the point of this thread, I'm coming at this from a non-antagonistic point of view.) Yes, it is willful servitude, but if you keep your soul, you're free to leave whenever you want. It is the difference between showing up to work each day and being forced to work each day. If you are not in a contract, you can leave your job whenever you want, if you are under contract, you are literally forced to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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