If Clinton Does Win

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22 hours ago, third_eye said:

In the end allow common sense to prevail ...

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I agree completely.  The problem is that many on the political Left in the US seem today to have an entirely different definition for common sense.  I realize I'm far from mainstream today but when I was growing up a kid was expected to deal with bullying by learning to toughen up and respect THEMSELVES...not cry and rage and demand that others "like them".  Adults acted like adults.  To give an example from today's news - Trump remarked that if he lost an election because he said some hurtful, disgusting (locker room banter) while the world is in total chaos and in desperate need of leadership then it was going to be sad in the extreme that such a chance of help was missed.  When you consider it, he's correct.  People are direly focused on the most insignificant things today.  It reminds me of the appalling hypocrisy of the US in WWII when they blew a gasket over George S Patton slapping a sniveling coward in Germany at the height of the bloodiest conflict in history.

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21 hours ago, hellwyr said:

If other country, you mean Europe?

That's a continent. Sue your geography teacher.

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14 hours ago, Lord Fedorable said:

The 101 in Psyche's name isn't just a name, it's his age.

 tread lightly old boy.... mess with the bull, you get the horns!

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21 hours ago, Varelse said:

Clinton's not doing much at all with what will likely be a GOP congress and senate. But 80% of what she says she'll do is BS and the other 20% has to go through congress so how can one even speculate?

will say I wouldn't want to be Trump about this time a year from now. She'll make sure he has Govt regulators and IRS agents microscoping his rectum while she's in office.    

That's no guarantee, though. Obama faced no real resistance from the GOP. Our Congress is a cabal bird with a "left wing" and a "right wing". It's a caged bird, and Polly gets its cracker from power brokers.

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21 hours ago, ChrLzs said:

I hope someone remembers to bump this thread back up in, say twelve months time.  Then all the claims about the actions that will be taken can be verified.  Hope it all works out for you all, and try not to hurt too many people, okay?  maybe it's just peace lovin' ole me, but some of the comments / threats seem, oh.. just a tad over the top..

 

And perhaps, reflect a little about how the hell you guys managed to get into a situation where those two were the only 'candidates'.  Small problem with your system, do ya think?

I agree with your main point, but your post is hyperbolic and hysterical. Most of the posts, before your post, aren't as you describe them to be. Only one comes close to even *hinting* at future violence. You must work for the MSM.

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20 hours ago, Habitat said:

Pauline is a symptom of the problem, that being that people have had a gut-full of the offerings of the traditional parties and their candidates.

Pauline? I'd be happy with either Rand or Ron right now. Snoopy is right. We need a *real* movement to strengthen alternative political parties.

[docyabut2]

When it comes down to it I don`nt Hillary or the dem`s  really understands the threats to our country just like in Benghazi., and it will all be to late .,if she wins

Edited October 12, 2016 by docyabut2

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4 minutes ago, Paranormal Panther said:

I agree with your main point, but your post is hyperbolic and hysterical. Most of the posts, before your post, aren't as you describe them to be. Only one comes close to even *hinting* at future violence. You must work for the MSM.

 

For some people, it is not permissible to mention the possibility of violence even when it is a logical conclusion, given the arc of the events that are unfolding.  It's also another example of holding a person responsible for events when all they've done is predict them.  I guess some are just too gentle to live outside the hothouse.  

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18 hours ago, Big Jim said:

If Clinton does win...it will be a disaster.  Most likely we will end up with President Kaine before her term is up.  Out of all the original people who could have been President he seems to be the biggest nut case and the one least likely to win on his own.  They say we get the leaders we deserve, well if we don't pick the best of the two it will be our reward to end up with the worst of the bunch.

Can we recover from the disaster if she's selected? That last word isn't a typo, by the way. The insiders and the media already crowned their queen when she faced the socialist. Kaine, the court jester, might even do less damage if she leaves her throne.

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12 minutes ago, Paranormal Panther said:

That's no guarantee, though. Obama faced no real resistance from the GOP. Our Congress is a cabal bird with a "left wing" and a "right wing". It's a caged bird, and Polly gets its cracker from power brokers.

 

His presidency has had one positive effect, in my opinion.  He has caused those in DC on the so-called Right to be unmasked as the rank cowards and hypocrites they are.  Time and again they have refused to challenge Obama or even force him to veto legislation they might have passed to state their principles.  They are totally gutless and selfish.

[docyabut2]

You know  Trump says it like it is, even though he is a critical   person, 

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16 hours ago, ChrLzs said:

Wow.... and more wows...  After reading more about the need for violence, and generalisations about all us apathetics in other countries based on absolutely nothing (a bit ironic really) I think I can see where the problem is.. and with that I shall depart and put someone on ignore.

 

Don't run. Don't hide. Show genuine and specific examples that back your claim. Besides And Then's posts, what posts even mention that violence *may* happen?

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15 hours ago, docyabut2 said:

 

If Clinton does win , taxes  will go high sky to pay for our country trillion dollar debt. Our guns will be taken away. More down sizing  of our military and equipment  so we can`nt defend our  country any more. Let all the terrorists and criminals come in, with free trade and open borders. Less policing and  no more law and order. and all she can say is ,lets just come together and be nice to one another ! 

 

I might as well get a ticket to Mars   

You'll probably feel like you live on Mars if she wins. I just heard that her staff insulted Catholics and Evangelicals. Of course, her cult likely thinks that they're "deplorables". It's too bad that they didn't insult a minority group in their revealed emails.

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14 hours ago, docyabut2 said:

Oh and lets not forget, Obama is letting out 20%  of the prison population ,to go back to their communities with no jobs, more crime,

Hillary wants to bring in 65 thousand refugees.and we don`t know who these people really are, more terrorists attacks

 Australia,  may go

Clinton admits that they aren't fully vetted. Oh, well. Let's gamble with the safety and security of Americans. She'll be protected by her media.

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10 hours ago, aztek said:

it will not matter to me 1 bit, trump, hilary or anyone else, my life will go the same way it did before.

It *should* matter to you. It may or may not affect *your* life. It will affect other Americans' lives, though. That should count as a remedy for apathy.

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3 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

I'm going to respond to this one before finishing the entire thread.  But it's not the background checks that is the issue.  It's the requirements of who gets placed on the various watch lists.  In time the criteria will broaden more and more, adding more people to the lists.  The Ruling Elite will take our guns via administrative means.  very slowly so no one will notice until it is too late.

Ah yes, the slippery slope argument.

Fair enough. But when one of your regular mass shootings occurs the argument from pro-gun people on here is that guns are not the problem. People are. Mental illness is. If that's the case than more stringent regulations to keep firearms out of the hands of the wrong people can only be a good thing, right?

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8 hours ago, Ashotep said:

Let's pray to god, cross our fingers, throw salt over our shoulders, rub that rabbits foot and hope Clinton never becomes president.  She is a globalist, open borders, bring on the refugees we can't vet zealot.  She can't stand ordinary Americans, she has one opinion for us ordinary Americans and another for her Wall Street backers.  They want more H1-B visas and she will give it to them no matter how much more it will hurt the middle class. 

Your post should be required as a disclaimer to the media's regular misinformation by omission. Readers and viewers could read it after the news outlets "forget" to mention Clinton's misdeeds and mistakes. Of course, her cultists couldn't care less about the danger that she presents to our country. Their fav' celebrities like her.

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3 minutes ago, Arbenol said:

Ah yes, the slippery slope argument.

Fair enough. But when one of your regular mass shootings occurs the argument from pro-gun people on here is that guns are not the problem. People are. Mental illness is. If that's the case than more stringent regulations to keep firearms out of the hands of the wrong people can only be a good thing, right?

 

The problem with casually tossing the slippery slope argument aside is that you only find out you were wrong - at the BOTTOM of the slope. Unless one believes that pro- gun Americans actually desire mentally unstable people to have weapons then I'm not sure of your point.  Who decides which citizens are rejected for gun ownership?  What are the criteria?  To give you an example of the kind of creeping, grasping attempts the Left attempt, Obama recently decided that if a person was found by the social security administration to be incapable of handling their income, they should have all their guns confiscated and have no right to own new ones.  It's only a short hop down that road until some concerned bureaucrat decides that people being treated for depression will be safer without firearms in their homes.  No thank you. I don't care if Ozzies, Kiwis or Brits think we need adult supervision of our RIGHTS.  Molon Labe!

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5 hours ago, F3SS said:

Trump was elected to his current position against all odds and every power that be on The Hill. So we know how he got there. Well we also know how Hillary got where she is today. The DNC had a concerted effort to derail Bernie Sanders campaign, give him no attention and not help. She's been preselected since 2008 because damnit it's her turn to be president and damnit it's time we have a woman in the White House. The deck has been literally stacked in her favor since the beginning. I haven;t seen them yet but according to a quick bit I heard on the radio on the way home today's wikileaks drop show proof of collusion between her and all the big media. No journalism or impartiality. Her interviews are scripted, she's been given a heads up on debate questions and even had the power of veto against debate questions she didn't like. W.T.F.?!?!?!? Point is, we've been given little choice regarding her candidacy. 

There was no coverage or reporting on the explosive leaks by her media supporters and surrogates. Try this experiment. Replace Clinton with Trump in this situation. There would be no end to the media gleefully mentioning Assange's "heroic" revelatory leaks that saved us from Trump's "tyranny".

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2 minutes ago, Paranormal Panther said:

There was no coverage or reporting on the explosive leaks by her media supporters and surrogates. Try this experiment. Replace Clinton with Trump in this situation. There would be no end to the media gleefully mentioning Assange's "heroic" revelatory leaks that saved us from Trump's "tyranny".

It truly is disheartening what's going on here but how can there be any reporting when the media would have to chastise itself since they're completely in on it. Collusion it is. It's absolutely nuts. Even though we always knew this it's always a lot crazier when you find out you're right. Trump really needs to find a way to drive this home and figure out a way to make people realize the weight of this corruption. He ought to just steal the mic on the next debate right from the start and deliver a long and clear message about this. It's his last stand and he's going to be seriously under attack as it's her last stand too.

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4 hours ago, hacktorp said:

Voters should keep in mind the sad reality that the largest donor to both the Clinton Foundation as well as Hillary's campaign is none other than the world's number one state sponsor of terrorism: The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Not only has this vile regime long been fingered as one of the architects behind the 911 attacks (for which they are currently being sued), they are today conducting a horrific war against the people of Yemen in which Saudi Arabia is committing the very war crimes being falsely attributed to Russia and Syria in Aleppo...using weaponry purchased from US sources in deals brokered by the Clinton Foundation.  The hysteria over Aleppo is a smokescreen intended to divert attention away from the atrocities in Yemen.  Saudi Arabia is also a major player behind the rise of ISIS which ALSO uses weapons gained from US sources in Clinton Foundation brokered deals.  Is the picture getting clearer?

A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to continue the slaughter in the Middle East, North Africa, and Ukraine and keep US taxpayers under the yoke of criminal, foreign regimes who gladly pay the Clinton's for selling out US foreign policy.

Thank you! This may be the most important post in this thread, and the lack of media coverage and reporting on it is extremely depressing and distressing. It seems like our journalists come from Bizarro World when the facts, in your post, aren't on the fronts of all newspapers from coast to coast, as well as the first news bits by all alphabet anchormen. By the way, Qatar supports ISIS too.

[Thorvir]

24 minutes ago, and then said:

Obama recently decided that if a person was found by the social security administration to be incapable of handling their income, they should have all their guns confiscated and have no right to own new ones.  It's only a short hop down that road until some concerned bureaucrat decides that people being treated for depression will be safer without firearms in their homes.  No thank you. I don't care if Ozzies, Kiwis or Brits think we need adult supervision of our RIGHTS.  Molon Labe!

Or how about someone disabled and suffering from severe Meniere's Disease that isn't supposed to drive and is prone to having episodes of vertigo?  See, that's me.  And if "they" decide that my condition warrants me to give up my firearms....Molon Labe indeed.

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1 hour ago, RavenHawk said:

The frenzy will occur before that.  Obama will step in and declare martial law and suspend the elections on the pretense that Russia is hacking the election.  This is from the one that tried hacking the Israeli elections.

Haven't they been saying something like that since the days of Reagan or Bush I? Clinton never declared martial law. Bush II never declared martial law. Nothing would surprise me, though.

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1 hour ago, and then said:

For some people, it is not permissible to mention the possibility of violence even when it is a logical conclusion, given the arc of the events that are unfolding.  It's also another example of holding a person responsible for events when all they've done is predict them.  I guess some are just too gentle to live outside the hothouse.  

I'm glad that my smelling salts and swooning couch were nearby. Your post gave me the vapors. It should have had a trigger warning. I need my safe space *now*!

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1 hour ago, and then said:

His presidency has had one positive effect, in my opinion.  He has caused those in DC on the so-called Right to be unmasked as the rank cowards and hypocrites they are.  Time and again they have refused to challenge Obama or even force him to veto legislation they might have passed to state their principles.  They are totally gutless and selfish.

It's sickening. They care more about manners and optics than right and wrong. Let's mind our etiquette while we plan our wars. I'd rather have a boor in the White House if said boor will stop endless wars.